Am i going crazy?

  On 10/25/2012 at 12:04 PM, ussr said:

Might be a mild amphetamine psychosis triggered by you suddenly stopping the adderall.

Personally I'd look for councelling, the psychosis will pass (if that is the case) but the anxiety attacks might not go away by themselves.

Just out of curiosity; was the adderall self prescribed?

no, i've been prescribed adderall by every doctor i've visited since age 13. (although i only started taking it last year at the age of 22)

An easy cheat for this is to hold your hands in weird positions for extended periods until the lines change shape. You could meditate while you're waiting around for this to happen but it doesn't really matter because you'll have fixed the lines anyway.

  On 10/25/2012 at 12:09 PM, YO303 said:

  On 10/25/2012 at 12:04 PM, ussr said:

Might be a mild amphetamine psychosis triggered by you suddenly stopping the adderall.

Personally I'd look for councelling, the psychosis will pass (if that is the case) but the anxiety attacks might not go away by themselves.

Just out of curiosity; was the adderall self prescribed?

 

no, i've been prescribed adderall by every doctor i've visited since age 13.

disgraceful imo. get off that shit mate. everybody in the world is "weird" or has little quirks or obsessions etc. insane people who are clearly insane might need drugs. might. prescribing fucking speed to kids who are basically completely normal, with completely normal issues that most kids have, is unbelievable. fucking doctors man, fucking big pharma, fucking big business. fuck all of it.

  On 10/25/2012 at 3:02 AM, jules said:

do you drink a lot of coffee too?

Man, I need some coffee.

  On 10/25/2012 at 2:00 AM, YO303 said:

About a few weeks ago i started obsessing over the lines in my palms (specially the life line)

Yep Palmistry is balls - means nothing.

kundalini yoga or exercise

I prescribe the following:

Have a really good nights sleep, get up around noon or around then, later is good too. Take a tab of lsd under your tongue and embark on a nice long walk/bike ride in the countryside/woods. Remember to bring water, fruit and other desired snacks. Mobile phone, notepad for jotting stuff down/drawing. And naturally an mp3 player stacked with good tuneage.

Will without a doubt set all these things about lifelines on your palms in perspective when you're forced to negotiate forest terrain with everything wobbling and shimmering like a great undulating primordial metropolis made of wood & leaves & mush and you're up for the fucking challenge like the first cavemen bouncing around them woods with the scents and symbiotic sounds of near and far dripping and squelching of small creatures in the undergrowth. And the lights oh the lights.

bon voyage my friend

yeah, don't do acid...

Usually when you are asking the question, "Am I going crazy?", the answer tends to be yes.

  On 10/25/2012 at 6:02 PM, BCM said:

yeah, don't do acid...

seriously, that is the worst advice. do not take acid, shrooms, or even weed in high doses until you are feeling more stable again. it will not help at all.

  On 10/25/2012 at 6:14 PM, ganus said:

  On 10/25/2012 at 6:02 PM, BCM said:

yeah, don't do acid...

seriously, that is the worst advice. do not take acid, shrooms, or even weed in high doses until you are feeling more stable again. it will not help at all.

Yeah, don't even think about touching acid or shrooms right now. Unless you want to have an actual psychotic break and feel dread unlike any dread you've ever known.

I took adderall, meth, and ecstasy quite regularly for around a year and it took me about a year of being off it to feel "normal" again if that helps your situation at all. The body seems to be quite good at reverting back to its old state after you stop taking drugs. Discontinuing use of a drug like Adderall after taking it regularly is going to have a lot of effects on your dopamine and serotonin levels until your body normalizes.

  On 10/25/2012 at 6:59 PM, baph said:

  On 10/25/2012 at 6:14 PM, ganus said:

  On 10/25/2012 at 6:02 PM, BCM said:

yeah, don't do acid...

seriously, that is the worst advice. do not take acid, shrooms, or even weed in high doses until you are feeling more stable again. it will not help at all.

 

Yeah, don't even think about touching acid or shrooms right now. Unless you want to have an actual psychotic break and feel dread unlike any dread you've ever known.

Sounds like someone had a bad trip?

I don't dispute this happening, but even if you do have a bad trip, you inevitably come back down and the important thing is (be it a good or bad trip) is that you've been jolted out of your mental rut.

It's fucking cleansing.

If you're a bit nutty anyway (like me) and perhaps the OP, then a bad trip now and then it's peanuts. And worth it just for the mind cleansing qualities it obviously has.

Another thing that cannot be stressed enough when you're feeling down is EXERCISE, FRESH AIR. And if you can handle it a FUCKING ICE COLD SHOWER.

