Feminism is nonsense

Good troll, would read again.

There should be some clarification to the thread title, as at the very least, muslim feminism is not nonsense.

  On 4/15/2013 at 9:18 AM, rixxx said:

 

  On 4/15/2013 at 8:39 AM, ghOsty said:

 

  On 4/15/2013 at 6:52 AM, zaphod said:

what the fuck is up with this forum lately

 

Seriously... all this socio/political bickering and argument stirring is annoying. I strongly suggest we create a Political/Social Issues subforum to move all the recent debates into thier and keeo general banter friendly and fun again.

Please.

 

 

Bitch until I can rape yo' ass until it bleeds and yo' be howling like some pussy ass then I gots equal right, yal hear me?

Don't tell me that's what you think when thinking about Marks and Spencer. Yo.

  On 4/15/2013 at 9:22 AM, rixxx said:

Good troll, would read again.

Why do you think I am a troll

What of what I have said is untrue? And please provide sources for your contradicting evidence.

  On 4/15/2013 at 9:21 AM, Zeffolia said:

 

  On 4/15/2013 at 9:05 AM, encey said:

And poor black people just choose to work at McDonalds because it's so close to where they live, right?

 

Also, someone has to push babby out of pus pus, and that takes recovery time, a stitched-up perineum and lots of tit-pumpin' in the corner. See how well a male CEO keeps his job if he has to go jack off and feed it to his kid every two hours!

Like I said before that means personal choices stop women from being a CEO

 

Nobody's forcing them to have a baby.

 

lol Encey, what a vivid imagination you have

*checks Zeffolia's scores in the Autism Spectrum thread*

  On 4/15/2013 at 9:29 AM, Zeffolia said:

 

  On 4/15/2013 at 9:22 AM, rixxx said:

Good troll, would read again.

Why do you think I am a troll

 

What of what I have said is untrue? And please provide sources for your contradicting evidence.

 

Go listen to Rush Limbaugh and eat a pube sandwich

  On 4/15/2013 at 9:32 AM, goDel said:

*checks Zeffolia's scores in the Autism Spectrum thread*

Yeah...where was I...

It's a nicely provocative article you've cited there. But I have to say, the fact that your paraphrase of the article's thesis is "there is no wage gap" has me seriously concerned that either (a) you have poor reading comprehension or (b) you are a troll.

Also, how do you explain the ethnicity wage gap?

And finally, I think your suggestion that feminism is just about women, is incorrect.

  On 4/15/2013 at 9:29 AM, goDel said:

 

  On 4/15/2013 at 9:18 AM, rixxx said:

 

  On 4/15/2013 at 8:39 AM, ghOsty said:

 

  On 4/15/2013 at 6:52 AM, zaphod said:

what the fuck is up with this forum lately

Seriously... all this socio/political bickering and argument stirring is annoying. I strongly suggest we create a Political/Social Issues subforum to move all the recent debates into thier and keeo general banter friendly and fun again.

Please.

 

 

Bitch until I can rape yo' ass until it bleeds and yo' be howling like some pussy ass then I gots equal right, yal hear me?

Don't tell me that's what you think when thinking about Marks and Spencer. Yo.

 

Ive just come up with the idea to start an extreme feminist group that goes round shoving wooden chair legs up men's assholes until the bleed and then give them a shot of oestrogen (just so they know how it would really truly feel).

  On 4/15/2013 at 9:29 AM, Zeffolia said:

 

  On 4/15/2013 at 9:22 AM, rixxx said:

Good troll, would read again.

Why do you think I am a troll

 

What of what I have said is untrue? And please provide sources for your contradicting evidence.

 

Woman are constantly having to deal with sexist bullshit, this morning this happened:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22083547

At the current rate it of progress, it will be 2065 before woman achieve equal pay Bellamy and rake (2005)

http://careers.guardian.co.uk/careers-blog/graduate-gender-pay-gap-university-subject

here's to name a few, but if you really think that feminism is simply about unequal pay than you really are a dumbass, did you know:

"Domestic violence is a gender-based crime with women being more likely to experience domestic violence than men. According to the National Violence Against Women Survey (NVAWS) about 1.5 million women are raped and/or physically assaulted by an intimate partner annually( Tjaden & Thoennes, 2000). According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics Crime Data Brief, which measured only physical assaults, "there were 691,710 nonfatal violent victimizations committed by current or former spouses, boyfriends, or girlfriends of the victims during 2001(Rennison, 2003). Of these, 85% were against women(Rennison, 2003). The NVAWS also found that 22.1 percent of women surveyed, compared to 7.4 percent of men, reported being physically assaulted by a current or former partner in their lifetime(Rennison, 2003 )."

This is the tip of the ice burg, the thing is feminism isn't about woman wanting MORE rights, we want equality for everyone.

  On 4/15/2013 at 9:32 AM, goDel said:

*checks Zeffolia's scores in the Autism Spectrum thread*

and seriously fuck you zeff.

I am so sick of hearing white males bitch about having it worse off than everyone else. why don't you get out of your little self-isolated mental masturbation thought bubble and learn something about the real world.

quit telling people to combat your bullshit; you can find tons of "evidence" to back up any harebrained argument, so what's the point if you're just going to continue to justify your attitude with baseless statistics and lengthy papers you know no one is going to read?

you need to straighten your attitude out about women, son.

To be fair though, it wouldn't hurt to tell him why he's incorrect. I think I know where you're coming from, but I'm not sure about Zeffolia tbh.

*tries to be awkwardly constructive*

@ency

Not to white knight but the idea that there is no need for feminism in 2013 is some goofy shit.

I don't even know where to begin. Look at all the fields that are male-dominated.

  On 4/15/2013 at 9:32 AM, goDel said:

*checks Zeffolia's scores in the Autism Spectrum thread*

lol

lol

lol

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Ive just come up with the idea to start an extreme feminist group that goes round shoving wooden chair legs up men's assholes until the bleed and then give them a shot of oestrogen (just so they know how it would really truly feel).

>.<

How's Mike doing lately? Can he still walk? Or is he lucky you don't have wooden chairs in your house?

  On 4/15/2013 at 8:56 AM, Friendly Foil said:

 

  On 4/15/2013 at 8:39 AM, ghOsty said:

 

  On 4/15/2013 at 6:52 AM, zaphod said:

what the fuck is up with this forum lately

Seriously... all this socio/political bickering and argument stirring is annoying. I strongly suggest we create a Political/Social Issues subforum to move all the recent debates into thier and keeo general banter friendly and fun again.

This.

 

Word. We don't need an electronic music forum to turn into Reddit or a bunch of bickering YouTube comments. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy civilized discussion and debate regarding current issues in moderate amounts, but when done in excess it just makes everybody grumpy.

I'm a proud IDM fan since 1997, and that's why I joined WATMM in the first place.

  On 4/15/2013 at 9:57 AM, goDel said:

 

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Ive just come up with the idea to start an extreme feminist group that goes round shoving wooden chair legs up men's assholes until the bleed and then give them a shot of oestrogen (just so they know how it would really truly feel).

>.<

 

How's Mike doing lately? Can he still walk? Or is he lucky you don't have wooden chairs in your house?

 

He came up with the idea of the wooden leg, I suggested a dildo *swoons over lovingly understanding husband*

Domestic violence is gender neutral

The sources you're citing are bull, Rixx.

The articles I posted addressed your claims

Gender wage gap is caused by career choices.

Domestic violence is NOT one sided and the statistics only show that because of biased surveys and basing things off hospital records.

What self respecting man goes into the hospital and asks for help because his woman beats him? None and they are laughed out and not given help.

Matriarchy.

Lets organize an IDM Tea-party!

  On 4/15/2013 at 10:02 AM, goDel said:

Lets organize an IDM Tea-party!

Only if it involves actual tea.

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Domestic violence against men refers to abuse against men or boys in an intimate relationship such as marriage, cohabitation, dating, or within the family.

[edit]Prevalence

Determining how many instances of domestic violence actually involve male victims is difficult. Male domestic violence victims may be reluctant to get help for a number of reasons.^%5B1%5D Some studies have shown that women who assaulted their male partners were more likely to avoid arrest even when the male victim contacts police.^%5B2%5D Another study examined the differences in how male and female batterers were treated by the criminal justice system. The study concluded that female intimate violence perpetrators are frequently viewed by law enforcement and the criminal justice system as victims rather than the actual offenders of violence against men.^%5B3%5D Other studies have also demonstrated a high degree of acceptance of aggression against men by women.^%5B4%5D

Studies have shown many police officers do not treat domestic violence against men as a serious crime, and often will view the male victim as a "pathetic figure". It is for this reason, and also the view among many law enforcement officers that men are inherently "stronger" than women, that male victims are often less likely to report domestic violence than female victims. When and if they do, men are often treated as the aggressor in the situation, and often even placed under arrest.^%5B5%5D

A 1997 report says significantly more men than women do not disclose the identity of their attacker.^%5B6%5D A 2009 study showed that there was greater acceptance for abuse perpetrated by females than by males.^%5B7%5D Several studies have confirmed that women’s physical violence towards intimate male partners is sometimes in self-defense.^{%5B8%5D%5B9%5D%5B10%5D%5B11%5D} In a recent study of the judicial attributions of sentences for battered women convicted of killing their male partners, researchers found that judges often minimized previous partner violence, describing discrete episodes of violence, rather than as ongoing patterns of serious domestic abuse.^%5B12%5D

[edit]Reciprocal Violence

Findings that women are as violent as men have been termed "gender symmetry".^{%5B1%5D%5B13%5D%5B14%5D%5B15%5D%5B16%5D%5B17%5D}

A 32-nation study of university students "revealed an overwhelming body of evidence that bidirectional violence is the predominant pattern of perpetration; and this study, along with evidence from many other studies (Medeiros & Straus, 2007), indicates that the etiology of PV is mostly parallel for men and women."^%5B18%5D

Straus and Gelles found that in couples reporting spousal violence, 27% of the time the man struck the first blow; in 24% of cases, the woman initiated the violence. The rest of the time, the violence was mutual, with both partners brawling. The results were the same even when the most severe episodes of violence were analyzed. In order to counteract claims that the reporting data was skewed, female-only surveys were conducted, asking females to self-report, and the data was the same.^%5B19%5D The simple tally of physical acts is typically found to be similar in those studies that examine both directions, but some studies show that male violence may be more serious. Male violence may do more damage than female violence;^%5B20%5D women are more likely to be injured and/or hospitalized. Wives are more likely to be killed by their husbands than the reverse (59% to 41% per Department of Justice study), and women in general are more likely to be killed by their spouses than by all other types of assailants combined.^%5B21%5D From a data set of 6,200 cases of spousal abuse in the Detroit area of USA in 1978-79 found that men used weapons 25% of the time while female assailants used weapons 86% of the time, 74% of men sustained injury and of these 84% required medical care.^%5B22%5D

In the United Kingdom, an article in The Guardian reported that statistical bulletins from the Home Office and the British Crime Survey found that men made up approximately 40% of domestic violence victims each year between 2004-05 and 2008-09.^%5B23%5D

Martin S. Fiebert of the Department of Psychology at California State University, Long Beach, has compiled an annotated bibliography of research relating to spousal abuse by women on men. This bibliography examines 275 scholarly investigations: 214 empirical studies and 61 reviews and/or analyses that appear to demonstrate that women are as physically aggressive, or more aggressive, than men in their relationships with their spouses or male partners. The aggregate sample size in the reviewed studies exceeds 365,000.^%5B24%5D In a Los Angeles Times article about male victims of domestic violence, Fiebert suggests that "...consensus in the field is that women are as likely as men to strike their partner but that—as expected—women are more likely to be injured than men."^%5B25%5D However, he noted, men are seriously injured in 38% of the cases in which "extreme aggression" is used. Fiebert additionally noted that his work was not meant to minimize the serious effects of men who abuse women.

In a 2002 review of the research however Michael Kimmel found that violence is instrumental in maintaining control and that more than 90% of "systematic, persistent, and injurious" violence is perpetrated by men. He points out that most of the empirical studies that Fiebert reviewed used the same empirical measure of family conflict, i.e., the Conflict Tactics Scale (CTS) as the sole measure of domestic violence and that many of the studies noted by Fiebert discussed samples composed entirely of single people younger than 30, not married couples.^%5B26%5D Kimmel argues that among various other flaws, the CTS is particularly vulnerable to reporting bias because it depends on asking people to accurately remember and report what happened during the past year. Men tend to underestimate their use of violence, while women tend to overestimate their use of violence. Simultaneously men tend to overestimate their partner's use of violence while women tend to underestimate their partner's use of violence. Thus, men will likely overestimate their victimization, while women tend to underestimate theirs.^%5B27%5D

Similarly, the National Institute of Justice states that some studies finding equal or greater frequency of abuse by women against men are based on data compiled through theConflict Tactics Scale. This survey tool was developed in the 1970s and may not be appropriate for intimate partner violence research because it does not measure control, coercion, or the motives for conflict tactics; it also leaves out sexual assault and violence by ex-spouses or partners and does not determine who initiated the violence. Furthermore, the NIJ contends that national surveys supported by NIJ, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and the Bureau of Justice Statistics that examine more serious assaults do not support the conclusion of similar rates of male and female spousal assaults. These surveys are conducted within a safety or crime context and clearly find more partner abuse by men against women.^%5B28%5D However more modern Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and other research reports that female perpetrated domestic abuse is more common than male ^{%5B29%5D%5B30%5D}

In a Meta-analysis, John Archer, Ph. D., from the Department of Psychology, University of Central Lancashire, UK, writes:

 

The present analyses indicate that men are among those who are likely to be on the receiving end of acts of physical aggression.^%5B1%5D The extent to which this involves mutual combat or the male equivalent to "battered women" is at present unresolved. Both situations are causes for concern. Straus (1997) has warned of the dangers involved—especially for women—when physical aggression becomes a routine response to relationship conflict. "Battered men"—those subjected to systematic and prolonged violence—are likely to suffer physical and psychological consequences, together with specific problems associated with a lack of recognition of their plight (George and George, 1998). Seeking to address these problems need not detract from continuing to address the problem of "battered women."^%5B31%5D

 

[edit]Causes

Gender roles and expectations can and do play a role in abusive situations, and exploring these roles and expectations can be helpful in addressing abusive situations. Likewise, it can be helpful to explore factors such as race, class, religion, sexuality and philosophy. However, studies investigating whether sexist attitudes are correlated with domestic violence have shown conflicting results.^{%5B32%5D%5B33%5D}

Some researchers have found a relationship between the availability of domestic violence services, improved laws and enforcement regarding domestic violence, increased access to divorce, and higher earnings for women with declines in intimate partner homicide by women.^%5B34%5D

In Norway, researcher Anja Bredal's opinion is that non-Norwegian men are being assaulted by their wives who are of the same ethnicity—who are Norwegian citizens.^%5B35%5D

[edit]Responses

Erin Pizzey who opened one of the first women’s refuges in 1971, has said that almost as many men as women are victims of domestic violence and found that over half (62%)^%5B36%5Dof the women she admitted were as violent as their partners. She also stated that men were in need of a different kind of help than is currently available to them.

[edit]See also

• Acid throwing
• Child soldier
• Human trafficking
• Male genital mutilation
• Violence against women

[edit]References

• ^ ^{a b c} Kumar, A. (2012). "Domestic Violence against Men in India: A Perspective".Journal of Human Behavior in the Social Environment 22 (3): 290–296.doi:10.1080/10911359.2012.655988. edit
• ^ Felson and Pare, (2007) p. 436
• ^ Kingsnorth and MacIntosh, (2007) p. 461
• ^ Straus, Murray A. (2006). "Paper presented at conference on Trends in Intimate Violence Intervention". New York University.
• ^ Hoyle, Carolyn; Young, Richard New Visions of Crime Victims (2002) pp. 94-96
• ^ Rand, M. R.; Strom, K. (1997). "Violence-related injuries treated in hospital emergency departments". Bureau of Justice Statistics special report: 1–11. PMID 12295375. edit
• ^ Robertson, K.; Murachver, T. (2009). "Attitudes and Attributions Associated with Female and Male Partner Violence". Journal of Applied Social Psychology 39 (7): 1481.doi:10.1111/j.1559-1816.2009.00492.x. edit
• ^ Dekeseredy, W. S.; Saunders, D. G.; Schwartz, M. D.; Alvi, S. (1997). "The meanings and motives for women's use of violence in Canadian college dating relationships: Results from a national survey". Sociological Spectrum 17 (2): 199.doi:10.1080/02732173.1997.9982160. edit
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• ^ Swan, S. C.; Snow, D. L. (2002). "A Typology of Women's Use of Violence in Intimate Relationships". Violence Against Women 8 (3): 286.doi:10.1177/107780120200800302. edit
• ^ Muelleman, R. L.; Burgess, P. (1998). "Male victims of domestic violence and their history of perpetrating violence". Academic emergency medicine : official journal of the Society for Academic Emergency Medicine 5 (9): 866–870. PMID 9754498. edit
• ^ Wells, E. C. (2012). "But most of all, they fought together": judicial attributions for sentences in convicting battered women who kill. Psychology of Women Quarterly, 36, 350-364. doi: 10.1177/0361684312448932
• ^ Archer, J. (2000). "Sex differences in aggression between heterosexual partners: A meta-analytic review". Psychological Bulletin 126 (5): 651–680. doi:10.1037/0033-2909.126.5.651. PMID 10989615. edit
• ^ O'Leary, K. D. (2000). "Are women really more aggressive than men in intimate relationships? Comment on Archer (2000)". Psychological Bulletin 126 (5): 685–689.doi:10.1037/0033-2909.126.5.685. PMID 10989617. edit
• ^ Frieze, I. H. (2000). "Violence in close relationships--development of a research area: Comment on Archer (2000)". Psychological Bulletin 126 (5): 681–684.doi:10.1037/0033-2909.126.5.681. PMID 10989616. edit
• ^ White, J. W.; Smith, P. H.; Koss, M. P.; Figueredo, A. J. (2000). "Intimate partner aggression--what have we learned? Comment on Archer (2000)". Psychological bulletin 126 (5): 690–696. PMID 10989618. edit
• ^ Johnson, M. P. (2005). "Domestic Violence: It's Not About Gender-Or is It?". Journal of Marriage and Family 67 (5): 1126–1130. doi:10.1111/j.1741-3737.2005.00204.x. edit
• ^ Straus, Murray (2008). "Dominance and symmetry in partner violence by male and female university students in 32 nations". Children and Youth Services Review 30. p. 252.
• ^ Straus, M. A., Gelles, R. J. and Smith Ch., ed. (1995). Physical Violence in American Families. Transaction Publishers. p. 105. ISBN 1-56000-828-8.
• ^ Vivian, D.; Langhinrichsen-Rohling, J. (1994). "Are bi-directionally violent couples mutually victimized? A gender-sensitive comparison". Violence and victims 9 (2): 107–124. PMID 7696192. edit
• ^ Angela Browne and Kirk R. Williams (1989). "Exploring the Effect of Resource Availability and the Likelihood of Female-perpetrated Homicides". Law and Society Review 23 (1): 75–94. doi:10.2307/3053881. JSTOR 3053881.
• ^ Women against men: An examination of domestic violence based on an analysis of official data and national victimization data, McLeod, M., Justice Quarterly, 1, 171-193
• ^ Campbell, Denis (5 September 2010). "More than 40% of domestic violence victims are male, report reveals". The Guardian (London). Retrieved 10 February 2013. "Data from Home Office statistical bulletins and the British Crime Survey show that men made up about 40% of domestic violence victims each year between 2004-05 and 2008-09, the last year for which figures are available."
• ^ Fiebert, Martin S. References examining assaults by women on their spouses or male partners:an annotated bibliography
• ^ Parsons, Dana (10 April 2002). "Pitcher's Case Throws a Curve at Common Beliefs About Abuse". L.A. Times. Retrieved 23 December 2011.
• ^ "Gender Symmetry" in Domestic Violence: A Substantive and Methodological Research Review NCJRS Abstract.
• ^ Kimmel, Michael S. (2002) Male Victims of Domestic Violence. Published as "Gender Symmetry" in Domestic Violence: A Substantive and Methodological Research Review in Violence Against Women.
• ^ Measuring Intimate Partner (Domestic) Violence National Institute of Justice. Retrieved 2011-11-18.
• ^ Straus, M. A. (1999). The controversy over domestic violence by women: A methodological, theoretical, and sociology of science analysis. In X. B.Arriaga & S.Oskamp (Eds.), Violence in intimate relationships (pp. 17–44). Thousand Oaks, CA: Sage.
• ^ Whitaker, D. J.; Haileyesus, T.; Swahn, M.; Saltzman, L. S. (2007). "Differences in Frequency of Violence and Reported Injury Between Relationships with Reciprocal and Nonreciprocal Intimate Partner Violence". American Journal of Public Health 97 (5): 941–947. doi:10.2105/AJPH.2005.079020. PMC 1854883. PMID 17395835. edit
• ^ Archer, J. (2002). "Sex differences in physically aggressive acts between heterosexual partners". Aggression and Violent Behavior 7 (4): 313–201. doi:10.1016/S1359-1789(01)00061-1. edit
• ^ Adkins, Katie S. (2010). A Contextual Family Therapy Theory Explanation For Intimate Partner Violence. Doctoral Dissertation: Ohio State University.
• ^ Eades, Rebecca Ann (2003). Ambivalent sexism as a predictor of severity of domestic violence by male offenders (PhD thesis). University of Memphis. "Participants high in hostile sexism, paired with either low or high benevolent sexism, had significantly higher risk for offending against a family member in the upcoming year."
• ^ Dugan, L.; Nagin, D. S.; Rosenfeld, R. (1999). "Explaining the Decline in Intimate Partner Homicide: The Effects of Changing Domesticity, Women's Status, and Domestic Violence Resources". Homicide Studies 3 (3): 187.doi:10.1177/1088767999003003001. edit
• ^ http://nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/ostafjells/buskerud/1.8259684
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[edit]Bibliography

• References examining assaults by women on their spouses or male partners: an annotated bibliography by Martin S. Fiebert (Archived at WebCite)
• The Geography of Genital Mutilations (Archived at WebCite)

[edit]External links

• The invisible domestic violence – against men (Archived at WebCite)
• A Hidden Crime: Domestic Violence Against Men Is a Growing Problem (Archived at WebCite)
• Doris Lessing attacks feminists (Archived at WebCite)

 

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Misandry (pron.: /mɪˈsændri/) is the hatred or dislike of men, the hatred of maleness; it typically does not refer to a hatred of individuals but of men as a group or class.[1][2][3]

Contents [hide]

1 Origin

2 In literature

2.1 Ancient Greek literature

2.2 Literary criticism

3 Comparisons with other forms of discrimination

4 Instances

5 Wendy McElroy

6 Criticism of use of the word "misandry"

7 See also

8 References

9 Further reading

10 External links

[edit]Origin

 

The word Misandry can be traced back to at least 1871, when it was used in the Spectator magazine [4] [5]. It appeared in Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary (11th ed.) in 1952. Misandry is formed from the Greek misos (μῖσος, "hatred") and anēr, andros (ἀνήρ, gen. ἀνδρός; "man")[6].

[edit]In literature

 

[edit]Ancient Greek literature

Classics professor Froma Zeitlin of Princeton University discussed misandry in her article titled "Patterns of Gender in Aeschylean Drama: Seven against Thebes and the Danaid Trilogy."[7] She writes:

The most significant point of contact, however, between Eteocles and the suppliant Danaids is, in fact, their extreme positions with regard to the opposite sex: the misogyny of Eteocles' outburst against all women of whatever variety (Se. 181-202) has its counterpart in the seeming misandry of the Danaids, who although opposed to their Egyptian cousins in particular (marriage with them is incestuous, they are violent men) often extend their objections to include the race of males as a whole and view their cause as a passionate contest between the sexes (cf. Su. 29, 393, 487, 818, 951).[7]

[edit]Literary criticism

In his book, Gender and Judaism: The Transformation of Tradition, Harry Brod, a Professor of Philosophy and Humanities in the Department of Philosophy and Religion at the University of Northern Iowa, writes:

In the introduction to The Great Comic Book Heroes, Jules Feiffer writes that this is Superman's joke on the rest of us. Clark is Superman's vision of what other men are really like. We are scared, incompetent, and powerless, particularly around women. Though Feiffer took the joke good-naturedly, a more cynical response would see here the Kryptonian's misanthropy, his misandry embodied in Clark and his misogyny in his wish that Lois be enamored of Clark (much like Oberon takes out hostility toward Titania by having her fall in love with an ass in Shakespeare's Midsummer-Night's Dream).[8]

Julie M. Thompson, a feminist author, connects misandry with envy of men, in particular "penis envy," a term coined by Sigmund Freud in 1908, in his theory of female sexual development.[9]

[edit]Comparisons with other forms of discrimination

 

In 1999, masculist writer Warren Farrell compared the dehumanizing stereotyping of men to the dehumanization of the Vietnamese people as "gooks."[10]

In the past quarter century, we exposed biases against other races and called it racism, and we exposed biases against women and called it sexism. Biases against men we call humor.

—Warren Farrell, Women Can't Hear What Men Don't Say

Religious Studies professors Paul Nathanson and Katherine Young made similar comparisons in their 2001, three-book series Beyond the Fall of Man,[11] which treats misandry as a form of prejudice and discrimination that has become institutionalized in North American society.

In the 2007 book International Encyclopedia of Men and Masculinities, Marc A. Ouellette directly contrasted misandry and misogyny, arguing that "misandry lacks the systemic, transhistoric, institutionalized, and legislated antipathy of misogyny."[12] Anthropologist David D. Gilmore argues that while misogyny is a "near-universal phenomenon" there is no male equivalent to misogyny. He writes:

Man hating among women has no popular name because it has never (at least not until recently) achieved apotheosis as a social fact, that is, it has never been ratified into public, culturally recognized and approved institutions (...) As a cultural institution, misogyny therefore seems to stand alone as a gender-based phobia, unreciprocated.[13]

Gilmore also states that neologisms like misandry refer "not to the hatred of men as men, but to the hatred of men's traditional male role" and a "culture of machismo". Therefore, he argues, misandry is "different from the intensely ad feminam aspect of misogyny that targets women no matter what they believe or do".[13]

[edit]Instances

 

Academic Alice Echols, in her 1989 book Daring To Be Bad: Radical Feminism in America, 1967–1975, argued that radical feminist Valerie Solanas, best known for her attempted murder of Andy Warhol in 1968, displayed an extreme level of misandry compared to other radical feminists of the time in her tract, The SCUM Manifesto. Echols stated,

Solanas's unabashed misandry—especially her belief in men's biological inferiority—her endorsement of relationships between 'independent women,' and her dismissal of sex as 'the refuge of the mindless' contravened the sort of radical feminism which prevailed in most women's groups across the country.[14]

The text contains aspects of Freudian psychoanalytical theory: the biological accident, the incomplete sex and "penis envy" which became "pussy envy."[15][16] Solanas was later diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia and depression; some observers think she was suffering from these illnesses at the time of her writing.[17][18][19]

Paul Nathanson and Katherine K. Young argued that "ideological feminism" has imposed misandry on culture.[20] Their 2001 book, Spreading Misandry, analyzed "pop cultural artifacts and productions from the 1990s" from movies to greeting cards for what they considered to be pervasive messages of hatred toward men. Legalizing Misandry (2005), the second in the series, gave similar attention to laws in North America.

In 2002, pundit Charlotte Hays wrote "that the anti-male philosophy of radical feminism has filtered into the culture at large is incontestable; indeed, this attitude has become so pervasive that we hardly notice it any longer".[21]

Sociologist Anthony Synnott argues that the reality of misandry is undeniable when one looks to cultural, academic, and media depictions of men. He states that "misandry is everywhere, culturally acceptable, even normative, largely invisible, taught directly and indirectly by men and women, blind to reality, very damaging and dangerous to men and women in different ways and de-humanizing."[22] He also criticizes modern scholarship on men as "dehumanizing" and lacking in awareness of statistical reality.

[edit]Wendy McElroy

 

Main article: Wendy McElroy

Wendy McElroy, an individualist feminist,[23] wrote in 2001 that some feminists "have redefined the view of the movement of the opposite sex as "a hot anger toward men seems to have turned into a cold hatred."[24] She argued it was a misandrist position to consider men, as a class, to be irreformable or rapists. McElroy stated "a new ideology has come to the forefront... radical or gender, feminism," one that has "joined hands with [the] political correctness movement that condemns the panorama of western civilization as sexist and racist: the product of 'dead white males'."[25]

[edit]Criticism of use of the word "misandry"

 

In his 1997 book The Gender Knot: Unraveling Our Patriarchal Legacy, sociologist Allan G. Johnson stated that accusations of man-hating have been used to put down feminists and shift attention onto men in a way that reinforces male-centered culture.[2] Johnson said that comparisons between misogyny and misandry are misguided because mainstream culture offers no comparable anti-male ideology. He says in his book that accusations of misandry work to discredit feminism because "people often confuse men as individuals with men as a dominant and privileged category of people."[2] He wrote that given the "reality of women's oppression, male privilege, and men's enforcement of both, it's hardly surprising that every woman should have moments where she resents or even hates 'men'."[2]

[edit]See also

 

Sexism

"Boys are stupid, throw rocks at them!"

Female chauvinism

Men's movement

Men's rights

Misogyny

Esther Vilar

Violence against men

Androphobia

[edit]References

 

^ Gilmore, David D. (2011). Misogyny: The Male Malady. University of Pennsylvania Press. p. 12. ISBN 0812200322.

^ a b c d Johnson, Alan G. (2005). The Gender Knot: Unraveling Our Patriarchal Legacy (2, revised ed.). Temple University Press. p. 107. ISBN 1592133843.

^ Synnott, Anthony (2009). Re-Thinking Men: Heroes, Villains and Victims. Ashgate Publishing. p. 262. ISBN 1409491951.

^ Review of novel “Blanche Seymour” The Spectator, London, Apr.1, 1871, p.359]

^ The Unknown History of MISANDRY http://unknownmisandry.blogspot.ca/2011/02/misandry-word-its-origin.html

^ Oxford Dictionaries http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/misandry

^ a b Zeitlin, Froma I. Patterns of Gender in Aeschylean Drama: Seven against Thebes and the Danaid Trilogy (PDF). Retrieved 2007-12-21.More than one of |author= and |last= specified (help) Princeton University, paper given at the Department of Classics, University of California, Berkeley

^ Gender and Judaism: The Transformation of Tradition, Harry Brod

^ Emphasis added. Julie M. Thompson, Mommy Queerest: Contemporary Rhetorics of Lesbian Maternal Identity, (Amherst: University of Massachusetts Press, 2002).

^ Farrell, Warren (1999). Women Can't Hear What Men Don't Say. New York: Tarcher. ISBN 1-58542-061-1.

^ (Nathanson & Young 2001, pp. 4–6) "The same problem that long prevented mutual respect between Jews and Christians, the teaching of contempt, now prevents mutual respect between men and women."

^ Flood, Michael, ed. (2007-07-18). International Encyclopedia of Men and Masculinities. et al. London; New York: Routledge. ISBN 0-415-33343-1.

^ a b Gilmore, David G. "Misogyny: The Male Malady". Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania Press, 2009, pp. 10-13, ISBN 978-0-8122-1770-4.

^ Echols, Nicole. "Daring to Be Bad: Radical Feminism in America, 1967-1975". Minneapolis: University of Minnesota Press, 1989, pp. 104-105, ISBN 978-0-8166-1786-9.

^ Castro, Ginette. "American Feminism: A Contemporary History". New York: New York University Press, 1990, p. 73, ISBN 978-0-8147-1435-5.

^ Smith, Patricia Juliana. "The Queer Sixties". New York: Routledge, 1999, p. 68, ISBN 978-0-415-92168-8.

^ Valerie Jean Solanas (1936-88) The Guardian

^ Bockris, Victor. Warhol: The Biography. Da Capo Press (2003) ISBN 0-306-81272-X

^ Harron and Minahan. I Shot Andy Warhol. Grove Press (1996) ISBN 0-8021-3491-2

^ (Nathanson & Young 2001, p. xiv) "[ideological feminism,] one form of feminism—one that has had a great deal of influence, whether directly or indirectly, on both popular culture and elite culture—is profoundly misandric".

^ Hays, Charlotte. 'The Worse Half.' National Review 11 March 2002.

^ Why Some People Have Issues With Men: Misandry, Psychology Today, October 6, 2010

^ The Independent Institute

^ (McElroy 2001, p. 5)

^ (McElroy 2001, pp. 4–6)

[edit]Further reading

 

Sommers, Christina Hoff (1995) [First published 1994]. Who Stole Feminism: How Women Have Betrayed Women. Simon & Schuster. ISBN [[special:BookSources/0-684-80156-8|0-684-80156-8 [[Category:Articles with invalid ISBNs]]]] Check |isbn= value (help).

Farrell, Warren (2001) [First published 1993]. The Myth of Male Power: Why Men Are the Disposable Sex. Berkley Trade. ISBN 0-425-18144-8.

Ferguson, Frances; Bloch, R. Howard (1989). Misogyny, Misandry, and Misanthropy. Berkeley: University of California Press. ISBN 0-520-06546-8.

Levine, Judith (1992). My Enemy, My Love: Man-Hating and Ambivalence in Women's Lives. Da Capo Press. ISBN 1-56025-568-4.

McElroy, Wendy (2001). Sexual Correctness: The Gender-Feminist Attack on Women. Harper Paperbacks. New York: McFarland & Company. ISBN [[special:BookSources/0-7864-1144-3|0-7864-1144-3 [[Category:Articles with invalid ISBNs]]]] Check |isbn= value (help)

Nathanson, Paul; Young, Katherine R. (2001). Spreading Misandry: The Teaching of Contempt for Men in Popular Culture. Harper Paperbacks. Montreal: McGill-Queen's University Press. ISBN 0-7735-3099-1

Nathanson, Paul; Young, Katherine R. (2006). Legalizing Misandry: From Public Shame to Systemic Discrimination Against Men. Montreal: McGill-Queen's University Press. ISBN 0-7735-2862-8

Schwartz, Howard (2003). The Revolt of the Primitive: An Inquiry into the Roots of Political Correctness (Revised ed.). Transaction Publishers. ISBN 0-7658-0537-5.

[edit]External links

 

Bailée, Susan; Sommers, Christina Hoff (2001). "Misandry in the Classroom". The Hudson Review (The Hudson Review, Inc.) 54 (1): 148–54. doi:10.2307/3852834. JSTOR 3852834. "My rough-and-tumble first grader, Mark, came home from school yesterday and nonchalantly told me a story about his day that set me shivering"

Leader, Richard (2007). "Misandry: From the Dictionary of Fools". Adonis Mirror. Retrieved 2007-12-28. article critical of the use of the term

Wilson, Robert Anton (April 1996). "Androphobia: The only respectable bigotry". The Backlash!. Shameless Men Press. Retrieved 2007-12-28.

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