beerwolf Posted March 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Don't you think he would of grown out of lying by now? That's why I think it exists anyway. Perhaps nowadays the lies are replaced by fictional characters and stories. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78247-remastered-melodies-from-mars/page/2/#findComment-1975714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 (edited) On 3/29/2013 at 1:20 AM, xy_politics said: I see now on the insert for AB4 that, indeed, CAT034 is listed as "Analogue Bubblebath 5" coming soon. Odd that "cuckoo" is on both volumes then. Mastering error? Maybe that's why it was scrapped, who knows. I think the idea is that the tracklist we now know of as ab5 wouldn't be the definite tracklist if it ever were actually released. Edited March 29, 2013 by goDel Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78247-remastered-melodies-from-mars/page/2/#findComment-1975719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 On 3/29/2013 at 12:51 AM, xy_politics said: The chronology of Aphex tracks is frustratingly elusive.. with the exception of I Care Because you do, where every track is dated. It's not totally clear when the MFM tracks were made, but I'd say it's fairly certain that they are part of the same body of work as those on Analogue Bubblebath 5, the sound of those two albums is pretty much interchangeable. My thought has always been that AB5 (as well as MFM) were scrapped for public release in favour of the Hangable Auto Bulb sound he had been developing in 94-95, giving an approx date for AB5 and MFM as 1993 to early 1994 One thing I don't quite understand about AB5 though, is that it has a track from AB4, the "cuckoo" track. Why would that be, if it was pressed afterwards? The Rephlex catalogue numbers would indicate a later release (AB4 - 019, AB5 - 034) but looking at them all the cat nos. aren't always in chronological order. Three questions come out of this, I suppose: Did anyone ever see AB5 in the wild before the release of AB4? and.. Might it be that AB5 was actually scrapped in favour of "I Care Because You Do"? and.. Has AB5 ever actually been officially acknowledged as "Analogue Bubblebath 5"? From the cassette I was given, MFM was a demo tape given to a few WARP and Rephlex bods that Richard was shopping around - it was after ICBYD, but before RDJA and HAB/ABB5 - as mentioned before, this is where he started to experiment more with software and eschew the mostly hardware setup he had from 1990-1994 that produced most of the ICBYD stuff. ABB5 was a white label test pressing and was never officially released, but a few copies got sent around, eventually ending up in the hands of collectors who were willing to let it go. ABB5 had nothing to do with the release of ICBYD, and while some of ABB5's tracks might have originated from the ICBYD era, Richard always kept his tracks separated by alias - so you wouldn't usually see "Aphex Twin" material interspersed with "AFX" stuff. Melodies From Mars as always been identified as an "Aphex Twin" release. Rephlex (for what it's worth) acknowledged ABB5 on discographies and listings, but never released it, and the "cuckoo" track eventually ended up on ABB4. Now, the other interesting proto-releases that never saw the light of day are the "Mind The Gap" song, and the Mr. Men stuff (yes, Richard Hargreaves' Mr. Men) in the vein of Power Pill: Pac Man. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Follow WATMM on Twitter: @WATMMOfficial Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78247-remastered-melodies-from-mars/page/2/#findComment-1975809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Ooze Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 i wish i had this album Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Ivan Ooze's signature Hide all signatures On 2/26/2015 at 9:39 AM, RupturedSouls said: This drugs makes me feel like I'm on song! On 9/1/2014 at 5:50 PM, StephenG said: I'm hardly a closed minded nun. Remember, I'm on a fucking IDM forum.... an IDM forum.. Think about that for a second before claiming people are closed minded nuns. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78247-remastered-melodies-from-mars/page/2/#findComment-1975848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marf Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 (edited) On 3/29/2013 at 12:39 AM, John Ehrlichman said: there are instances on melodies from mars where he's using cheesy sounds intentionally, like preset organ patches and stuff like that. To me it sounds like he's using mostly software to make it, which i think was a similar way he worked on Come to Daddy and RDJ album and maybe Windowlicker. IT's one of his only albums where i don't hear a tell-tale analog synth sound anywhere Id be suprised, and there is no way windowlicker was all computer. I know the bass was an mk-80 in unison mode. dont believe the hype. We love computers cause they are egalitarian, but he uses gear. MFM sounds warm and thick to me. the opposite of software, especially from THAT time period. Edited March 29, 2013 by marf Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78247-remastered-melodies-from-mars/page/2/#findComment-1975956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marf Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 MFM sounds warm and thick to me. the opposite of software, especially from THAT time period. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78247-remastered-melodies-from-mars/page/2/#findComment-1975958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 (edited) well, there were and are still ways to make something sound 'thick' on just a computer especially in the hands of a master. I'm not sure when he started using mostly software, but i think perhap come to daddy was made using mostly computers. I'm sure he did a lot of sampling and one-shot stuff from his gear for it, but take 'Funny Little Man' for example, it sounds very softsynth to me. It's true that around MFM and Richard D James album computers really weren't even powerful enough to make most of that stuff, besides maybe using soundfonts. Even software samplers wouldn't have been able to do stuff like that all in real-time. Edited March 29, 2013 by John Ehrlichman Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78247-remastered-melodies-from-mars/page/2/#findComment-1975959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marf Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb9L6JotWoE Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78247-remastered-melodies-from-mars/page/2/#findComment-1975963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marf Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 Sorry I killed the thread Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78247-remastered-melodies-from-mars/page/2/#findComment-1976217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marf Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 (edited) i was day dreaming today and realized what "melodies from mars" was all about. All the synths in that album have a very kooky vibrato like an old theramin which was used on scii fi films in the 50's or im wrong Edited May 8, 2013 by marf Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78247-remastered-melodies-from-mars/page/2/#findComment-2000056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 Melodies From Mars is one of his albums I'm still listening to on a regular basis. I find it to be one of his most charming works, so simple but so strong. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Lucas's signature Hide all signatures antape @ soundcloud Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78247-remastered-melodies-from-mars/page/2/#findComment-2000141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 On 5/8/2013 at 2:35 AM, marf said: i was day dreaming today and realized what "melodies from mars" was all about. All the synths in that album have a very kooky vibrato like an old theramin which was used on scii fi films in the 50's or im wrong You might be right - I always meant to ask Richard why he named it that... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Follow WATMM on Twitter: @WATMMOfficial Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78247-remastered-melodies-from-mars/page/2/#findComment-2000327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Mughnus Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 On 5/8/2013 at 6:57 PM, Joyrex said: On 5/8/2013 at 2:35 AM, marf said: i was day dreaming today and realized what "melodies from mars" was all about. All the synths in that album have a very kooky vibrato like an old theramin which was used on scii fi films in the 50's or im wrong You might be right - I always meant to ask Richard why he named it that... I gathered the same thing as marf actually. =P Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Hugh Mughnus's signature Hide all signatures On 1/19/2020 at 5:27 PM, Richie Sombrero said: Nah, you're a wee child who can't wait for official release. Embarrassing. Shove your privilege. On 9/2/2014 at 12:37 AM, Ivan Ooze said: don't be a cockroach prolapsing nun bulkV Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78247-remastered-melodies-from-mars/page/2/#findComment-2000330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivy Zemura yvI oo ii oo Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 On 5/8/2013 at 6:57 PM, Joyrex said: On 5/8/2013 at 2:35 AM, marf said: i was day dreaming today and realized what "melodies from mars" was all about. All the synths in that album have a very kooky vibrato like an old theramin which was used on scii fi films in the 50's or im wrong You might be right - I always meant to ask Richard why he named it that... I already asked him, he said "That's a quite good estimate you're on the right track" Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78247-remastered-melodies-from-mars/page/2/#findComment-2000573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marf Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 was this his only themed album? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78247-remastered-melodies-from-mars/page/2/#findComment-2000575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lane Visitor Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 On 5/9/2013 at 12:36 AM, marf said: was this his only themed album? Saw II is kinda themed, i think - as far as the unofficial titles based on images.. grass, mold, windchimes, cliffs, etc.. a nature theme? seemed to be sub themes running between 96-97 releases regarding family.. boy/girl.. come to daddy... pappy mix... kids voices... milkman's wive's ... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78247-remastered-melodies-from-mars/page/2/#findComment-2000590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinski Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 On 5/8/2013 at 2:35 AM, marf said: i was day dreaming today and realized what "melodies from mars" was all about. All the synths in that album have a very kooky vibrato like an old theramin which was used on scii fi films in the 50's or im wrong i always saw it as a nod to delia derbyshire and bbc radiophonic workshop experiments (doctor who stuff, etc) rather than game music as it is commonly described. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78247-remastered-melodies-from-mars/page/2/#findComment-2000592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cult fiction Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 Over time, I've come to accept more and more that most if not all of the Steinvord tunes are RDJ. Back in 2008 it seemed plausible that an imposter could have pulled off Untitled and Untitled 9, but in the ensuing years I think it's clearer than ever that nobody else could have done those tracks. Given that, I think Untitled 97 is very interesting. It was released long before RDJ talked about a MFM re-release. While the opening melody isn't from any particular MFM song, it IS exactly how I might imagine an MFM remake to sound. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78247-remastered-melodies-from-mars/page/2/#findComment-2000715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1000 Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 RDJ's attempt at making kid-friendly tunes . perfect & bubbly sounding Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78247-remastered-melodies-from-mars/page/2/#findComment-2001130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Mughnus Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 On 5/9/2013 at 8:24 AM, cult fiction said: Over time, I've come to accept more and more that most if not all of the Steinvord tunes are RDJ. Back in 2008 it seemed plausible that an imposter could have pulled off Untitled and Untitled 9, but in the ensuing years I think it's clearer than ever that nobody else could have done those tracks. Given that, I think Untitled 97 is very interesting. It was released long before RDJ talked about a MFM re-release. While the opening melody isn't from any particular MFM song, it IS exactly how I might imagine an MFM remake to sound. I thought we all agreed tracks 1-3 were Rich and 4-5 were Tom! RE Untitled 97 and it being MFM/ish.... it sounds kind of sinister to me compared to MFM. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Hugh Mughnus's signature Hide all signatures On 1/19/2020 at 5:27 PM, Richie Sombrero said: Nah, you're a wee child who can't wait for official release. Embarrassing. Shove your privilege. On 9/2/2014 at 12:37 AM, Ivan Ooze said: don't be a cockroach prolapsing nun bulkV Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78247-remastered-melodies-from-mars/page/2/#findComment-2001139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marf Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 (edited) On 5/9/2013 at 12:32 AM, Zeffolia said: On 5/8/2013 at 6:57 PM, Joyrex said: On 5/8/2013 at 2:35 AM, marf said: i was day dreaming today and realized what "melodies from mars" was all about. All the synths in that album have a very kooky vibrato like an old theramin which was used on scii fi films in the 50's or im wrong You might be right - I always meant to ask Richard why he named it that... I already asked him, he said "That's a quite good estimate you're on the right track" Really? Are you joking? On 5/10/2013 at 12:44 AM, B1000 said: RDJ's attempt at making kid-friendly tunes . perfect & bubbly sounding Yes, id love to play it for my nephew :-) Edited May 10, 2013 by marf Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78247-remastered-melodies-from-mars/page/2/#findComment-2001175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cult fiction Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 On 5/10/2013 at 12:56 AM, StephenG said: On 5/9/2013 at 8:24 AM, cult fiction said: Over time, I've come to accept more and more that most if not all of the Steinvord tunes are RDJ. Back in 2008 it seemed plausible that an imposter could have pulled off Untitled and Untitled 9, but in the ensuing years I think it's clearer than ever that nobody else could have done those tracks. Given that, I think Untitled 97 is very interesting. It was released long before RDJ talked about a MFM re-release. While the opening melody isn't from any particular MFM song, it IS exactly how I might imagine an MFM remake to sound. I thought we all agreed tracks 1-3 were Rich and 4-5 were Tom! RE Untitled 97 and it being MFM/ish.... it sounds kind of sinister to me compared to MFM. The second half sure, but the intro is total MFM. It's a bit like MFM-era richard splitting a track with post-Druqks richard. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78247-remastered-melodies-from-mars/page/2/#findComment-2001301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1000 Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 (edited) On 5/10/2013 at 1:44 AM, marf said: On 5/10/2013 at 12:44 AM, B1000 said: RDJ's attempt at making kid-friendly tunes . perfect & bubbly sounding Yes, id love to play it for my nephew :-) Ha, yep that is what I was thinking as I wrote it! I'm going to play MFM for him next time he's round :) Edited May 10, 2013 by B1000 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78247-remastered-melodies-from-mars/page/2/#findComment-2001512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Mughnus Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 On 5/10/2013 at 6:51 AM, cult fiction said: On 5/10/2013 at 12:56 AM, StephenG said: On 5/9/2013 at 8:24 AM, cult fiction said: Over time, I've come to accept more and more that most if not all of the Steinvord tunes are RDJ. Back in 2008 it seemed plausible that an imposter could have pulled off Untitled and Untitled 9, but in the ensuing years I think it's clearer than ever that nobody else could have done those tracks. Given that, I think Untitled 97 is very interesting. It was released long before RDJ talked about a MFM re-release. While the opening melody isn't from any particular MFM song, it IS exactly how I might imagine an MFM remake to sound. I thought we all agreed tracks 1-3 were Rich and 4-5 were Tom! RE Untitled 97 and it being MFM/ish.... it sounds kind of sinister to me compared to MFM. The second half sure, but the intro is total MFM. It's a bit like MFM-era richard splitting a track with post-Druqks richard. Yes, I agree with this for sure! I would go for a whole album with this vibe actually. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Hugh Mughnus's signature Hide all signatures On 1/19/2020 at 5:27 PM, Richie Sombrero said: Nah, you're a wee child who can't wait for official release. Embarrassing. Shove your privilege. On 9/2/2014 at 12:37 AM, Ivan Ooze said: don't be a cockroach prolapsing nun bulkV Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78247-remastered-melodies-from-mars/page/2/#findComment-2001536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinski Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 so anyway, i spent last 3 days internetless in the woods listening to this and i have to say - i love how little sequencers there seem to be in this. there's tons of little flubs which makes me think richard tried to make an album 'the old way' and play it mostly by hand. it's cute. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78247-remastered-melodies-from-mars/page/2/#findComment-2002726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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