Transgender

the main thing is to treat people witn compassion and dignity and recognize that we are all suffering, some people more than most. If you meet anyone, be it a trans person or a joe schmoe, be good, listen and reach out, find ways to connect and love each other because without that out hearts wither.

Be the Light that radiates unconditional Love and have Fun:)

Edited July 1, 2018 by darreichungsform

  On 7/1/2018 at 1:39 PM, Salvatorin said:

the main thing is to treat people witn compassion and dignity and recognize that we are all suffering, some people more than most. If you meet anyone, be it a trans person or a joe schmoe, be good, listen and reach out, find ways to connect and love each other because without that out hearts wither.

Qft, beautiful

do whatever you want unless it hurts someone else. i have always lived by this simple teaching and if people feel happier changing gender they should be free to have that choice. 

also flip the penis inside out like a sock. 

plenty of times things need to be done that could potentially hurt others (by your philosophy, can a boss fire a employee?)

 

edit: placing compassion as the highest moral value sure sounds fine and dandy but if you think about it for like 15 minutes you realize is a preposterous and useless proposition

Edited July 1, 2018 by MIXL2

You don't think you should try to treat people with compassion?

Please do go on.

  On 7/1/2018 at 8:59 PM, Braintree said:

You don't think you should try to treat people with compassion?

 

how do you draw that conclusion from what I wrote? I said it shouldn't be your highest moral value, not that it wasn't a value

 

edit: i realized I meant value, not virtue

Edited July 1, 2018 by MIXL2

  On 7/1/2018 at 10:23 PM, MIXL2 said:

 

  On 7/1/2018 at 8:59 PM, Braintree said:

You don't think you should try to treat people with compassion?

 

how do you draw that conclusion from what I wrote? I said it shouldn't be your highest moral value, not that it wasn't a value

 

edit: i realized I meant value, not virtue

 

 

 

Then what does that have to do with anything? You keep changing your argument and that's a logical fallacy.

 

Salvatorin said this:

 

  On 7/1/2018 at 1:39 PM, Salvatorin said:

the main thing is to treat people witn compassion

 

And then your reply was this:

 

  On 7/1/2018 at 3:29 PM, MIXL2 said:

edit: placing compassion as the highest moral value sure sounds fine and dandy but if you think about it for like 15 minutes you realize is a preposterous and useless proposition

 

You're basically saying that compassion is unreasonable. 

 

So what is your point? Because it sounds like you're trying to use a special case in order to justify your ill regard for compassion.

 

 <----You're this guy right now

my point is it isn't "the main thing"

->???what's da main thing???<-

truth trumps compassion imho

 

edit: nwae, let's not derail this thread again srry

Edited July 1, 2018 by MIXL2

Nvm

Edited July 2, 2018 by sheathe

tucker carlson brings in an expert on all things "liberal" to explain the paradox of 'theybies' i.e. gender neutral babies

 

https://youtu.be/b0XgstUgJF0

  On 7/2/2018 at 4:17 AM, sheathe said:

Nvm

 

http://www.kxii.com/content/news/g-490684481.html

yo just fyi that link you posted is straight up cancer

just tell the kids to kick ass in bathroom

:(

interesting ted talk by transgender. 15 mins well spent

 

  On 8/15/2018 at 1:40 AM, goDel said:

interesting ted talk by transgender. 15 mins well spent

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrYx7HaUlMY

cheers, great vid

 

edit: there's an extra layer of complexity here but im not sure how it maps out onto these ideas.. i have lived that very experience she describes on the plane as a male but i believe it had to do with me not being a very "manly" male and being relatively agreeable... in fact all of the examples she gave I could envisage being lived by an agreeable male.

 

and so im curious as to how much of what is commonly known as male privilege has to do exclusively with being male and/or having more disagreeable/assertive personality traits..

Edited August 15, 2018 by MIXL2

  On 8/14/2018 at 10:54 PM, Nebraska said:

 

http://www.kxii.com/content/news/g-490684481.html

 

anyway these people need to get their asses kicked

  On 8/15/2018 at 2:03 AM, MIXL2 said:

 

  On 8/15/2018 at 1:40 AM, goDel said:

interesting ted talk by transgender. 15 mins well spent

 

cheers, great vid

 

edit: there's an extra layer of complexity here but im not sure how it maps out onto these ideas.. i have lived that very experience she describes on the plane as a male but i believe it had to do with me not being a very "manly" male and being relatively agreeable... in fact all of the examples she gave I could envisage being lived by an agreeable male.

 

and so im curious as to how much of what is commonly known as male privilege has to do exclusively with being male and/or having more disagreeable/assertive personality traits..

 

 

likely has something to do with that. but in her example, she clearly was being disagreeable and didn't "get away with it". so there's more than just the agreeable/disagreeable aspect. you are allowed to be more disagreeable if you're a man, it seems. but i'd rather stay away from jp-like arguments here at watmm. nothing good will come of it.

 

also, i disagree because i'm a man ;)

to me the transwoman in the video seems like an actor. very stilted and while you would say she is authentic if you knew that she is a theater actor I would call her appearance inauthentic as an actual person. I can't describe it but she constantly seems like disguising her voice to a higher pitch, reciting a well rehearsed speech and acting like a caricature of a women. don't get me wrong, I have no problem with it at all and she makes some excellent points about gender inequality/inequity. but it's a bit weird to watch a person that appears so fake talking about the "call of authenticity"