YO303 Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 I don't consider black metal or that satanic ambient evil because they were made by wannabes, the music is not actually evil is just a cartoonish version of what these hacks would consider evil. I can't think of good examples of true evil music but i would consider those old folk songs by Charles Manson evil because it was made by a truly disturbed person and the music was used to brainwashed his followers (which he used to perform true acts of evil) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx2sxBobp14 It doesn't sound like the cartoonish evil music you guys are posting but its aura is more evil than any of those songs. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77188-show-me-the-most-evil-piece-of-music-youve-been-acquainted-to/page/2/#findComment-1931012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chim Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9N2lMZGrtV8 YO303 said: I don't consider black metal or that satanic ambient evil because they were made by wannabes lol. scandinavia would like a word with you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0YCcuPtVq0 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77188-show-me-the-most-evil-piece-of-music-youve-been-acquainted-to/page/2/#findComment-1931019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YO303 Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) Yeah but those guys aren't actually evil (for the most part, i think burzum killed a person hes probably an evil guy), they just like to dress/act like the cartoon version of what society thinks is evil, they just want to be different and choose a style that would make them look different in the eyes of the general public. Music that sounds like that or guys that wear make up and change their names to something stupid like Van Count Drakulas doesn't scare me, it doesn't disturbe me, it looks pretty stupid and unauthentic. Edited January 14, 2013 by YO303 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77188-show-me-the-most-evil-piece-of-music-youve-been-acquainted-to/page/2/#findComment-1931028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
geosmina Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 black metal fuckers are indeed evil dude Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide geosmina's signature Hide all signatures https://animanoir.xyz/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77188-show-me-the-most-evil-piece-of-music-youve-been-acquainted-to/page/2/#findComment-1931030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 On 1/13/2013 at 8:45 PM, logakght said: you should try New Risen Throne. You will love it. I will check that out asap. On 1/14/2013 at 1:03 AM, YO303 said: I don't consider black metal or that satanic ambient evil because they were made by wannabes, the music is not actually evil is just a cartoonish version of what these hacks would consider evil. I can't think of good examples of true evil music but i would consider those old folk songs by Charles Manson evil because it was made by a truly disturbed person and the music was used to brainwashed his followers (which he used to perform true acts of evil) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx2sxBobp14 It doesn't sound like the cartoonish evil music you guys are posting but its aura is more evil than any of those songs. Good point. Most music made by truly fucked-up individuals is usually just creepy, sometimes flat-out silly (G.G. Allin, El Duce of the Mentors). Personally I find good black metal to be what it is intended to be: individualistic and anti-authoritarian. Some BM just don't appeal to me because they are ironically cookie-cutter in sound and style. There's a lot of resentment and dismissal between artists in those scenes, and I find that the better ones have branched out or stuck to their own sound - Darkthrone makes crustpunk and speed metal now, Ulver went from lo-fi black metal to a variety of styles, and in an interview last year Xasthur said he was listening to Kansas and Sia and finding that more inspiring than most BM. As for dark ambient and drone and such, I think the better examples are truly eerie and even frightening Lustmord is known to sample slaughterhouses, tombs, catacombs, etc. Such music isn't inherently evil of course, especially considering those artists are not only sane but simply skilled and talented producers. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide joshuatxuk's signature Hide all signatures Tape Escape! Aural Canyon Wood Between Worlds Tapes [joshuatxuk-is-dead] Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77188-show-me-the-most-evil-piece-of-music-youve-been-acquainted-to/page/2/#findComment-1931031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghOsty Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) On 1/14/2013 at 1:55 AM, YO303 said: Yeah but those guys aren't actually evil (for the most part, i think burzum killed a person hes probably an evil guy), they just like to dress/act like the cartoon version of what society thinks is evil, they just want to be different and choose a style that would make them look different in the eyes of the general public. Music that sounds like that or guys that wear make up and change their names to something stupid like Van Count Drakulas doesn't scare me, it doesn't disturbe me, it looks pretty stupid and unauthentic. I get what you're saying, I think the question to ask is, is something that's dark or "brutal" necessarily "evil"? I know a lot of metal bands that are really fucking heavvy, but when you think about it overall they aren't really that dark or evil and the one's that are are mostly just an act. This track for example, heavy as fuck, and the content is pretty damn brutal, but it doesn't necessarily strike me as "evil" because it seems to be just an act playing on the disgusting nature of the imagery and not a genuine desire to mutilate stillborn fetuses. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDpCkIAG4Oc Edited January 14, 2013 by ghOsty Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ghOsty's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77188-show-me-the-most-evil-piece-of-music-youve-been-acquainted-to/page/2/#findComment-1931034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
