Guest nene multiple assgasms Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 why do people talk about "anonymous" as is if it's an actual group? it's just a label. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76378-anonymous-is-on-hacking-spree-paypal-and-symantec-already-hacked/page/2/#findComment-1900166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke viia Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 (edited) cos people hack shit and say "We are anonymous" that strategy is going to shoot "them" in the foot sooner than later imo, but whatever. if the word anonymous keeps getting thrown around every time someone hacks something and wants to be recognized for it, the "group" is just going to continue to make more and more enemies, and eventually just claiming you're from the group "anonymous" will probably be enough to get you in trouble (as you'd basically be saying "yeah I'm part of that group with a criminal record" instead of just hacking some shit and laying low... you know, the not-an-angsty-nihilist-idiot way of doing things) Edited November 5, 2012 by luke viia Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide luke viia's signature Hide all signatures GHOST: have you killed Claudius yet HAMLET: no GHOST: why HAMLET: fuck you is why im going to the cemetery to touch skulls [planet of dinosaurs - the album [bc] [archive]] Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76378-anonymous-is-on-hacking-spree-paypal-and-symantec-already-hacked/page/2/#findComment-1900169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) Anonymous will help prevent America from turning (further) into a Police State. They're not perfect but they're a good thing to have in a world with such insane and powerful governments and corporations. Edited November 6, 2012 by LimpyLoo Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76378-anonymous-is-on-hacking-spree-paypal-and-symantec-already-hacked/page/2/#findComment-1900204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke viia Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) imo they might just give the US govt a reason to move into a police state quicker, but i see what you're saying. to me it just seems counter-productive to have a "group-mask" to wear when you want to steal/hack/comandeer/whatever, you know? it's as if a big group of vigilante bank robbers all shared the same nixon mask for their robberies. pretty soon the mask itself (saying "We are legion" or whatever) is just a giveaway that you're part of a group that has committed criminal activities in the past. smart law-breakers don't do that, gnome sane which is why people claiming to be Anonymous can be assumed to be petty criminals having very little forethought Edited November 6, 2012 by luke viia Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide luke viia's signature Hide all signatures GHOST: have you killed Claudius yet HAMLET: no GHOST: why HAMLET: fuck you is why im going to the cemetery to touch skulls [planet of dinosaurs - the album [bc] [archive]] Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76378-anonymous-is-on-hacking-spree-paypal-and-symantec-already-hacked/page/2/#findComment-1900215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest isaki Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 in no way will anonymous help anything. sure, reveal the name of a bully; a cat killer etc. hooray, justice is served but that will not affect a country or ANYTHING at that scale. once it's done, it's forgotten. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76378-anonymous-is-on-hacking-spree-paypal-and-symantec-already-hacked/page/2/#findComment-1900216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skotosa Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 The glory of this is if peoples money do get taken they can create disputes with paypal. Then paypal can fall under! Wait is paypal bad? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide skotosa's signature Hide all signatures Artist Name: SkiaSoundcloud http://www.last.fm/user/skotosa Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76378-anonymous-is-on-hacking-spree-paypal-and-symantec-already-hacked/page/2/#findComment-1900218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YO303 Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 If someone empties my bank account because of this i'm gonna loose my shit. What is the point of exposing the credit card numbers of innocent people? why aren't these fucks hacking the computer of pedophile politicians or something. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76378-anonymous-is-on-hacking-spree-paypal-and-symantec-already-hacked/page/2/#findComment-1900222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd syside Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) On 11/6/2012 at 12:32 AM, ZiggomaticV17 said: The glory of this is if peoples money do get taken they can create disputes with paypal. Then paypal can fall under! Wait is paypal bad? Yes Paypal stopped allowing donation payments to wikileaks. It is also their responsibility to keep their account secure. Edited November 6, 2012 by compson Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide syd syside's signature Hide all signatures " Last law bearing means that any reformer or Prophet will be a subordinate of the Holy Prophet (saw) and no new Messenger and Prophet with a new religion, book or decree will come after him. Everything from him will be under the banner of Islam only." Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76378-anonymous-is-on-hacking-spree-paypal-and-symantec-already-hacked/page/2/#findComment-1900223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 *groan On 11/6/2012 at 12:42 AM, YO303 said: If someone empties my bank account because of this i'm gonna loose my shit. What is the point of exposing the credit card numbers of innocent people? why aren't these fucks hacking the computer of pedophile politicians or something. Once again, I highly doubt Anonymous did this. Anonymous leans a bit more towards the off-white, hat color-wise. Exposing police corruption, for instance. Public services that people in this thread either haven't heard about or don't appreciate the value of. * Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76378-anonymous-is-on-hacking-spree-paypal-and-symantec-already-hacked/page/2/#findComment-1900227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 On 11/6/2012 at 12:55 AM, LimpyLoo said: Public services that people in this thread either haven't heard about or don't appreciate the value of. * Please, do tell. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide SR4's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76378-anonymous-is-on-hacking-spree-paypal-and-symantec-already-hacked/page/2/#findComment-1900231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest isaki Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 On 11/6/2012 at 1:10 AM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said: On 11/6/2012 at 12:55 AM, LimpyLoo said: Public services that people in this thread either haven't heard about or don't appreciate the value of. * Please, do tell. also... when you refer to anonymous, who IS that? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76378-anonymous-is-on-hacking-spree-paypal-and-symantec-already-hacked/page/2/#findComment-1900235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechDiff Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 Yeah doesn't seem particularly Anonymous ish at all. Crashing PayPal is plausable, Leaking passwords doubtful. Something about second wave and blah blah, warped understanding and intentions, irresponsible and misguided. Boff. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide TechDiff's signature Hide all signatures My new album on Ad Noiseam 05/11/2012 http://www.adnoiseam.net/adn151 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76378-anonymous-is-on-hacking-spree-paypal-and-symantec-already-hacked/page/2/#findComment-1900237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 On 11/6/2012 at 1:19 AM, isaki said: On 11/6/2012 at 1:10 AM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said: On 11/6/2012 at 12:55 AM, LimpyLoo said: Public services that people in this thread either haven't heard about or don't appreciate the value of. * Please, do tell. also... when you refer to anonymous, who IS that? the guys that put up youtube videos with v for vendetta masks saying "We Are Anonymous". Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide SR4's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76378-anonymous-is-on-hacking-spree-paypal-and-symantec-already-hacked/page/2/#findComment-1900241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechDiff Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 On 11/6/2012 at 1:19 AM, isaki said: On 11/6/2012 at 1:10 AM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said: On 11/6/2012 at 12:55 AM, LimpyLoo said: Public services that people in this thread either haven't heard about or don't appreciate the value of. * Please, do tell. also... when you refer to anonymous, who IS that? I was under the impression that it stems from being able to login to forums like the b board as an anonymous user, free to act however you wanted without any judgment thanks to the 'safety' of anonymity. I would imagine that some people have chosen to extend that attitude into other undertakings. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide TechDiff's signature Hide all signatures My new album on Ad Noiseam 05/11/2012 http://www.adnoiseam.net/adn151 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76378-anonymous-is-on-hacking-spree-paypal-and-symantec-already-hacked/page/2/#findComment-1900247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 On 11/6/2012 at 1:10 AM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said: On 11/6/2012 at 12:55 AM, LimpyLoo said: Public services that people in this thread either haven't heard about or don't appreciate the value of. * Please, do tell. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=anonymous+hacks+police+retaliation Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76378-anonymous-is-on-hacking-spree-paypal-and-symantec-already-hacked/page/2/#findComment-1900251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd syside Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 The liability is on Paypal... they can keep their shit secure, just takes money. It's akln to a Bank not having a workable lock on their safe or some shit because they wanted to save costs. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide syd syside's signature Hide all signatures " Last law bearing means that any reformer or Prophet will be a subordinate of the Holy Prophet (saw) and no new Messenger and Prophet with a new religion, book or decree will come after him. Everything from him will be under the banner of Islam only." Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76378-anonymous-is-on-hacking-spree-paypal-and-symantec-already-hacked/page/2/#findComment-1900254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RadarJammer Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 Whenever I think of Anonymous I think of Scientology. They have done a lot of good fighting the good fight and bringing public awareness. That's also when the mask wearing makes sense not only because it sends a message but because those church members like to collect the identities of people who cause them trouble. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76378-anonymous-is-on-hacking-spree-paypal-and-symantec-already-hacked/page/2/#findComment-1900263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 On 11/6/2012 at 1:59 AM, RadarJammer said: Whenever I think of Anonymous I think of Scientology. They have done a lot of good fighting the good fight and bringing public awareness. That's also when the mask wearing makes sense not only because it sends a message but because those church members like to collect the identities of people who cause them trouble. huh? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76378-anonymous-is-on-hacking-spree-paypal-and-symantec-already-hacked/page/2/#findComment-1900264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 On 11/6/2012 at 2:00 AM, LimpyLoo said: On 11/6/2012 at 1:59 AM, RadarJammer said: Whenever I think of Anonymous I think of Scientology. They have done a lot of good fighting the good fight and bringing public awareness. That's also when the mask wearing makes sense not only because it sends a message but because those church members like to collect the identities of people who cause them trouble. huh? oh, the scientology Anonymous must be different from the paypal Anonymous Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide SR4's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76378-anonymous-is-on-hacking-spree-paypal-and-symantec-already-hacked/page/2/#findComment-1900265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RadarJammer Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 On 11/6/2012 at 2:00 AM, LimpyLoo said: On 11/6/2012 at 1:59 AM, RadarJammer said: Whenever I think of Anonymous I think of Scientology. They have done a lot of good fighting the good fight and bringing public awareness. That's also when the mask wearing makes sense not only because it sends a message but because those church members like to collect the identities of people who cause them trouble. huh? https://whyweprotest.net/anonymous-scientology/ Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76378-anonymous-is-on-hacking-spree-paypal-and-symantec-already-hacked/page/2/#findComment-1900266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest isaki Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) On 11/6/2012 at 1:47 AM, LimpyLoo said: On 11/6/2012 at 1:10 AM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said: On 11/6/2012 at 12:55 AM, LimpyLoo said: Public services that people in this thread either haven't heard about or don't appreciate the value of. * Please, do tell. http://lmgtfy.com/?q...ice retaliation firstly, no need to be an asshole about it, you could've just linked us to an article secondly, how is "gaining access to 'sensitive data, including citizen complaints about drug crimes, including phone numbers, addresses and other personal information,' & defacing a website... a public service? a helpful one at that? . Edited November 6, 2012 by isaki Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76378-anonymous-is-on-hacking-spree-paypal-and-symantec-already-hacked/page/2/#findComment-1900270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechDiff Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 On 11/6/2012 at 2:10 AM, isaki said: On 11/6/2012 at 1:47 AM, LimpyLoo said: On 11/6/2012 at 1:10 AM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said: On 11/6/2012 at 12:55 AM, LimpyLoo said: Public services that people in this thread either haven't heard about or don't appreciate the value of. * Please, do tell. http://lmgtfy.com/?q...ice retaliation firstly, no need to be an asshole about it, you could've just linked us to an article secondly, how is "gaining access to 'sensitive data, including citizen complaints about drug crimes, including phone numbers, addresses and other personal information,' & defacing a website... a public service? a helpful one at that? . I try to not sit on either side of the fence with this kinda stuff, but this quote needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. "Gaining access to" is very different from "publishing information on". Although an individual may be logged in to a network which hosts "sensitive data" that doesn't mean very much. Afaik, in these kinda incidents the most that has been actually published is stuff like names of misbehaving police officers, email discussions illustrating illegal law practices etc. it's like saying the bank robber was in a building containing millions of moneys, even if all they stole was a pen on a chain. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide TechDiff's signature Hide all signatures My new album on Ad Noiseam 05/11/2012 http://www.adnoiseam.net/adn151 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76378-anonymous-is-on-hacking-spree-paypal-and-symantec-already-hacked/page/2/#findComment-1900276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest isaki Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) my point still stands, it's not helping anybody whether they published the info or not Edited November 6, 2012 by isaki Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76378-anonymous-is-on-hacking-spree-paypal-and-symantec-already-hacked/page/2/#findComment-1900278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd syside Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) On 11/6/2012 at 2:24 AM, isaki said: my point still stands, it's not helping anybody whether they published the info or not if they didnt publish the info then it at least gives paypal info on future security measures they should look at to prevent it from happening again in worse hands. Edited November 6, 2012 by compson Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide syd syside's signature Hide all signatures " Last law bearing means that any reformer or Prophet will be a subordinate of the Holy Prophet (saw) and no new Messenger and Prophet with a new religion, book or decree will come after him. Everything from him will be under the banner of Islam only." Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76378-anonymous-is-on-hacking-spree-paypal-and-symantec-already-hacked/page/2/#findComment-1900279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest isaki Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) yes, true - but again, it isn't a public service as loopy is making it out to be. they aren't hacking anybody as a way of saying "here's the way in, now patch that hole up" they're just morons Edited November 6, 2012 by isaki Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76378-anonymous-is-on-hacking-spree-paypal-and-symantec-already-hacked/page/2/#findComment-1900281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts