mp3 players...where have they gone

  On 3/10/2014 at 6:49 PM, Rubin Farr said:

Neil Young branded Ponomusic hi definition audio players.

 

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f8-general-forum/neil-young-announces-launch-ponomusic-19703/

 

"to hear music the way its creators intended, with the emotion, detail, and power intact." ponomusic

 

"beats would allow people to "hear what the artists hear, and listen to the music the way they should: the way I do." beats headphones

 

what's next? they'll begin selling us producer ears that we can graft ontop of our own ears so we can have "an ear like your favorite producer. hear exactly what they hear"

btw: ponomusic sounds too much like pornomusic. personally, i like the sound of mp3 more so pono loses just on cool sounding basis

  On 3/5/2014 at 12:50 PM, missingsense said:

Yup sansa clip+. A bit buggy, but it was cheap.

 

Put rockbox firmware on it and you can play a ton of games on it too including:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rVV_0xKmhw

 

lol yes. i have one of these and love it. i have not used rockbox yet, but i did install HL1 on my ipod Nano a while back. Very strange.

 

  On 3/10/2014 at 6:49 PM, Rubin Farr said:

Neil Young branded Ponomusic hi definition audio players.

 

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f8-general-forum/neil-young-announces-launch-ponomusic-19703/

Oooh boy - I'm sure that toblerone shaped design would feel an absolute joy in your pocket. And $400 ?! Just grab a 128gb microSD and a cheap phone and you'd probably get it for about half that with probably an identical D/A converter...

  On 3/10/2014 at 9:41 PM, mcbpete said:

 

  On 3/10/2014 at 6:49 PM, Rubin Farr said:

Neil Young branded Ponomusic hi definition audio players.

 

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f8-general-forum/neil-young-announces-launch-ponomusic-19703/

Oooh boy - I'm sure that toblerone shaped design would feel an absolute joy in your pocket. And $400 ?! Just grab a 128gb microSD and a cheap phone and you'd probably get it for about half that with probably an identical D/A converter...

 

 

exactly... i can't believe the shitty "design" of this thing but i'd love to hear it.

 

big music stars love it, check the video on pitchfoork...

 

http://pitchfork.com/news/54316-neil-young-launches-digital-music-serviceplayer-pono-with-help-from-arcade-fire-beck-jack-white-bruce-springsteen-patti-smith-more/

 

beck, neil young, etc on the bus made me lol like is this a spinal tap piss take? i had to check it wasn't april fool's.

 

also why does neil young need a kickstarter for this? huge loaded mega stars are scrounging free money to fund their projects? wtf?

Edited March 12, 2014 by keltoi

FLAC will fill up 128GB pretty damn fast, also. This is one of the dumbest things I've heard of in awhile.

Edited March 12, 2014 by gmanyo

HA look at this fucking bullshit

 

http://www.factmag.com/2014/03/12/whats-your-cut-audience-question-derails-neil-youngs-pono-introduction-at-sxsw/

i used to have this "Creative" Zen mp3 player back in 05 or so that could hold up to 10,000 songs. ended up failing and i bought one of those chubby iPod nano's. Still works TO THIS DAY. Take that apple haterzzz. Also, my current iPhone is used more as an mp3 player than a cellular device.

  On 3/12/2014 at 5:04 PM, gmanyo said:

HA look at this fucking bullshit

 

http://www.factmag.com/2014/03/12/whats-your-cut-audience-question-derails-neil-youngs-pono-introduction-at-sxsw/

 

flol. i'm looking forward to watching this unravel.

I still carry around a 512 mb ipod shuffle since 8 years ago. I only have around 20 tracks on it at any given time, as a tribute to the old days of cd players.

Here's the kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1003614822/ponomusic-where-your-soul-rediscovers-music

 

I am all for higher quality downloads and have spent a lot of time and money to make sure my entire collection is lossless. That being said I will readily admit that the psychoacoustic gains are limited and that quality mastering is a more important consideration than high resolution files. I wasn't surprised to see that only musicians as opposed to mastering engineers were interviewed for that 'reactions' vid: instead of audio science we are fed adjectives like 'warm', 'round' and 'alive': notions that are entirely subjective and unquantifiable.

Also, they weren't even talking about the hi-fi in that car which is the really crucial component for the experience that the celebrity listeners were having, as opposed to the file resolution.

 

I smell audiophile bullshit, and this is coming from an audiophile :p

I read today "The Boss" is involved as well.

look at sanza, vuze + ect. best bang for the buck

 

I use a sansa clip + with 8gb micro sdcard added

Edited March 18, 2014 by murphythecat8

Also a Sansa Clip user. Great sound on it, perfect if you're a cyclist. Only downside is battery life but if you set the brightness settings much lower and make a couple of other tweaks you can increase that by a couple hours. You're never too far from a micro USB cable these days so just keep it topped up.

 

I've got two of them even. 32GB micro SD card gives me a decent sized library. With the 128GB micro SDs arriving soon I can't see me ever converting away from them.