geosmina Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 http://www.doseofmetal.com/2010/11/pain-is-inspiration-a-shining-view-on-black-metal/ Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide geosmina's signature Hide all signatures https://animanoir.xyz/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77188-show-me-the-most-evil-piece-of-music-youve-been-acquainted-to/page/2/#findComment-1931035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghOsty Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) On 1/14/2013 at 2:19 AM, logakght said: http://www.doseofmetal.com/2010/11/pain-is-inspiration-a-shining-view-on-black-metal/ even this is not necessarily evil, moreso misguided depression... it's kind of a sad case really when you think about it. (then again perhaps I'm desensitized since I've always prefered darker music) Edited January 14, 2013 by ghOsty Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ghOsty's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77188-show-me-the-most-evil-piece-of-music-youve-been-acquainted-to/page/2/#findComment-1931037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vertsk8er419 Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 for real guise Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide vertsk8er419's signature Hide all signatures youtube • last.fm Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77188-show-me-the-most-evil-piece-of-music-youve-been-acquainted-to/page/2/#findComment-1931065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chim Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 YO303 said: Yeah but those guys aren't actually evil (for the most part, i think burzum killed a person hes probably an evil guy), they just like to dress/act like the cartoon version of what society thinks is evil, they just want to be different and choose a style that would make them look different in the eyes of the general public. Mayhem's singer killed himself (on an underground release of their next album, the cover was a photo they took of his fresh corpse) and the guitarist was killed by burzum. My whole point was that there are crazy fuckers who dress like cartoons. then there's guys like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zikrYNFZblQ Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77188-show-me-the-most-evil-piece-of-music-youve-been-acquainted-to/page/2/#findComment-1931071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
J3FF3R00 Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) On 1/13/2013 at 4:49 PM, RadarJammer said: this demon posessed zombie playing devil music That is going to give me nightmares. On 1/13/2013 at 7:56 PM, StephenG said: I guess not a real competitor to any of the trax already posted..... but I listen to this and correlate it to evil I agree. A lot of Tech Itch is mighty evil. I love it all. I could post a million links, but I won't. One is enough, and yours is a good'un. *edit* I was going to post this one video of his track, Legend (Evol Intent remix), but it contains some graphic, nsfw stuff (mostly pig dissections and cadavers and stuff) that I was afraid would get me warned. It is the one with visuals from a very satanic looking live performance (Therapy Sessions) that either he or Evol Intent or both did in Budapest in 2007. It was lit by candles. If you are curious, you can search it out on youtube. Those black metal bands are indeed evil. I went through a bit of a black metal void period lately. It wasn't good. I was listening to a lot of Xasthur. That guy's energy is bad news. I won't even post any of it. Otherwise... This one gives me a very evil feeling... So does this one... Great thread, btw. Edited January 14, 2013 by jefferoo Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide J3FF3R00's signature Hide all signatures 666 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77188-show-me-the-most-evil-piece-of-music-youve-been-acquainted-to/page/2/#findComment-1931075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
4d0 Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_tFKa2_YBQ that is what evil sounds like Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide 4d0's signature Hide all signatures Support for the government is a Stockholm syndrome. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77188-show-me-the-most-evil-piece-of-music-youve-been-acquainted-to/page/2/#findComment-1931078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
huzur Posted January 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 On 1/13/2013 at 8:34 PM, joshuatx said: http://youtu.be/vUUKTVUDsiM Lustmord is the first dark ambient I ever discovered and is still some of the best out there wow havent come across Lustmord, thank you mr Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77188-show-me-the-most-evil-piece-of-music-youve-been-acquainted-to/page/2/#findComment-1931080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
