best monosynth-to-midi software?

It will not work on complicated waveforms, and the problem with it is that when you start using the filter the pitch will appear to be changing even though it isn't.

Maybe you can get it working on one waveform and it has to be simple, no modulation.

I would try use a pitch detector together with an envelope follower. But then Again envelope followers aren't that precise either

If it doesn't work on complicated waveforms that's just stupid. I think I'm gonna build my own app (someday haha) with analog synths in mind. With a Jen SX1000 preset. Yes, that's what I'm gonna do.

so you would like to use the JEN keyboard, and have essentially play the JEN and the MFB in unison, having pitch modulations in the JEM affect both synths' oscillators?

dunno man, forget about MIDI for this for a moment... if you really want to do this and achieve good results, imo the way to go would be to open up the JEM and

- find and tap the pitch control signal inside the JEM, post modulations, right before the oscillator, and appropriately scale it for the nanozwerg pitch CV so they can both be in tune

- do the same with the keyboard gate/trigger signal from the JEM, so you can play the nanozwerg envelopes from the JEM keyboard..

this could be a nice project if you have the time & resources to figure it out, but yeah, more success will probably be had by buying some other monosynth which has CV outputs (minibrute?).

I'm really not gonna open up my jen, except for a little mod I have in mind to mix the waveforms. I've got a feeling it should simply be possible in this way, and so I want to do it this way :P

it could be fiddly, but should work to some extend. latency might also be a problem, depending on your style of playing..

more free a-to-m things..

Junction

http://rekkerd.org/fretted-synth/

http://rekkerd.org/bin/frettedsynth/Junction.zip

Fretkeys

https://app.box.com/shared/7u4703b92y

Thanks for those links :) been thinking there probably was some guitar software for this.

Now that I come to think, you could use a comparator and a envelope follower! The comparator will take more advanced waveforms, then you take the output of the comparator with is a basic squarewave and run that into a offset generator and to the pitch detector

This way you will have realtime pitch and envelope, you could use another comparator or a min/max to generate a gate to the MFB

That's the best I can come up with.

I think the computer might be too slow to archieve this task, I mean with latency.

Maybe program the whole thing into an arduino box if you don't want to open the synth

oh by the way, the arduino has only got 5v max. on it's inputs, you would need 12v, so use a resistor and scale the whole thing afterwards.

If you buy a kit you will get a very good intro book.

You can get audio into the arduino so you should be able to do all this.

But getting a midi implant would be far easier, and you can spend your time making music instead of programming crap SW.

http://www.midimplant.com/

Doesn't get much easier than that!!!

  On 8/1/2013 at 1:36 PM, phling said:

so you would like to use the JEN keyboard, and have essentially play the JEN and the MFB in unison, having pitch modulations in the JEM affect both synths' oscillators?

 

dunno man, forget about MIDI for this for a moment... if you really want to do this and achieve good results, imo the way to go would be to open up the JEM and

- find and tap the pitch control signal inside the JEM, post modulations, right before the oscillator, and appropriately scale it for the nanozwerg pitch CV so they can both be in tune

- do the same with the keyboard gate/trigger signal from the JEM, so you can play the nanozwerg envelopes from the JEM keyboard..

 

this could be a nice project if you have the time & resources to figure it out, but yeah, more success will probably be had by buying some other monosynth which has CV outputs (minibrute?).

 

Sorry but I have to make a tiny comment on this, usually you will not be able to just take out the pitch, this will almost certainly ruin the pitch of the JEN it self as the signals will be unbuffered this way, you need to find a way to buffer output before the oscillator(s).

Maybe it will work if you tune it to one key or 3, but the spacing between the notes will not be correct over a larger number of octaves

You could try wiki "how to buffer a signal" or something

  On 8/1/2013 at 7:40 PM, acidbob said:

Now that I come to think, you could use a comparator and a envelope follower! The comparator will take more advanced waveforms, then you take the output of the comparator with is a basic squarewave and run that into a offset generator and to the pitch detector

 

This way you will have realtime pitch and envelope, you could use another comparator or a min/max to generate a gate to the MFB

 

That's the best I can come up with.

 

I think the computer might be too slow to archieve this task, I mean with latency.

Maybe program the whole thing into an arduino box if you don't want to open the synth

The analog way! Thanks a lot, I will look into it later.

been also thinking about doing it directly on the keys, btw

you could use one of those motion sensors and get velocity, even!

  On 8/1/2013 at 7:56 PM, acidbob said:

 

  On 8/1/2013 at 1:36 PM, phling said:

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Sorry but I have to make a tiny comment on this, usually you will not be able to just take out the pitch, this will almost certainly ruin the pitch of the JEN it self as the signals will be unbuffered this way, you need to find a way to buffer output before the oscillator(s).

 

Maybe it will work if you tune it to one key or 3, but the spacing between the notes will not be correct over a larger number of octaves

 

You could try wiki "how to buffer a signal" or something

 

ah thank you! this is actually very helpful advice for something which i plan doing... which is an individual output modification for the A4.

*shamelessly hi-jacks thread*

so I've had a look into mine and probed around a little, and i think i found good spots for tapping the voices pre-mixer (need to check again with better equipment though), but i didn't know what to google for, in regards to what type of amp circuit i'd need to tap the signals without interfering with them. so voltage buffer amps is what i need. great!

No luck with Junction or Fretkeys. I did notice that Image Line's Pitcher (which is a sort of auto-tune vst that came with FL studio) recognizes notes almost flawlessly. It doesn't have midi output, though :P

I couldn't find Synodeia 2 anywhere, unfortunately.