Joyrex Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 MGMT is pissing me off more and more with this avant-garde hipster bullshit attitude - they refuse to play Kids in live sets, despite the fact the song is what made them famous, and their new shit isn't that great (they even say sarcastically they're not even sure if they would listen to it). http://www.theatlanticwire.com/entertainment/2013/09/mgmt-too-cool-play-hit-song-live/69304/ Go home, MGMT - your time has passed. BCM 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Follow WATMM on Twitter: @WATMMOfficial Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80496-mgmt-is-too-cool-to-play-their-hits/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 dont they have other hits though? how often does Radiohead still play Creep, btw? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide SR4's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80496-mgmt-is-too-cool-to-play-their-hits/#findComment-2061714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cult fiction Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 Quote Update: A sleuthy reader notes that after dropping the song from their setlist in the spring and early summer, the band seems to have begun performing it again in recent weeks, according to setlist.fm. Guess we'll see if that lasts. Anyway, I'm sure people are so thrilled to hear the brilliance of Your Life is a Lie that they don't care about Kids. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80496-mgmt-is-too-cool-to-play-their-hits/#findComment-2061720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted September 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 On 9/12/2013 at 4:56 PM, cult fiction said: Quote Update: A sleuthy reader notes that after dropping the song from their setlist in the spring and early summer, the band seems to have begun performing it again in recent weeks, according to setlist.fm. Guess we'll see if that lasts. Anyway, I'm sure people are so thrilled to hear the brilliance of Your Life is a Lie that they don't care about Kids. I personally don't care for "Your Life is a Lie" - and the album in general has been getting very mixed reviews. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Follow WATMM on Twitter: @WATMMOfficial Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80496-mgmt-is-too-cool-to-play-their-hits/#findComment-2061758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubin Farr Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 They had hits? Lol Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Positive Metal Attitude Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80496-mgmt-is-too-cool-to-play-their-hits/#findComment-2061764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadameChaos Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 LOL! oh dear Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80496-mgmt-is-too-cool-to-play-their-hits/#findComment-2061782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
baph Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 TOO COOL 2 PLAY OWN HITS - POOR GUYS GIVE THEM A SWEATER OR SOMETHIGN GHYPOTHERMIA IS NO LAUFGHONG MATTAR manmower 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80496-mgmt-is-too-cool-to-play-their-hits/#findComment-2061783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plarkreluke Banloboh Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 COME ON U CUNTS LETS HAVE SOME MGMT PSYCHE-POP!! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80496-mgmt-is-too-cool-to-play-their-hits/#findComment-2061787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 I really don't understand why they are getting flak for this; almost every major artist I can think of has at least had a period where they refused to play songs from other albums. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide SR4's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80496-mgmt-is-too-cool-to-play-their-hits/#findComment-2061815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerwolf Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 Can't quite get to grips with this band, not really sure what the deal is with them, and to be quite honest I'm not sure I really care. Ho hum. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80496-mgmt-is-too-cool-to-play-their-hits/#findComment-2061863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Ooze Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 how dare they not play that song, we only heard it millions of times and it's so brilliant omg fuck everyone who experiments with music, bunch of avant-garde hipster bullshit hippies cruising for burgers 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Ivan Ooze's signature Hide all signatures On 2/26/2015 at 9:39 AM, RupturedSouls said: This drugs makes me feel like I'm on song! On 9/1/2014 at 5:50 PM, StephenG said: I'm hardly a closed minded nun. Remember, I'm on a fucking IDM forum.... an IDM forum.. Think about that for a second before claiming people are closed minded nuns. