Terpentintollwut Posted April 6, 2013 Report Share Posted April 6, 2013 A friend of mine is hosting a presentation of some kind of experimental art-porno-project at art school, and a sort of after-show party as well. I was recruited as DJ for the dancefloor-section of the party a while ago and naturally said I was gonna do it. Today I learned he's got some pretty messed up stuff in mind for the party (which the school doesn't know about), supposedly there's gonna be some "performances", a girl painting with the brush up her ass or something (seriously!) He also wants to have a darkroom and wants me to improvise some kind of sound design for that room, too! I gotta come up with something. Can't have a silent darkroom, but I wouldn't know what kind of music to play in there either - Any ideas? I'm not joking. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78359-darkroom-sound-design/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 lol, that is some ridiculous performance art. I'm not surprised by it either though. in art if you lack talent, sensationalism and shock value are your friends you should just make some weird minimal dark ambient. check out robert henke's sound installations for inspiration maybe? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78359-darkroom-sound-design/#findComment-1980012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 A 5.1 noisy performance kinda like the ae+hafler trio stuff (but maybe not so minimal) would be awesome. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide modey's signature Hide all signatures youtube | bandcamp | soundcloud | twitter | facebook 0F.digital Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78359-darkroom-sound-design/#findComment-1980046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Foil Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 just paulstretch a fart or something. they'll love it Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78359-darkroom-sound-design/#findComment-1980049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terpentintollwut Posted April 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 Dark Ambient was something I had in mind, actually. I was thinking about pretty much just looping Metastatic Resonance by Lustmord. I just realized I've never even heard the ae+hafler trio thing! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78359-darkroom-sound-design/#findComment-1980057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terpentintollwut Posted April 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 How about some Dub Techno? Certainly would be MY kind of thing, but I dunno about the rest of the world ... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78359-darkroom-sound-design/#findComment-1980064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audioblysk Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 Just play tim hecker paulstretched and reversed. If you really wanna go Po-Mo, have the turntables control you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdO9orWQ-Nk Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Audioblysk's signature Hide all signatures "You could always do a Thoreau and walden your ass into a forest." - chenGOD ##### | (.) (.) ] | < / | O / ----- Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78359-darkroom-sound-design/#findComment-1980125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soloman Tump Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 have you got a half decent field mike? Record loads of street sounds and stuff while walking around at night. Give people the perception that they are walking through a dark city or something. And add loads of noise at random intervals to really shit people up. Sounds like a fun project let us know how it goes Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Soloman Tump's signature Hide all signatures https://intrusivesignals.blogspot.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78359-darkroom-sound-design/#findComment-1980213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terpentintollwut Posted April 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 I've got a Zoom H2n which is pretty fantastic, I made some city-at-night recordings already. There's surely loads of stuff that can be done in a dark room, however, I'm not sure something like this will work for the sake of a traditional >darkroom<. Won't that just make people freak out instead of ... getting busy? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78359-darkroom-sound-design/#findComment-1980231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soloman Tump Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 paulstretch some porn Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Soloman Tump's signature Hide all signatures https://intrusivesignals.blogspot.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78359-darkroom-sound-design/#findComment-1980270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squee Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 If you wanna get really artsy you should do some sonic time layering of that very room. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78359-darkroom-sound-design/#findComment-1980274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drix Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 On 4/7/2013 at 1:24 PM, feltcher said: paulstretch some porn Actually, this would be perfect. Just slow enough to not be too obvious, but also not too slow so people won't understand what it is. If you want music as well, this should go in the background anyway. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78359-darkroom-sound-design/#findComment-1980319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 How about Hafler Trio's Masturbatorium and Fuck 'albums' (I'd class them more as singles given the running time). Arty, sexually fuelled. Perfick ! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78359-darkroom-sound-design/#findComment-1980321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soloman Tump Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 On 4/7/2013 at 1:35 PM, Squee said: If you wanna get really artsy you should do some sonic time layering of that very room. Sample the audience and play it back to them all glitched up and shizzle? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Soloman Tump's signature Hide all signatures https://intrusivesignals.blogspot.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78359-darkroom-sound-design/#findComment-1980407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squee Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 On 4/7/2013 at 8:14 PM, feltcher said: On 4/7/2013 at 1:35 PM, Squee said: If you wanna get really artsy you should do some sonic time layering of that very room. Sample the audience and play it back to them all glitched up and shizzle? Well, he could do that. But I was just thinking about amplifying the room tone of the room. Record the sound of the room, then play that recording in the same room and record that, and so on and so on. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78359-darkroom-sound-design/#findComment-1980410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 (edited) On 4/7/2013 at 8:17 PM, Squee said: On 4/7/2013 at 8:14 PM, feltcher said: On 4/7/2013 at 1:35 PM, Squee said: If you wanna get really artsy you should do some sonic time layering of that very room. Sample the audience and play it back to them all glitched up and shizzle? Well, he could do that. But I was just thinking about amplifying the room tone of the room. Record the sound of the room, then play that recording in the same room and record that, and so on and so on. That's a good idea http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jU9mJbJsQ8 Edited April 8, 2013 by Joseph Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide joseph's signature Hide all signatures Autechre Rule - Queen are Shite Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78359-darkroom-sound-design/#findComment-1980577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 On 4/7/2013 at 8:17 PM, Squee said: I was just thinking about amplifying the room tone of the room. Record the sound of the room, then play that recording in the same room and record that, and so on and so on.There's an awesome album (4 rooms) by Jacob Kirkegaard where he does just that, visitng four rooms in the 'Zone of Alienation' in Chernobyl. He recorded the room then played that back in the same room, recorded that etc. etc. about a half dozen times. Here's one in a swimming pool - Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78359-darkroom-sound-design/#findComment-1980791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squee Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 On 4/8/2013 at 2:43 PM, mcbpete said: On 4/7/2013 at 8:17 PM, Squee said: I was just thinking about amplifying the room tone of the room. Record the sound of the room, then play that recording in the same room and record that, and so on and so on.There's an awesome album (4 rooms) by Jacob Kirkegaard where he does just that by visitng four rooms in the 'Zone of Alienation' in Chernobyl that he's recorded, played back in the room, recorded that etc. etc. . Here's one in a swimming pool - Yeah, that's where I got the idea from :) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78359-darkroom-sound-design/#findComment-1980792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terpentintollwut Posted April 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 Whoops, didn't check my own thread until now. First of all, what does >paulstretch< mean? Like time-stretching without affecting the pitch? Second of all, these are some neat ideas! I don't have enough time to do some amazing experiment as I've already got the mix, a video and the lighting to do and the party is going down Friday. Porn-Samples are a good idea, they'd need to subtly merge into the music somehow and not be too blatantly coming from speakers... perhaps I could take some moans and kill all high and middle frequencies. Will try that. That re-recording thing is interesting. Will it sound different depending on the room or is it just the sound system? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78359-darkroom-sound-design/#findComment-1980819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squee Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 Paulstretch is just a program that is able to stretch audio insanely well. Back when it came out people would timestretch Justin Bieber and turn his music into beautiful ambient. Not sure what you're asking about about the sonic time layering? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78359-darkroom-sound-design/#findComment-1980824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zkreso Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 (edited) Don't record the room/people and play it back. It's been done to death. Just play dub techno like you planned, in my experience most people's affinity for interesting visual/performance art doesn't transfer to music. edit: plus dub techno owns anyway Edited April 8, 2013 by zkreso Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78359-darkroom-sound-design/#findComment-1980849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terpentintollwut Posted April 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 Yeah Squee I was asking about the sonic time layering - would it sound different in every room, due to the shape of that very room? Even if I use the same exact sample and sound system? So that's where these Bieber ambient pieces came from ... Is Paulstretch freeware? Also, how does it work so well? My list of Darkroom-tracks so far: Ohrwert - Converse (Segue Dos Remix)Ohrwert - Übertragene Anwählungen (Teil Eins)Fluxion - Fovea CentralisFluxion - OutersideFluxion - AviationPlastikman - ContainPlastikman - In Side I'm open to some Dub Techno recommendations! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78359-darkroom-sound-design/#findComment-1980861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 Yeah it's freeware (well Donationware - http://hypermammut.sourceforge.net/paulstretch/ ). It works using granular synthesis, to put it in the most simple terms it breaks down the sound into tiny little (as in millisecond) 'particles' and repeats little blocks of those particles for the extreme time stretching. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78359-darkroom-sound-design/#findComment-1980868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squee Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 On 4/8/2013 at 4:48 PM, Terpentintollwut said: Yeah Squee I was asking about the sonic time layering - would it sound different in every room, due to the shape of that very room? Even if I use the same exact sample and sound system? Yeah, I guess... kinda... since the recording will end up as one long drone, and there will most likely be frequencies in that drone that will resonate and sound fucked depending on the shape and size of the room. But if you have time for it and if you think this would be an interesting idea, you should record the roomtone from the darkroom and play and record that in the same darkroom for maximum effect. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78359-darkroom-sound-design/#findComment-1980987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terpentintollwut Posted April 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 That'd be cool but won't that just get people nauseous pretty much? About Paulstretch - it says I can download the sourcecode, that's nice but what do I do with it? I was expecting like a small exe-file or something Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/78359-darkroom-sound-design/#findComment-1981019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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