Why do you hate mashed potatoes?

I like them.

Because of this filthy little rodent.

You've ruined mashed potatoes for me Badger!!!

  On 9/15/2013 at 12:18 AM, StephenG said:

edit: @ manmower..

 

It's a matter of perspective, yes. I believe you need to contextualize music or any art or literature for that matter. It gives you insight into the writer/musician etc perspective and the backdrop upon which they probably formed their ideas.

 

That being said, if I were to take most pop music at face value I'd still dismiss it as garbage. How many times can you honestly listen to "ridin' in my Lamborghini" "shake that ass" " I'm so rich" or some other derivative before you honestly just want to never hear music again?

 

Pop music is so redundant and repetitive, that's the nature of pop music. The driving force behind it is marketing a certain lifestyle to listeners, to make them idolize the artists and buy into everything they are selling, IE the clothing lines, the cars, the albums, "sponsored by coca cola" events, etc.

 

This is partially why I like less-than-mainstream electronic music. Because it's not trying to sell me anything but the music (usually).

I don't know, but even if you experience the overwhelming majority of pop music in the way you describe it, that still sounds a bit black and white to me.

I don't want to get all CharlesWatkins here but although I love lots of "less-than-mainstream electronic music" there's also plenty of it that's extremely "redundant and repetitive" (not naming names here but I'm sure everyone can think of practically entire genres that are electronic, non-mainstream, and still tedious or downright annoying to them personally). And the artists are trying to sell you all sorts of stuff just as well. OK, not Lambos, but merchandise, collectors items, limited releases, doing series so people want to complete the set and things like that. Super lame, but you don't mind as long as you're a fan. Conversely, there seems to be a fair bit of radio friendly stuff that doesn't sound like it's trying to sell me a car or a clothing line; or if it is, it's not working.

Anyway, I do agree that contextualization is both necessary and unavoidable, and that the appreciation of music rarely or never really operates at the level of pure audio, so to speak. But when that escalates into prejudice and dismissing things just because of who created them and how much mass appeal they have and so on, there's something wrong.

Face tattoos, nothing wrong with that. Also suicides, good stuff.

I don't get why so many people hate going to the dentist's. Lying there silently, staring at the light while he's drilling and grinding away (at my teeth) makes me feel like a robot undergoing maintenance and it completely relaxes me.

  On 9/15/2013 at 1:36 AM, manmower said:

 

  On 9/15/2013 at 12:18 AM, StephenG said:

edit: @ manmower.. It's a matter of perspective, yes. I believe you need to contextualize music or any art or literature for that matter. It gives you insight into the writer/musician etc perspective and the backdrop upon which they probably formed their ideas. That being said, if I were to take most pop music at face value I'd still dismiss it as garbage. How many times can you honestly listen to "ridin' in my Lamborghini" "shake that ass" " I'm so rich" or some other derivative before you honestly just want to never hear music again? Pop music is so redundant and repetitive, that's the nature of pop music. The driving force behind it is marketing a certain lifestyle to listeners, to make them idolize the artists and buy into everything they are selling, IE the clothing lines, the cars, the albums, "sponsored by coca cola" events, etc. This is partially why I like less-than-mainstream electronic music. Because it's not trying to sell me anything but the music (usually).

I don't know, but even if you experience the overwhelming majority of pop music in the way you describe it, that still sounds a bit black and white to me. :smile:I don't want to get all CharlesWatkins here but although I love lots of "less-than-mainstream electronic music" there's also plenty of it that's extremely "redundant and repetitive" (not naming names here but I'm sure everyone can think of practically entire genres that are electronic, non-mainstream, and still tedious or downright annoying to them personally). And the artists are trying to sell you all sorts of stuff just as well. OK, not Lambos, but merchandise, collectors items, limited releases, doing series so people want to complete the set and things like that. Super lame, but you don't mind as long as you're a fan. Conversely, there seems to be a fair bit of radio friendly stuff that doesn't sound like it's trying to sell me a car or a clothing line; or if it is, it's not working.Anyway, I do agree that contextualization is both necessary and unavoidable, and that the appreciation of music rarely or never really operates at the level of pure audio, so to speak. But when that escalates into prejudice and dismissing things just because of who created them and how much mass appeal they have and so on, there's something wrong.

Cheers man :)

o actually love mashed potatoes, with the right mix of butter and single cream they are pretty spectacular. why would you make an entire thread about hating them? there is nought wrong with nice tatties.