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80496-mgmt-is-too-cool-to-play-their-hits/#findComment-2061867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerwolf Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 I remember a mate of mine who's into Radiohead, who went to see them live. He told me they were complete and utter shit because they played no songs he recognised. What a cock. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80496-mgmt-is-too-cool-to-play-their-hits/#findComment-2061870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBLA Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 I know who they are... but I've never heard a lick of their music. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide QBLA's signature Hide all signatures BONDING TAPES JOYFUL UNION CASSETTE BLOG ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80496-mgmt-is-too-cool-to-play-their-hits/#findComment-2061871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zaphod Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 On 9/12/2013 at 9:24 PM, beerwolf said: Can't quite get to grips with this band, not really sure what the deal is with them, and to be quite honest I'm not sure I really care. Ho hum. great post kids wasn't their only hit, and i feel this is fairly common practice. i personally like that they're trying to alienate the teen fanbase they have. congratulations was a cool album, kind of a nice overview of disparate 70s influences. what i've heard of the new one is pretty weird. i'm excited when a band takes a left turn like this, they could have easily made two more oracular spectaculars. pretty weird to criticize them for this on a board devoted to relatively experimental music. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80496-mgmt-is-too-cool-to-play-their-hits/#findComment-2061873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerwolf Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 Yes left turns are always good, even if they don't turn out as classics it at least shows guts. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80496-mgmt-is-too-cool-to-play-their-hits/#findComment-2061875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
J3FF3R00 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 (edited) FYI, When I saw them at FYF a few weeks ago, they totally played "Kids" Setlist: Alien Days Time to Pretend Introspection (Faine Jade cover) Weekend Wars Your Life Is a Lie (Joined by Henry Winkler on cowbell) Electric Feel Mystery Disease Siberian Breaks Kids I LOVE "Your Life Is A Lie". I hadn't seen the video for it until after seeing them play it live w/ the fonz. I believe you posted that video, didn't you, Joyrex? That video is amazing. Such an infectious riff. It gets stuck in my head like crazy. On 9/12/2013 at 4:41 PM, Joyrex said: MGMT is pissing me off more and more with this avant-garde hipster bullshit attitude - they refuse to play Kids in live sets, despite the fact the song is what made them famous, and their new shit isn't that great (they even say sarcastically they're not even sure if they would listen to it). http://www.theatlanticwire.com/entertainment/2013/09/mgmt-too-cool-play-hit-song-live/69304/ Go home, MGMT - your time has passed. Sorry, Papa :( I didn't know you liked Kids THAT much. I do know you are a fan and still have a lot of love for them deep down. I can tell. I also know you'll be grabbing that new joint as soon as it drops, no matter what (I know I will). Don't front. I personally thought Congratulations was the bees knees. edit The article also says at the end... Quote Update: A sleuthy reader notes that after dropping the song from their setlist in the spring and early summer, the band seems to have begun performing it again in recent weeks, according to setlist.fm. Guess we'll see if that lasts. Looks like you don't have to burn your MGMT underoos after all! On 9/12/2013 at 6:53 PM, wabby said: COME ON U CUNTS LETS HAVE SOME MGMT PSYCHE-POP!! :emotawesomepm9: Edited September 12, 2013 by J3FF3R00 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide J3FF3R00's signature Hide all signatures 666 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80496-mgmt-is-too-cool-to-play-their-hits/#findComment-2061876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 (edited) Do they refuse to play "Kids" because they are tired of it...sorta like Lou Reed and "Walk On The Wild Side" or Radiohead and "Creep" as mentioned in the article.* If I was them I'd probably remix and/or re-arrange it and play that live as a compromise. Live expectations for "hit songs" are funny things - personally I wouldn't want it to sound "exactly the same" at all, at least for a song that slick and produced sounding. I want live songs to sound live. * while good imo, they are neither Lou Reed nor Radiohead by any means Edited September 12, 2013 by joshuatx Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide joshuatxuk's signature Hide all signatures Tape Escape! Aural Canyon Wood Between Worlds Tapes [joshuatxuk-is-dead] Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80496-mgmt-is-too-cool-to-play-their-hits/#findComment-2061883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted September 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 On 9/12/2013 at 7:39 PM, SR4 said: I really don't understand why they are getting flak for this; almost every major artist I can