Would you leave your country and why?

Maybe. I'm very happy where I am but a slightly longer summer would be nice and I would love to live in Amsterdam.

I'd like to move into a dream reality but unfortunately I'm stuck in the normal reality until I die

Ah fuck it. I'm moving to North Korea to smoke some dank bud.

http://www.vice.com/read/north-korea-is-stoned-all-the-time-which-explains-a-lot

I'd only move to some other country, specially UK or Sweden, for better job conditions / study / musical scene if I become a prof. musician.

i'm a dual citizen, having lived 14 years of my life in the UK and 12 in the US. i do consider myself Anglo-American or British-American. in general i've moved around a lot, and i like experiencing new places. i would have no qualms about moving outside either of my home nations. i think i'd particularly like to live in the Netherlands, Germany, or perhaps Australia. i'll go where the right job is, but i honestly don't think there are many countries i wouldn't at least consider.

no. i like living in the united states, despite its faults. i have everything i need to lead a good life here.

yeah i will leave it, polandball ned moneys

yes, better designs companies in holland & switzerland

  On 10/24/2013 at 7:06 PM, Ron Manager said:

i'm a dual citizen, having lived 14 years of my life in the UK and 12 in the US. i do consider myself Anglo-American or British-American. in general i've moved around a lot, and i like experiencing new places. i would have no qualms about moving outside either of my home nations. i think i'd particularly like to live in the Netherlands, Germany, or perhaps Australia. i'll go where the right job is, but i honestly don't think there are many countries i wouldn't at least consider.

Where did you live in UK? Where do you live in US?

And how much hassle was the dual citizenship thing? I'm considering it but I believe you have to file and pay taxes in the US if you then move to the UK and want to keep the dual thing.

i live in the capital of this terrible country and i don't plan on leaving

  On 10/24/2013 at 8:13 PM, Jimmy McMessageboard said:

 

  On 10/24/2013 at 7:06 PM, Ron Manager said:

i'm a dual citizen, having lived 14 years of my life in the UK and 12 in the US. i do consider myself Anglo-American or British-American. in general i've moved around a lot, and i like experiencing new places. i would have no qualms about moving outside either of my home nations. i think i'd particularly like to live in the Netherlands, Germany, or perhaps Australia. i'll go where the right job is, but i honestly don't think there are many countries i wouldn't at least consider.

 

Where did you live in UK? Where do you live in US?

 

And how much hassle was the dual citizenship thing? I'm considering it but I believe you have to file and pay taxes in the US if you then move to the UK and want to keep the dual thing.

 

i'll PM you (unless anyone else particularly wants to know about UK/US dual citizenship).

You don't have to travel round the world to realise that the Sky is Blue everywhere... *strokes imaginary beard*

I want to move to anywhere besides the USA. I work in a field that is pretty transferable other than the fact that I only speak English and small bits of Spanish and Russian.

I want to move to Sweden or Norway and live in a wonderful socialist utopia.

  On 10/24/2013 at 9:14 PM, Audioblysk said:

I want to move to anywhere besides the USA. I work in a field that is pretty transferable other than the fact that I only speak English and small bits of Spanish and Russian.

I want to move to Sweden or Norway and live in a wonderful socialist utopia.

Sweden has actually turned kind of right-wing as of the past 20 years, but I guess social coverage and state rationality is better there than most anywhere... for now (see the free schools disaster.)

Ask not if you would leave your country but if your country would leave you.

  On 10/25/2013 at 3:14 AM, M360 said:

Ask not if you would leave your country but if your country would leave you.

Ours has left us already.

Specially to mid and low class.

(sent from my not-Apple device using Talk That Talk Deluxe Edition)

  On 10/24/2013 at 3:36 PM, joshuatx said:

 

Yeah the villages and reservations seem pretty grim in terms of standard of living and social ills, and likewise that's often the core of the show, besides say poaching and other very "harsh region" oriented problems. I was just amazed to see them literally ticket people for having insane amounts of weed - in one episode he literally avoided arresting a guy who was holding multiple ounces so long as he destroyed it on the spot. In a typical COPS episode the same person would of been cuffed and probably insulted and embarrassed multiple times. Granted, it's a documentary, but it's refreshing to see that "public service" stressed there.