I like them too really along with mist things you can make with potatoes. I know where I get it from now though As when I last visited my mother she was reading a book about them (an entire book!). Must be genetic.

edit: she even posted a pic to fb

  On 9/14/2013 at 11:16 PM, Ceerial said:

 

  On 9/14/2013 at 11:15 PM, Friendly Foil said:

I have nothing against pop music. It's just a shame that 99% of it is absolute shit.

 

99.2% of IDM and 99.76% of any electronic music is absolute shit. FACT.

We should listen to Adam, he is always right. FACT.

  On 9/15/2013 at 2:47 AM, manmower said:

I don't get why so many people hate going to the dentist's. Lying there silently, staring at the light while he's drilling and grinding away (at my teeth) makes me feel like a robot undergoing maintenance and it completely relaxes me.

yeah that's the first day: but when you have been 2 years going to the dentist once a month because you have braces, that really sucks and drains your impatience.

  On 9/15/2013 at 12:43 PM, Adam said:

 

  On 9/14/2013 at 11:16 PM, Ceerial said:

 

  On 9/14/2013 at 11:15 PM, Friendly Foil said:

I have nothing against pop music. It's just a shame that 99% of it is absolute shit.

 

99.2% of IDM and 99.76% of any electronic music is absolute shit. FACT.

 

That is also true.

fact

i like your signature btw, foil

  On 9/15/2013 at 12:51 PM, hello spiral said:

We should listen to Adam, he is always right. FACT.

FACT

you can fry mashed potatos into cool cakes somehow but i always mess them up and they dont hold together

i think for me 'pop' music carries a long with it a whole disgusting and money driven commercialized culture that represents everything that I try to avoid in my normal every day life. Occasionally i'll hear a top 40 song that will grab me and I will find it catchy, but for me an ultra poppy saccharine pop song that doesn't grab me will have the equivalent of nails on a chalkboard, it offends my most base level sensibilities. The worst is getting an ear worm from a really fundamentally shitty song that was playing in a store or something like that, to me it's almost ear-rape. Yes I could have chosen not to shop in that store, just like I could chose not to bank with Chase but the shit is unavoidable. It's impossible to 'opt out' of hearing bad pop music on a regular basis unless you live like a hermit.

  On 9/16/2013 at 1:39 AM, John Ehrlichman said:

i think for me 'pop' music carries a long with it a whole disgusting and money driven commercialized culture that represents everything that I try to avoid in my normal every day life. Occasionally i'll hear a top 40 song that will grab me and I will find it catchy, but for me an ultra poppy saccharine pop song that doesn't grab me will have the equivalent of nails on a chalkboard, it offends my most base level sensibilities. The worst is getting an ear worm from a really fundamentally shitty song that was playing in a store or something like that, to me it's almost ear-rape. Yes I could have chosen not to shop in that store, just like I could chose not to bank with Chase but the shit is unavoidable. It's impossible to 'opt out' of hearing bad pop music on a regular basis unless you live like a hermit.

Sounds like me and you are on the same page!

  On 9/14/2013 at 11:15 PM, Friendly Foil said:

I have nothing against pop music. It's just a shame that 99% of it is absolute shit.

mmmm these look nice. http://allrecipes.com/recipe/potato-latkes-i/

  On 9/15/2013 at 4:52 PM, MisterE said:

you can fry mashed potatos into cool cakes somehow but i always mess them up and they dont hold together

I've done this a few times. Turned out well.

Latkes are wonderful as well though tricky to make.

  On 9/14/2013 at 11:28 PM, Friendly Foil said:

I hate irony and sarcasm. Just say whatever it is you're trying to say, and stop hiding behind bad jokes and stuff.

This leads me to a thought, why was such a thing as sarcasm created, and how hard would it be to live a completely unsarcastic life?

  On 9/17/2013 at 5:15 AM, Jur said:

 

  On 9/14/2013 at 11:28 PM, Friendly Foil said:

I hate irony and sarcasm. Just say whatever it is you're trying to say, and stop hiding behind bad jokes and stuff.

 

This leads me to a thought, why was such a thing as sarcasm created, and how hard would it be to live a completely unsarcastic life?

 

Sarcasm is useful in many situations. For example if a coworker is doing something wrong, sometimes there is more tact in approaching the situations through some sort of sarcastic humour vs outright telling the person bluntly. Especially if you're not their boss..

It softens the blow.

That is only one example. There are people that wield sarcasm in rude ways. Lots of people that are full of themselves like to use sarcasm in rude ways....

But yeah I think sarcasm has its place.