Keeping your mind occupied with a good book, series of films or something to that effect. Have a routine every day of getting up reasonably early, eat a good hearty breakfast, exercise body and mind.

YO303,

My advice is that you go to see your doc and tell him the specifics. There are a number of things that could be going on here which are not life-threatening but could be easily helped by the right diagnosis/prescription (cbt therapy is considered a prescription for example).

I'm not sure of the time-line of all this but if you stopped taking the adderall BEFORE the paranoid feelings/obsessions with life line then there's a great chance that what you're experiencing is withdrawal symptoms. If they started happening BEFORE then you may have a secondary issue that needs to be resolved OR the adderall is too much or too little.

If you're dealing with recurring panic attacks I suggest you see a doc as soon as you can because there are certain concepts you need to learn so that you can deal with these attackss PROPERLY before too many silly cognitions (beliefs, interpretations, assumptions, etc) get reinforced.

  On 10/25/2012 at 6:06 PM, AdieuErsatzEnnui said:

Usually when you are asking the question, "Am I going crazy?", the answer tends to be yes.

what he said but in reverse. people usually aren't aware they're going 'crazy' and/or are insane in the membrane.

you're aware something's not quite right therefore you're not crazy and you'll be fine (as much as any 23 year old can be these days).

Do not take psychedelics if you have anxiety issues. A friend of mine used to be a pretty normal extrovert guy with minor anxiety problems. After a trip he became extremely anxious for about a year and is still not fully recovered. He shut himself down completely, was unable to do or decide anything and seemed to be on the verge of total panic for ages.

  On 10/25/2012 at 10:35 PM, Ego said:

Do not take psychedelics if you have anxiety issues. A friend of mine used to be a pretty normal extrovert guy with minor anxiety problems. After a trip he became extremely anxious for about a year and is still not fully recovered. He shut himself down completely, was unable to do or decide anything and seemed to be on the verge of total panic for ages.

things like this happen when people have problems/things they're worried about, unresolved issues and/or guilt for some reason/s.

anxiety itself is usually the result of some sort of trauma and/or stress. people aren't just anxious or worried for no reason.

it's not the fault of the drugs but the fault of/in the person and/or persons they're taking the drug with, and the setting/situation they're taking the drug in. innit.

Fuck, doesn't everyone have unresolved issues/guilt etc?

The point is (and depending on your goals in life) you can either go down the therapist/doctor/prescribed meds road and put your trust in all of that. Or you can attempt to sort out your problems by yourself. The latter could include good healthy benders on psychoactives that will enable you to see your own problems in a new light and this will ordinarily give you a huge amount of clarity on subjects that have been clouded and boosted out of all proportion by a long running negative state of mind and depression like tendencies.

However it could also affect you negatively. It's a bit of a gamble, but so is the first choice. At least with the latter choice, you are empowered by the fact that you alone have attempted to solve the problems which after all are inside your own head and ultimately you're the only one who can 100% solve.

  On 10/25/2012 at 11:42 PM, AJW said:

Fuck, doesn't everyone have unresolved issues/guilt etc?

no not everybody does.

and people deal with things in different ways. one person might not be effected by one thing as much as another person might be. and a lot of people don't have any conscience at all.

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The point is (and depending on your goals in life) you can either go down the therapist/doctor/prescribed meds road and put your trust in all of that. Or you can attempt to sort out your problems by yourself. The latter could include good healthy benders on psychoactives that will enable you to see your own problems in a new light and this will ordinarily give you a huge amount of clarity on subjects that have been clouded and boosted out of all proportion by a long running negative state of mind and depression like tendencies.

However it could also affect you negatively. It's a bit of a gamble, but so is the first choice. At least with the latter choice, you are empowered by the fact that you alone have attempted to solve the problems which after all are inside your own head and ultimately you're the only one who can 100% solve.

of course.

but still, basically, it's probably best to avoid stronger things like LSD/shrooms if you're not feeling too great. unless that's your whole point/reason for doing it, like you say above. but you then also run the risk of making things a million times worse, too, as the other guy said about his friend.

anyhoo, drugs are bad, m'kay... sort your shit out then you can take all the drugs in world :) ..and then develop more shit...

2 cents.

  On 10/25/2012 at 10:31 PM, Franklin said:

YO303,

 

My advice is that you go to see your doc and tell him the specifics. There are a number of things that could be going on here which are not life-threatening but could be easily helped by the right diagnosis/prescription (cbt therapy is considered a prescription for example).

