Changes of Heart You've Had About Music

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Edited July 4, 2013 by murphythecat8

when I was in school I studied to be a jazz musician

 

then I rejected jazz as being stagnant and futureless

 

then I realized that my jazz education was a useful set of skills for making electronic music

 

then I stopped seeing a difference between the two

Edited July 4, 2013 by LimpyLoo

lyrics are fucking horrible. i can barely tolerate vocals in music, and i'm actually pretty tired of the arbitrary rock band format. i'm receding further into being an asshole who only listens to electronic music, and it's mostly ok. also really fucking tired of rap. i can't believe there's people who care about "the state of hip hop". blows my mind.

When I was first getting into experimental electronic music, I went through a IDM/dnb/jungle/breakcore phase, only to realize a year later how corny the majority of it was, especially the beats. In regards to breakcore and "drill n bass", I guess there was a novelty to how abrasive it all was, for not being metal music, which I thought was cool at the time. Now I can only be bothered to listen to Autechre, select AFX songs, BOC, and a couple other artists. Breakcore is pretty embarrassing.

 

I originally didn't understand what people saw in music like Thomas Koner's, and then I got it and came to love it.

 

I used to like some indie rock, such as The Arcade Fire, Deerhoof and Deerhunter, then realized it was shit. Now it makes me uncomfortable to think about how I liked that stuff.

the last deerhunter album really sealed the deal on my total hatred of indie rock. with a few exceptions (the microphones, kurt vile, the national) i basically can't listen to anything that falls under the "indie" umbrella. the most annoying thing about that deerhunter album was the song "pensacola", which is this down home southern rock piece of cheese, but for some reason the pisspoor lyrics and terrible music are acceptable because it's deerhunter. any other band would get crucified playing shit like that.

Wow, interesting to hear breakcore being an embarrassing past love for some. I don't think anyone should be embarrassed of any music they liked.

I was into electronic music for as long as I can remember, I remember hearing "children" by Robert Miles and being completely mystified by it when I was like 4 or 5... later on I got into Trance and accidentally found out that that one song was Trance and started surfing on related youtube searches and stuff until i found this video.

 

From there I started searching like a maniac for more and more obscure music, and of course found out about breakcore, speedcore, noise, jungle and all that stuff. Then I got into ambient and dark ambient and so on.

 

My library it's like a mash up of complete opposites of the electronic music spectrum I will shuffle trough it and find myself listening to Merzbow after SAW1 and stuff, it's pretty sick.

 

I don't really know where to go from here, I guess I will reach the bottom of the barrel at some point.

 

Right now I find all pop shit and I hate by definition (almost) all music with singers on it.

Edited July 5, 2013 by MIXL2

Used to hate really dancefloor friendly stuff, as in repetitive 4/4 rhythm shit like techno. But over the last few years as I've been going out more and more I've come to really appreciate music with groove and repetition and a slower build. I just keep a separation in my head for 'headphone' music and 'speaker music. Obviously there's crossover, but I'm more likely to blast a solid grooving track out loud with the bass up, partially because it's more fun, partially for the sake of any people that might be nearby.

Plus when I'm at a club I couldn't stand there chin stroking. Breakcore can be funny but after five minutes it's fucking retarded pretending you can dance to that nonsense in a live context.

  On 7/5/2013 at 1:04 AM, zaphod said:

lyrics are fucking horrible. i can barely tolerate vocals in music

A decade (or so) I was exactly this until I was denying myself of some beautiful stuff. For me it still needs to be the right vocalist, I see it akin to just an additional instrument - like how a track would annoy me if a synth was completely out of place, if the vocals don't sit well within the track then that too annoys me. Some beauties from a previous vocals hater -

 

  On 7/5/2013 at 1:04 AM, zaphod said:

lyrics are fucking horrible. i can barely tolerate vocals in music

THIS

 

edit: sorry mcbpete didn't see your answer. As to why it is like this I simply don't like the sound of human voices over music, it ruins it for me.

Edited July 5, 2013 by MIXL2

  On 7/5/2013 at 1:55 AM, usagi said:

 

  On 7/5/2013 at 1:04 AM, Tauhid said:

When I was first getting into experimental electronic music, I went through a IDM/dnb/jungle/breakcore phase, only to realize a year later how corny the majority of it was, especially the beats. In regards to breakcore and "drill n bass", I guess there was a novelty to how abrasive it all was, for not being metal music, which I thought was cool at the time. Now I can only be bothered to listen to Autechre, select AFX songs, BOC, and a couple other artists. Breakcore is pretty embarrassing.