I'm with Goiter. This PornoMusic thing seems woolly as you like, trading on 'feels' rather than facts. I paid £250 for my walkman, and it plays back lossless audio beautifully to my ears, even with just the stock earphones (which I do plan to upgrade eventually). Oh, right - it isn't signed by Neil Young... *drop-kicks walkman into a quarry*

  On 3/10/2014 at 9:34 PM, thanks robert moses said:

 

  On 3/5/2014 at 12:50 PM, missingsense said:

Yup sansa clip+. A bit buggy, but it was cheap.

 

Put rockbox firmware on it and you can play a ton of games on it too including:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rVV_0xKmhw

lol yes. i have one of these and love it. i have not used rockbox yet, but i did install HL1 on my ipod Nano a while back. Very strange.

 

 

Rockbox is great! Doom was what made me check it out, but now I can now record in lossless format, and the recordings are not bad at all. Just checked a bunch, no interference like with most phones, clean sound.

Don Draper is the CEO of Ponomusic.

 

It's also not a "portable" player, it is not made for portability actually.

Neil Young is now reduced to a snake-oil salesman in my eyes.

 

I'm a fan of flac, and everything. But the emphasis on 192kHz/24 bit audio is ridiculous.

  On 3/5/2014 at 12:50 PM, missingsense said:

Yup sansa clip+. A bit buggy, but it was cheap.

 

Put rockbox firmware on it and you can play a ton of games on it too including:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rVV_0xKmhw

 

I have a Sansa Clip+. I love it. But I've been hesitant on putting Rockbox to it. Why should I do it? I know I can play games and shit. But would you recommend it? Why?

  On 3/19/2014 at 6:17 AM, Root5 said:

Neil Young is now reduced to a snake-oil salesman in my eyes.

 

I'm a fan of flac, and everything. But the emphasis on 192kHz/24 bit audio is ridiculous.

Yeah, can't believe he can speak with such conviction about this; ultrasonic frequencies can create bands of distortion in the audible range on some systems and in ABX double-blind tests no one can reliably tell the difference between 24/192 and 16/44.1. For further reading: http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

Don't most people use MP3 players when they're on the move and stuff with lots of noise around them? Because then I'm not sure how lossless music would be worth all the trouble.

  On 3/19/2014 at 7:00 AM, logakght said:

 

  On 3/5/2014 at 12:50 PM, missingsense said:

Yup sansa clip+. A bit buggy, but it was cheap.

 

Put rockbox firmware on it and you can play a ton of games on it too including:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rVV_0xKmhw

I have a Sansa Clip+. I love it. But I've been hesitant on putting Rockbox to it. Why should I do it? I know I can play games and shit. But would you recommend it? Why?

I almost bricked mine on the first day I got it, due to some strange disk corruption. It would take minutes to start up and wouldn't respond. So I came across rockbox, and basically just installed it when it finally decided to boot correct.

 

You lose DRM playback, and I wouldn't recommend it for games really, playing doom feels like ur handicapped. But just look through the features yourself and decide... For me recordings seem cleaner, no interference anymore, and I can record in WavPack format, which is nice. Bookmarks are nice. Autoresume. Theres some nice stuff there.

Still buggy as hell with when I try to plug it in my USB port though, sometimes it crashes, sometimes it doesn't show up at all. But at least it powers through this stuff without bricking.

  On 3/19/2014 at 12:11 PM, missingsense said:

 

  On 3/19/2014 at 7:00 AM, logakght said:

 

  On 3/5/2014 at 12:50 PM, missingsense said:

Yup sansa clip+. A bit buggy, but it was cheap.

 

Put rockbox firmware on it and you can play a ton of games on it too including:

I have a Sansa Clip+. I love it. But I've been hesitant on putting Rockbox to it. Why should I do it? I know I can play games and shit. But would you recommend it? Why?

I almost bricked mine on the first day I got it, due to some strange disk corruption. It would take minutes to start up and wouldn't respond. So I came across rockbox, and basically just installed it when it finally decided to boot correct.

 

You lose DRM playback, and I wouldn't recommend it for games really, playing doom feels like ur handicapped. But just look through the features yourself and decide... For me recordings seem cleaner, no interference anymore, and I can record in WavPack format, which is nice. Bookmarks are nice. Autoresume. Theres some nice stuff there.

 

 

oh yeah I wish the recording was smoother (it sounds like a click at least in mine)... thanks for the reply

porno music is at almost 5 million dollars right now

  On 3/10/2014 at 9:31 PM, Nebraska said:

 

  On 3/10/2014 at 6:49 PM, Rubin Farr said:

Neil Young branded Ponomusic hi definition audio players.

 

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f8-general-forum/neil-young-announces-launch-ponomusic-19703/

 

"to hear music the way its creators intended, with the emotion, detail, and power intact." ponomusic

 

"beats would allow people to "hear what the artists hear, and listen to the music the way they should: the way I do." beats headphones

 

what's next? they'll begin selling us producer ears that we can graft ontop of our own ears so we can have "an ear like your favorite producer. hear exactly what they hear"

btw: ponomusic sounds too much like pornomusic. personally, i like the sound of mp3 more so pono loses just on cool sounding basis

 

 

i'm reading comments from the suckers that gave neil young money for this toberlone bar. turns out around may, pono music was supposed to go online to customers who help fund the kickstarter. currently (june 18th) no live pono music.

 

everyone else has been buying $1,000 plus headphones and high recorded players and amps in anticipation of the high quality pono