 

I'm not sure of the time-line of all this but if you stopped taking the adderall BEFORE the paranoid feelings/obsessions with life line then there's a great chance that what you're experiencing is withdrawal symptoms. If they started happening BEFORE then you may have a secondary issue that needs to be resolved OR the adderall is too much or too little.

 

If you're dealing with recurring panic attacks I suggest you see a doc as soon as you can because there are certain concepts you need to learn so that you can deal with these attackss PROPERLY before too many silly cognitions (beliefs, interpretations, assumptions, etc) get reinforced.

best possible advice.

  On 10/25/2012 at 11:42 PM, AJW said:

Fuck, doesn't everyone have unresolved issues/guilt etc?

 

The point is (and depending on your goals in life) you can either go down the therapist/doctor/prescribed meds road and put your trust in all of that. Or you can attempt to sort out your problems by yourself. The latter could include good healthy benders on psychoactives that will enable you to see your own problems in a new light and this will ordinarily give you a huge amount of clarity on subjects that have been clouded and boosted out of all proportion by a long running negative state of mind and depression like tendencies.

However it could also affect you negatively. It's a bit of a gamble, but so is the first choice. At least with the latter choice, you are empowered by the fact that you alone have attempted to solve the problems which after all are inside your own head and ultimately you're the only one who can 100% solve.

nonsense. physically and mentally impossible to cure your personal ills 100% on your own. There are always cultural, societal, pressure inputs on hundreds of levels.

trying a little bit of both options to determine which is best, or using the two interchangeably is certainly a possibility.

How lucky,

I wish I could live as it was the last day every day!

I guess you're crazy in a good sense if that makes any sense.

  On 10/26/2012 at 12:25 AM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said:

 

  On 10/25/2012 at 11:42 PM, AJW said:

Fuck, doesn't everyone have unresolved issues/guilt etc?

 

The point is (and depending on your goals in life) you can either go down the therapist/doctor/prescribed meds road and put your trust in all of that. Or you can attempt to sort out your problems by yourself. The latter could include good healthy benders on psychoactives that will enable you to see your own problems in a new light and this will ordinarily give you a huge amount of clarity on subjects that have been clouded and boosted out of all proportion by a long running negative state of mind and depression like tendencies.

However it could also affect you negatively. It's a bit of a gamble, but so is the first choice. At least with the latter choice, you are empowered by the fact that you alone have attempted to solve the problems which after all are inside your own head and ultimately you're the only one who can 100% solve.

 

nonsense. physically and mentally impossible to cure your personal ills 100% on your own.

 

I don't think you understood exactly what he was saying.

  On 10/26/2012 at 12:25 AM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said:

  On 10/25/2012 at 10:31 PM, Franklin said:

YO303,

 

My advice is that you go to see your doc and tell him the specifics. There are a number of things that could be going on here which are not life-threatening but could be easily helped by the right diagnosis/prescription (cbt therapy is considered a prescription for example).

 

I'm not sure of the time-line of all this but if you stopped taking the adderall BEFORE the paranoid feelings/obsessions with life line then there's a great chance that what you're experiencing is withdrawal symptoms. If they started happening BEFORE then you may have a secondary issue that needs to be resolved OR the adderall is too much or too little.

 

If you're dealing with recurring panic attacks I suggest you see a doc as soon as you can because there are certain concepts you need to learn so that you can deal with these attackss PROPERLY before too many silly cognitions (beliefs, interpretations, assumptions, etc) get reinforced.

 

best possible advice.

 

  On 10/25/2012 at 11:42 PM, AJW said:

Fuck, doesn't everyone have unresolved issues/guilt etc?

 

The point is (and depending on your goals in life) you can either go down the therapist/doctor/prescribed meds road and put your trust in all of that. Or you can attempt to sort out your problems by yourself. The latter could include good healthy benders on psychoactives that will enable you to see your own problems in a new light and this will ordinarily give you a huge amount of clarity on subjects that have been clouded and boosted out of all proportion by a long running negative state of mind and depression like tendencies.

However it could also affect you negatively. It's a bit of a gamble, but so is the first choice. At least with the latter choice, you are empowered by the fact that you alone have attempted to solve the problems which after all are inside your own head and ultimately you're the only one who can 100% solve.

 

nonsense. physically and mentally impossible to cure your personal ills 100% on your own. There are always cultural, societal, pressure inputs on hundreds of levels.

 

trying a little bit of both options to determine which is best, or using the two interchangeably is certainly a possibility.

The fact that there are outside influences goes without saying I don't even understand why you bring that to the discussion. What do the outside influences have to do with not being able to cure yourself (mentally)