 

Vsnares was my one and only flirtation with creakbore.

 

All music styles are filled with shit, i don't see what's embarrassing about breakcore, people like datachi, venetian snares and phtalocyanine made amazing records.

Afx's Drukqs is also infested with breakcore and that's one of the best albums if not the best album ever. Good music is good music

  On 7/5/2013 at 12:55 PM, Ivan Ooze said:

 

  On 7/5/2013 at 1:55 AM, usagi said:

 

  On 7/5/2013 at 1:04 AM, Tauhid said:

When I was first getting into experimental electronic music, I went through a IDM/dnb/jungle/breakcore phase, only to realize a year later how corny the majority of it was, especially the beats. In regards to breakcore and "drill n bass", I guess there was a novelty to how abrasive it all was, for not being metal music, which I thought was cool at the time. Now I can only be bothered to listen to Autechre, select AFX songs, BOC, and a couple other artists. Breakcore is pretty embarrassing.

 

Vsnares was my one and only flirtation with creakbore.

 

All music styles are filled with shit, i don't see what's embarrassing about breakcore, people like datachi, venetian snares and phtalocyanine made amazing records.

Afx's Drukqs is also infested with breakcore and that's one of the best albums if not the best album ever. Good music is good music

 

Breakcore is awesome i made a mix of some tunes, love me some chopped up amens n' gabber kicks.

  On 7/5/2013 at 12:50 PM, MIXL2 said:

 

  On 7/5/2013 at 1:04 AM, zaphod said:

lyrics are fucking horrible. i can barely tolerate vocals in music

THIS

 

edit: sorry mcbpete didn't see your answer. As to why it is like this I simply don't like the sound of human voices over music, it ruins it for me.

 

Omg i feel sorry for you guys, the human voice is a great instrument that can add a lot of emotion to songs. come one you never sing a song???

Vocals make or break music or me. Most of the time it breaks the music. What I really like is distorted vocals, or voice chopped into the sound as an instrument. Occasionally more traditional vocals work, but I prefer them not to overpower the music.

  On 7/5/2013 at 1:24 PM, Obel said:

Vocals make or break music or me. Most of the time it breaks the music. What I really like is distorted vocals, or voice chopped into the sound as an instrument. Occasionally more traditional vocals work, but I prefer them not to overpower the music.

 

 

  On 7/5/2013 at 12:30 PM, paranerd said:

Wow, interesting to hear breakcore being an embarrassing past love for some. I don't think anyone should be embarrassed of any music they liked.

 

I used to like Erasure.

I used to think "club music" (ala Tiesto et all) was shit, but then I listened to a lot of it cuz me girl was listening to it on drives. So now I can feel it definitely has a purpose and vibe, and it's not bad when listened from that superficial, plastic point of view. From that, I realized that my taste in music, was just that-- if it didn't give me some vibe which I was primarily living by, I would consider it kind of shit, as if for some reason my vibez were more legit than others. Now I realize that's bullshit. So I definitely don't have as much "hatred" for certain types of music after realizing such things. ...but at the same time, when I hear some noize/bent live set, I'm still often like (with due general respect), "Dude- being 'weird' is not cool, and your sounds are not interesting. You're not saying anything or expressing anything." For a time I thought this might be too harsh, but then I watch videos of Richard Devine's sound experiments-- the difference in expressive quality is apparent.

 

But overall, mad respect to anyone who makes music. We can't all be awesome (correction: we don't all have the willpower to put in the time to be awesome).

  On 7/5/2013 at 1:03 PM, Ivan Ooze said:

 

  On 7/5/2013 at 12:50 PM, MIXL2 said:

 

  On 7/5/2013 at 1:04 AM, zaphod said:

lyrics are fucking horrible. i can barely tolerate vocals in music

THIS

 

edit: sorry mcbpete didn't see your answer. As to why it is like this I simply don't like the sound of human voices over music, it ruins it for me.

 

Omg i feel sorry for you guys, the human voice is a great instrument that can add a lot of emotion to songs. come one you never sing a song???

 

I like to whistle, and I like as Obel said, distorted vocals e.g Tomorrow's Harvest.