think of has at least had a period where they refused to play songs from other albums. Oh, they're just getting flak because not only is their new album another departure from the Oracular Spectacular formula, but it's getting mixed reviews to boot. I can't really blame them for not wanting to play Kids, but if the fans want to hear it (and they are performing for the fans), they should at least give the fans what they want since it's a paid performance. On 9/12/2013 at 9:37 PM, zaphod said: On 9/12/2013 at 9:24 PM, beerwolf said: Can't quite get to grips with this band, not really sure what the deal is with them, and to be quite honest I'm not sure I really care. Ho hum. great post kids wasn't their only hit, and i feel this is fairly common practice. i personally like that they're trying to alienate the teen fanbase they have. congratulations was a cool album, kind of a nice overview of disparate 70s influences. what i've heard of the new one is pretty weird. i'm excited when a band takes a left turn like this, they could have easily made two more oracular spectaculars. pretty weird to criticize them for this on a board devoted to relatively experimental music. Yeah, I've heard them being described as "selling out in reverse" - have hits, then get more and more obscure and commercially irrelevant as time goes on. I criticize any artist whom I feel has departed from a signature sound that made them great to begin with - and had Congratulations and the new album been good, they probably wouldn't be criticized by their fans for not wanting to play the hits at concerts. On 9/12/2013 at 10:04 PM, joshuatx said: Do they refuse to play "Kids" because they are tired of it...sorta like Lou Reed and "Walk On The Wild Side" or Radiohead and "Creep" as mentioned in the article.* If I was them I'd probably remix and/or re-arrange it and play that live as a compromise. Live expectations for "hit songs" are funny things - personally I wouldn't want it to sound "exactly the same" at all, at least for a song that slick and produced sounding. I want live songs to sound live. * while good imo, they are neither Lou Reed nor Radiohead by any means See, I get the "we're being avant-garde and hipster for the sake of it" vibe from all this, which pisses me off - when Squarepusher does something out of left field, I may or may not like it, but I can at least respect him for trying something different, however unsuccessful it may be compared to his earlier work (See Just a Souvenir). These guys are about as commercial as they come, and they're trying to ply their fans into buying all this hipster attitude crap. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Follow WATMM on Twitter: @WATMMOfficial Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80496-mgmt-is-too-cool-to-play-their-hits/#findComment-2061898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 Quote I criticize any artist whom I feel has departed from a signature sound that made them great to begin with This actually deeply offends me, more than I expected for something posted on an internet forum Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide modey's signature Hide all signatures youtube | bandcamp | soundcloud | twitter | facebook 0F.digital Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80496-mgmt-is-too-cool-to-play-their-hits/#findComment-2061907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
baph Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 Congratulations is a good album and a nice change of direction, IMO, but I can't help but crack up when anyone starts calling it avant garde and alienating, even if those terms are qualified with "hipster." Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80496-mgmt-is-too-cool-to-play-their-hits/#findComment-2061909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
J3FF3R00 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 On 9/12/2013 at 10:57 PM, modey said: Quote I criticize any artist whom I feel has departed from a signature sound that made them great to begin withThis actually deeply offends me, more than I expected for something posted on an internet forumI'd like to hear all of those criticisms, actually. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide J3FF3R00's signature Hide all signatures 666 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80496-mgmt-is-too-cool-to-play-their-hits/#findComment-2061912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tec Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 Did Our Lord not DJ with some fucking sandpaper? Chill out. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide tec's signature Hide all signatures "They're about guns, lasers, robots with laser guns in space. Monsters from the future. Explosions. Sylvester Stallone doing a backflip on top of a spike while Robocop carries a ghost up a mountain. Bombs and swords and that... IDM is awesome." Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80496-mgmt-is-too-cool-to-play-their-hits/#findComment-2061916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zaphod Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 On 9/12/2013 at 10:42 PM, Joyrex said: On 9/12/2013 at 7:39 PM, SR4 said: I really don't understand why they are getting flak for this; almost every major artist I can think of has at least had a period where they refused to play songs from other albums. Oh, they're just getting flak because not only is their new album another departure from the Oracular Spectacular formula, but it's getting mixed reviews to boot. I can't really blame them for not wanting to play Kids, but if the fans want to hear it (and they are performing for the fans), they should at least give the fans what they want since it's a paid performance. On 9/12/2013 at 9:37 PM, zaphod said: On 9/12/2013 at 9:24 PM, beerwolf said: Can't quite get to grips with this band, not really sure what the deal is with them, and to be quite honest I'm not sure I really care. Ho hum. great post kids wasn't their only hit, and i feel this is fairly common practice. i personally like that they're trying to alienate the teen fanbase they have. congratulations was a cool album, kind of a nice overview of disparate 70s influences. what i've heard of the new one is pretty weird. i'm excited when a band takes a left turn like this, they could have easily made two more oracular spectaculars. pretty weird to criticize them for this on a board devoted to relatively experimental music. Yeah, I've heard them being described as "selling out in reverse" - have hits, then get more and more obscure and commercially irrelevant as time goes on. I criticize any artist whom I feel has departed from a signature sound that made them great to begin with - and had Congratulations and the new album been good, they probably wouldn't be criticized by their fans for not wanting to play the hits at concerts. On 9/12/2013 at 10:04 PM, joshuatx said: Do they refuse to play "Kids" because they are tired of it...sorta like Lou Reed and "Walk On The Wild Side" or Radiohead and "Creep" as mentioned in the article.* If I was them I'd probably remix and/or re-arrange it and play that live as a compromise. Live expectations for "hit songs" are funny things - personally I wouldn't want it to sound "exactly the same" at all, at least for a song that slick and produced sounding. I want live songs to sound live. * while good imo, they are neither Lou Reed nor Radiohead by any means See, I get the "we're being avant-garde and hipster for the sake of it" vibe from all this, which pisses me off - when Squarepusher does something out of left field, I may or may not like it, but I can at least respect him for trying something different, however unsuccessful it may be compared to his earlier work (See Just a Souvenir). These guys are about as commercial as they come, and they're trying to ply their fans into buying all this hipster attitude crap. wow, really? an artist can't depart from their "signature sound" ie. the sound the first album happened to have, without criticism? i get that you don't think congratulations was good, but a lot of people actually liked it. imagine if every artist had to stick to their first album's sound. and i don't really see what's "hipster" about mgmt. unless you're just tossing that word out as a pejorative like everyone does, like "this bothers me therefore: hipsters". is there anything "hip" about writing a song about the lead singer of the television personalities, a reference i'm pretty sure none of their teen fans would get or care about? and they seemed like weirdos to begin with, this just seems like a more natural progression for them. i don't even like this band that much, but some of these statements are absurd. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80496-mgmt-is-too-cool-to-play-their-hits/#findComment-2061917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YO303 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 (edited) This is like Richard not playing Come to Daddy on every one of his sets. --- By the way OP's attitude is the reason why bands like the beach boys died, people demanding "play the hits" "sing about beaches". Experimentation gave us stuff Pet Sounds, Revolver, etc. Bands need to evolve, if you want the hits go watch a cover band. Edited September 13, 2013 by Deer Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80496-mgmt-is-too-cool-to-play-their-hits/#findComment-2061927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
J3FF3R00 Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 On 9/12/2013 at 11:56 PM, Deer said: By the way OP's attitude is the reason why bands like the beach boys died, people demanding "play the hits" "sing about beaches". Experimentation gave us stuff Pet Sounds, Revolver, etc. Bands need to evolve, if you want the hits go watch a cover band. Also: - Radiohead (though I stopped listening to them after ok computer) - David Bowie (made an industry on disappointing fans) - Bob Dylan (personally not a big fan of his, either) - The Beastie Boys ... That's a handful of obscure names that switched up their approach and effectively insured their legacy by doing so. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide J3FF3R00's signature Hide all signatures 666 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/80496-mgmt-is-too-cool-to-play-their-hits/#findComment-2061961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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