huzur Posted January 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) I like the plethora of discussions that I stirred over the evilness factor regarding music, but one thing everyone has yet to do, is make a reference to classical music. I summon anyone with knowledge over this particular subject also, i find this relevant: Quote "One night, in the year 1713 I dreamed I had made a pact with the devil for my soul. Everything went as I wished: my new servant anticipated my every desire. Among other things, I gave him my violin to see if he could play. How great was my astonishment on hearing a sonata so wonderful and so beautiful, played with such great art and intelligence, as I had never even conceived in my boldest flights of fantasy. I felt enraptured, transported, enchanted: my breath failed me, and - I awoke. I immediately grasped my violin in order to retain, in part at least, the impression of my dream. In vain! The music which I at this time composed is indeed the best that I ever wrote, and I still call it the "Devil's Trill", but the difference between it and that which so moved me is so great that I would have destroyed my instrument and have said farewell to music forever if it had been possible for me to live without the enjoyment it affords me." Edited January 14, 2013 by huzur Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77188-show-me-the-most-evil-piece-of-music-youve-been-acquainted-to/page/2/#findComment-1931083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghOsty Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 love me some Watain and a classic... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ghOsty's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77188-show-me-the-most-evil-piece-of-music-youve-been-acquainted-to/page/2/#findComment-1931084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
geosmina Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 rdj hated his father Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide geosmina's signature Hide all signatures https://animanoir.xyz/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77188-show-me-the-most-evil-piece-of-music-youve-been-acquainted-to/page/2/#findComment-1931086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) The jonestown death tape, I guess it's not really music per se, but there are some backwards hymns/organ music leaking through from the other side of the tape throughout which really adds to the fuckedupness of it all. If there's anything more evil than that out there I don't want to hear it. Edited January 14, 2013 by Gocab Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Silent Member's signature Hide all signatures Some songs I made with my fingers and electronics. In the process of making some more. Hopefully. Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77188-show-me-the-most-evil-piece-of-music-youve-been-acquainted-to/page/2/#findComment-1931137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeQYcJWNBz Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) On 1/14/2013 at 1:03 AM, YO303 said: I can't think of good examples of true evil music but i would consider those old folk songs by Charles Manson evil because it was made by a truly disturbed person and the music was used to brainwashed his followers (which he used to perform true acts of evil) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx2sxBobp14 It doesn't sound like the cartoonish evil music you guys are posting but its aura is more evil than any of those songs. in the same vein, this song sung by the Manson Family edit: okay, looking at all those top comments at charles manson song videos on youtube, i have got to ask: What the fuck is wrong with people? Edited January 14, 2013 by triachus Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77188-show-me-the-most-evil-piece-of-music-youve-been-acquainted-to/page/2/#findComment-1931139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
4d0 Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 On 1/14/2013 at 10:36 AM, triachus said: edit: okay, looking at all those top comments at charles manson song videos on youtube, i have got to ask: What the fuck is wrong with people? What do you mean? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide 4d0's signature Hide all signatures Support for the government is a Stockholm syndrome. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77188-show-me-the-most-evil-piece-of-music-youve-been-acquainted-to/page/2/#findComment-1931159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghOsty Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 On 1/14/2013 at 10:24 AM, Gocab said: The jonestown death tape, I guess it's not really music per se, but there are some backwards hymns/organ music leaking through from the other side of the tape throughout which really adds to the fuckedupness of it all. If there's anything more evil than that out there I don't want to hear it. Is it bad that I kind of want to hear that? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ghOsty's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77188-show-me-the-most-evil-piece-of-music-youve-been-acquainted-to/page/2/#findComment-1931160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Foil Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 On 1/14/2013 at 1:28 AM, chimera slot mom said: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0YCcuPtVq0 That album is lol. But.