mcbpete Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 Has anyone got examples of watermarked stuff - is there audible stuff, is there stuff in the 'above hearing frequency' range, is it to do with gap lengths between tracks? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79689-new-autechre-ep-l-event/page/24/#findComment-2067834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcofribas Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 it just means if you open it in a spectrum analyzer you see rdj's face Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79689-new-autechre-ep-l-event/page/24/#findComment-2067838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pixelives Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_watermarking Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79689-new-autechre-ep-l-event/page/24/#findComment-2067840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 That's not an example though is it my dear ! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79689-new-autechre-ep-l-event/page/24/#findComment-2067841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pixelives Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 I know quite a bit of people who work for larger independent labels or run their own and they all use it. One company they use is called haulix Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79689-new-autechre-ep-l-event/page/24/#findComment-2067977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RadarJammer Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) On 9/27/2013 at 3:28 PM, mcbpete said: Has anyone got examples of watermarked stuff - is there audible stuff, is there stuff in the 'above hearing frequency' range, is it to do with gap lengths between tracks? take a sample on a zero crossing and nudge it up as little as you can if you try and null it against the original it will look nulled unless you zoom in a bunch of magnitudes and you won't be able to find it easily unless you know which second of the song its in or you have some special software that tests audio files against eachother for sample level differences not sure how encoding would effect this but i'm sure someone with 10 minutes on their hands could find a clever way to water mark any quality mp3 or wav anyone can water mark their music effectively and quickly Edited September 28, 2013 by RadarJammer Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79689-new-autechre-ep-l-event/page/24/#findComment-2068051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 this is bullshit on a unrelated note, why hasn't this EP leaked yet? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79689-new-autechre-ep-l-event/page/24/#findComment-2068055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Ooze Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 i can't wait for everyone to review it after 1-2 listens with no epo Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Ivan Ooze's signature Hide all signatures On 2/26/2015 at 9:39 AM, RupturedSouls said: This drugs makes me feel like I'm on song! On 9/1/2014 at 5:50 PM, StephenG said: I'm hardly a closed minded nun. Remember, I'm on a fucking IDM forum.... an IDM forum.. Think about that for a second before claiming people are closed minded nuns. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79689-new-autechre-ep-l-event/page/24/#findComment-2068059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivy Zemura yvI oo ii oo Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 On 9/27/2013 at 3:28 PM, mcbpete said: Has anyone got examples of watermarked stuff - is there audible stuff, is there stuff in the 'above hearing frequency' range, is it to do with gap lengths between tracks? Watermarked spl9 that leaked before Exai just has some high pitched ringing in it about 2 minutes in. It's not even distinct really it's like they just put a 16khz band starting and stopping at a certain time. Easy to overcome Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79689-new-autechre-ep-l-event/page/24/#findComment-2068061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
futureimage Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 Are there any promos that are entirely phase inverted to the release master? Or is that too obvious? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide futureimage's signature Hide all signatures New Future Image album, Definite Complex, out now!FUTURE IMAGE RECORDS Future Image Definite ComplexIntelligent Dasein Sound Experiments #1papertiger harmonizing the seamsP/R/P/E The Speed of RevolutionWilliam S. Braintree This is StoryKaleid Machines Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79689-new-autechre-ep-l-event/page/24/#findComment-2068146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 ^ yea I was thinking this. basically take 2 same promo songs with unique watermarks, substract the difference between them from one of them, goodbye watermark. imo. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79689-new-autechre-ep-l-event/page/24/#findComment-2068187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyramidpanes Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 love ae currently listening to exai, but 'L-event' as a title is rly disturbing, lol i cant handle it Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79689-new-autechre-ep-l-event/page/24/#findComment-2068191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pixelives Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 I'm sure it wouldn't take much manipulation or time to get rid of a watermark. But wow, what an asshole move. Taking time out of your day to erase watermarks just so you can leak an album and fuck with an artist and their work and method of income. That is the opposite of being a fan and borders on sociopathic. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79689-new-autechre-ep-l-event/page/24/#findComment-2068449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
digit Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 (edited) damn, not this promo crap again. didn't we just go thru this recently? Warp has learned nothing. 1. designers republic mentions publicly that they have just started working on the artwork for a new autechre release. 2. 25 years of rabid & painful anticipation. 3. Warp sends promos of the release to random hipsters with music blogs. 4. 3 months of reading hipster tweets like "got this new promo from some band called 'autecker'. it's ok i guess. has some weird noises on it and also some beats". 5. album is finally released. 6. people who pre-ordered from Bleep get their cds/vinyl 12 years later. Edited September 29, 2013 by digit Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79689-new-autechre-ep-l-event/page/24/#findComment-2068465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 In short: who cares about leaking promos? Answer: nobody, but fanboys who preordered the ep from blerp Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79689-new-autechre-ep-l-event/page/24/#findComment-2068469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pixelives Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 On 9/29/2013 at 7:32 AM, goDel said: In short: who cares about leaking promos? Answer: nobody, but fanboys who preordered the ep from blerp Yeah artists totally don't care, at all. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79689-new-autechre-ep-l-event/page/24/#findComment-2068474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcofribas Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 On 9/29/2013 at 7:12 AM, digit said: damn, not this promo crap again. didn't we just go thru this recently? Warp has learned nothing. 1. designers republic mentions publicly that they have just started working on the artwork for a new autechre release. 2. 25 years of rabid & painful anticipation. 3. Warp sends promos of the release to random hipsters with music blogs. 4. 3 months of reading hipster tweets like "got this new promo from some band called 'autecker'. it's ok i guess. has some weird noises on it and also some beats". 5. album is finally released. 6. people who pre-ordered from Bleep get their cds/vinyl 12 years later. lol Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79689-new-autechre-ep-l-event/page/24/#findComment-2068478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivy Zemura yvI oo ii oo Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 So are L-Event promos out Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79689-new-autechre-ep-l-event/page/24/#findComment-2068479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 On 9/29/2013 at 7:55 AM, pixelives said: On 9/29/2013 at 7:32 AM, goDel said: In short: who cares about leaking promos? Answer: nobody, but fanboys who preordered the ep from blerp Yeah artists totally don't care, at all. Ok, the two lads plus some fanboys who preordered from blerp. My bad. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79689-new-autechre-ep-l-event/page/24/#findComment-2068482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soloman Tump Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 (edited) im gonna spend the next week dedicated to jazzing up my tumblr. Post loads of album reviews from bands you have not heard. I will also review uber cool gigs and namecheck some awesome new trainers. Ya know, just incase the promogods like my style plz worf plz x ps not preordered Edited September 29, 2013 by feltcher Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Soloman Tump's signature Hide all signatures https://intrusivesignals.blogspot.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79689-new-autechre-ep-l-event/page/24/#findComment-2068518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 On 9/29/2013 at 5:28 AM, pixelives said: I'm sure it wouldn't take much manipulation or time to get rid of a watermark. But wow, what an asshole move. Taking time out of your day to erase watermarks just so you can leak an album and fuck with an artist and their work and method of income. That is the opposite of being a fan and borders on sociopathic. personally i'm more interested in the process of doing it. if i had access to a promo i'd keep it to myself like fucking gl0tch would, printing out the PCM data in hex notation and wrap it around my dick. pls pls Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79689-new-autechre-ep-l-event/page/24/#findComment-2068588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
futureimage Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 On 9/29/2013 at 5:28 AM, pixelives said: I'm sure it wouldn't take much manipulation or time to get rid of a watermark. But wow, what an asshole move. Taking time out of your day to erase watermarks just so you can leak an album and fuck with an artist and their work and method of income. That is the opposite of being a fan and borders on sociopathic. Just to say I wasn't talking about using phase inversion to get rid of watermarks, merely has phase inversion ever been used as a "watermarking" process? It seems far to obvious to be done, but would be a dead easy way of making a promo master significantly different to the release master. Of course they can so easily be reversed too... :/ Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide futureimage's signature Hide all signatures New Future Image album, Definite Complex, out now!FUTURE IMAGE RECORDS Future Image Definite ComplexIntelligent Dasein Sound Experiments #1papertiger harmonizing the seamsP/R/P/E The Speed of RevolutionWilliam S. Braintree This is StoryKaleid Machines Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79689-new-autechre-ep-l-event/page/24/#findComment-2068622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rulohead32 Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 i nearly had a heart attack Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79689-new-autechre-ep-l-event/page/24/#findComment-2068677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 ELEVEL Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79689-new-autechre-ep-l-event/page/24/#findComment-2068679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeQYcJWNBz Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 i nearly had a fartattack Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79689-new-autechre-ep-l-event/page/24/#findComment-2068682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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