  On 7/5/2013 at 1:55 AM, usagi said:

 

  On 7/5/2013 at 1:04 AM, Tauhid said:

When I was first getting into experimental electronic music, I went through a IDM/dnb/jungle/breakcore phase, only to realize a year later how corny the majority of it was, especially the beats. In regards to breakcore and "drill n bass", I guess there was a novelty to how abrasive it all was, for not being metal music, which I thought was cool at the time. Now I can only be bothered to listen to Autechre, select AFX songs, BOC, and a couple other artists. Breakcore is pretty embarrassing.

 

Vsnares was my one and only flirtation with creakbore.

 

 

For me the more gimmicky it was the quicker I gave up on it. There are breakcore producers and there are those who make electronic music that's been labeled breakcore, and the latter are the ones I still listen to: DJ Rupture, Kid606, DJ Scotch Egg, old Alec Empire, some Bong-Ra, etc. Terminal11 and Xanopticon made very interesting stuff. There's so much more I just grew out of.

 

As for drill n bass and similar genres and offshoots of frantic beat IDM/electronic music I simply don't find it as appealing as often. It's been demystified (exceptions would be old Squarepusher and the RDJ Album) though I can never get sick of jungle and ragga d'n'b because it's so fun.

I used to think that people who diss "Licensed to Ill" were boring old farts. Now I think they are psychotic lunatics that need to be put on medication.

  On 7/5/2013 at 1:04 AM, Tauhid said:

I used to like some indie rock, such as The Arcade Fire, Deerhoof and Deerhunter, then realized it was shit. Now it makes me uncomfortable to think about how I liked that stuff.

 

Uncomfortable is too strong a word for me. I can't say that about even the cheesiest and most godawful music I listened to in retrospect. Music appeals to people for a reason. If some unfortunate soul finds comfort and gains sincere enjoyment from only pop country music or nu-metal or some shit, then good on them. I'll find it funny and even absurd but I can't judge them simply for not being as passionate or curious about music as myself.. I only get mad when those who are ignorant about music try to diss others or speak with authority (i.e. every old guy who likes classic rock and says music now sucks on youtube comments).

 

I listened those same three bands a lot - I still like Arcade Fire. I loved old Deerhunter but find their new stuff pretty meh. Deerhoof I enjoyed but it's also a band I listened to simply because I wanted to seem cool in college (I've outgrown that). Basically I've moved on from all three, but that won't negate my love for the old albums. Hell I know people who were huge, huge fans of Smashing Pumpkins and Green Day back in the day who don't even bother with the new stuff at all. They still cherish the old albums though.

 

Rock music in general, regardless of the style or popularity, is extremely dependent on emotional attachment. I can never unlove albums I listened to and grew to love in the past, even if now I would probably not listen to them with as much interest or care. I love R.E.M. because my dad played it all the time when I was a kid I started listening to their old albums even more than he ever did. I wouldn't fall in love with that band now they were introduced to me. That band has a huge personal context for me. I think a lot people don't exactly choose bands they fall in love with, it just happens. Especially before the internet people would by default become loyal fans of certain bands because they were randomly recommended an album by a friend, heard a song on college radio, or were suggested a release by a record store clerk.

 

In summary, genres electronic or instrumental music is easily for me to forget and begin to dislike: I used to listen to trance and I also tried listening to really "indie" bands for sake of pretentiousness. But I can't simply deny my love in the past for most rock and pop I listened to endlessly as a kid and teenager simply because I was unaware of better and more appealing music out there.

I was 13 when Licensed to I'll dropped, hahahah, theres no way on earth any of you would hate that album at age 14. No way! Lol.

Edited July 5, 2013 by beerwolf

I'm starting to get pretty bored with electronic music lately and have been going back to the old garage rock, blues and rockabilly stuff I grew up on.

Edited July 5, 2013 by luke viia

Im really getting into hardcore punk, especially the sludgy stuff that's coming out of it recently. Also starting to appreciate shorter releases like EP's, i used to ignore most EP's

  On 7/5/2013 at 8:57 PM, Danny O Flannagin said:

Im really getting into hardcore punk, especially the sludgy stuff that's coming out of it recently. Also starting to appreciate shorter releases like EP's, i used to ignore most EP's

 

 

We need to do a watmm punk thread. Been meaning to start on up for aeons. I don't think it would reach legendary proportions but still worthwhile I guess