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YXUpgmtuJ0 So pretty Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77188-show-me-the-most-evil-piece-of-music-youve-been-acquainted-to/page/2/#findComment-1931173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeQYcJWNBz Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 On 1/14/2013 at 12:49 PM, 4d0lf said: On 1/14/2013 at 10:36 AM, triachus said: edit: okay, looking at all those top comments at charles manson song videos on youtube, i have got to ask: What the fuck is wrong with people? What do you mean? Maybe I overreacted, but I'm just a bit shocked to see the amount of praise/sympathy this man is getting [on youtube/last.fm]... Stuff like "he should be released!" "society is the one to blame!" "he's such a nice guy!" "he looked so handsome/cute!", "good old uncle charlie" etc... At first glance, it feels as if there are still people falling for the charismatic charm of a gruesome, manipulative cult leader, and that thought chills me a bit. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77188-show-me-the-most-evil-piece-of-music-youve-been-acquainted-to/page/2/#findComment-1931177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) <blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="ghOsty" data-cid="1931160" data-time="1358164421"><p> <blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="Gocab" data-cid="1931137" data-time="1358155445"><p>The jonestown death tape, I guess it's not really music per se, but there are some backwards hymns/organ music leaking through from the other side of the tape throughout which really adds to the fuckedupness of it all. If there's anything more evil than that out there I don't want to hear it.</p></blockquote> <br /> Is it bad that I kind of want to hear that?</p></blockquote> Maybe, but you can always blame society if you feel bad about doing so. I'm pretty sure it's hosted on archive.org. Edited January 14, 2013 by Gocab Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Silent Member's signature Hide all signatures Some songs I made with my fingers and electronics. In the process of making some more. Hopefully. Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77188-show-me-the-most-evil-piece-of-music-youve-been-acquainted-to/page/2/#findComment-1931185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 On 1/14/2013 at 5:45 AM, chimera slot mom said: Mayhem's singer killed himself (on an underground release of their next album, the cover was a photo they took of his fresh corpse) and the guitarist was killed by burzum. My whole point was that there are crazy fuckers who dress like cartoons. Mayhem's singer Dead (that name was too apt), the one who killed himself, was fascinating. There's a documentary called Once Upon A Time In Norway about Mayhem and his bandmates talk about his personality, all saying he was nice but very quiet, very detached, and mentally disturbed. He actually joined Mayhem as a replacement singer, so many of the band members never really got to know him. Dead had a near-death experience when he was young (ruptured spleen from a fight that sent him into clinical death in surgery) and after that was obsessed with death, dying, and the dimensions and world he went to when he "died." It was muse as a singer and performer - he'd sleep in shallow graves, bury clothing with dead animals. Crazy and troubled individual. On 1/14/2013 at 5:45 AM, chimera slot mom said: then there's guys like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zikrYNFZblQ Was going to post a Big Lurch song myself, thought of it after my last post, I remembered "oh right, that 6' 7" rapper from Texas who got high on PCP then killed and ate the entrails of a woman before running out in the middle of a residential street, staring at the sky because he thought the world was ending and he had to find the Devil and kill him." Another convicted murderer, X-Raided had an album released after he was incarcerated, by the same label that released Big Lurch's shelved LP. Only this one's vocals were actually recorded secretly in prison and it's noticeable in the quality it was transmitted over the phone. Another Big Lurch track, sounds even crazier chopped-n-screwed: http://youtu.be/RVPKeSc6bBw Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide joshuatxuk's signature Hide all signatures Tape Escape! Aural Canyon Wood Between Worlds Tapes [joshuatxuk-is-dead] Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77188-show-me-the-most-evil-piece-of-music-youve-been-acquainted-to/page/2/#findComment-1931195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
4d0 Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 On 1/14/2013 at 2:22 PM, triachus said: On 1/14/2013 at 12:49 PM, 4d0lf said: On 1/14/2013 at 10:36 AM, triachus said: edit: okay, looking at all those top comments at charles manson song videos on youtube, i have got to ask: What the fuck is wrong with people? What do you mean? Maybe I overreacted, but I'm just a bit shocked to see the amount of praise/sympathy this man is getting [on youtube/last.fm]... Stuff like "he should be released!" "society is the one to blame!" "he's such a nice guy!" "he looked so handsome/cute!", "good old uncle charlie" etc... At first glance, it feels as if there are still people falling for the charismatic charm of a gruesome, manipulative cult leader, and that thought chills me a bit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=eh6my9e0NOw#t=2434s Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide 4d0's signature Hide all signatures Support for the government is a Stockholm syndrome. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/77188-show-me-the-most-evil-piece-of-music-youve-been-acquainted-to/page/2/#findComment-1931196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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