 

You work at Elmedorf I take it? That's cool that older buildings remain.

 

Correct. Elmendorf AFB became a joint base with Fort Richardson three years ago. Even though several old structures remain, there've been quite a few administrative and budget allocation changes in the past few years.

I understand the cops here aren't gonna bust people for smoking weed privately at home, but smoking or selling it in public is more likely to draw their attention. Marijuana is quite abundant here, even though it's not officially legalized like it was last year in Washington and Colorado.

I have also noticed quite a few Texas license plates on vehicles in this area too. I think a lot of GIs get assigned up here from there.

BTW if anybody ever plans on visiting this frozen land, hit me up.

Not even for a Klondike bar.

Id absolutely move to Canada if they offered me a job. Beautiful weather, beautiful cities (Toronto and a few others Ive visited), and the people are like night and day compared to the typical American. Plus I welcome socialized healthcare, and Canada seems to be pretty efficient in that regard.

I would technically at least consider moving back to South Korea, other than the isolated incident, I loved the culture and the nightlife. Problem in reality though is that at best I could only be an ESOL teacher, and make scraps.....though compared to what im making now it might actually be more....hmm...

  On 10/25/2013 at 3:58 PM, SR4 said:

I would technically at least consider moving back to South Korea, other than the isolated incident, I loved the culture and the nightlife. Problem in reality though is that at best I could only be an ESOL teacher, and make scraps.....though compared to what im making now it might actually be more....hmm...

My friends were ESOL teachers - with no previous teaching experience beforehand - and they lived basically but comfortably and saved enough money to travel around Asia for almost a year. Also what was the "isolated incident" now I'm curious as hell about that...

Absolutely. I know that Denmark/Scandinavian countries have been potrayed to be "the happiest place on earth" by some american media outlets, but that is simply just not true. I've read a lot of stuff on how those studies have shown to be flawed, because there is problem with the translation of the english word "happy" and the Danish version "glad", which the people asked in studies have been asked. Those two things doesn't means the same thing. Happy is kind of a state extreme happiness/ecstasy, while "glad" basically just means satisfied. So people in scandinavia are just the most satisfied people on earth, not the most happy, and living here I can confirm that people are not as happy as some might think. One out of ten suffers from depression and a lot of people have alcohol issues etc.

Not that is some kind of grim country to grow up or live in or anything, the living standards are high, which is also the reason why we are so satisfied. But it annoys me when people think that everything is perfect in Denmark, that is just bullshit. People that move here in the belief they've found paradise, will be hugely disappointed. But on the other hand, the perfect country probably doesn't exist.

Personally I would like to move to Britain, the few times I've been there, it seemed like people were just so much more friendlier there.

^Holy fucking shit that makes so much sense. Once I dove into some random aspects of Scandinavian culture not normally portrayed here in the U.S. (Black Metal, the history of Scandinavia before and during WWII) I realized that Scandinavian society is just as fucked up and crazy as aspects of any other country. People tend to think the "grass is always greener" on the other side, which is why I have to echo what Hoodie said about America. Yeah, it's not perfect, but I can make a live here just as much as I could anywhere else.

Everyone in America thinks of Scandinavia as mostly:

1. VIKINGS!

2. Tall and blonde and minimal and modern

3. Legos

4. State funded hugs and smiles and everything!

5. Your relative and/or friend from Minnesota who likes Lutefish and says "doncha' know" and "you betcha"

They forget:

1. Winter

2. Cold

3. It's fucking cold and dark during winter

4. This: Law_of_Jante

5. I'm probably generalizing, but there's also the fact that Denmark and other Scandinavian countries are quite homogenized and relatively small in population. That's a huge factor in why they are so highly ranked in statistics about progress, happiness, standard of living, etc. Iceland in particular is always cited as a progressive, green (energy wise) utopian land of musicians and surreal landscapes but it's also a nation with only 320,000 people: that wouldn't even make it in the top 50 biggest US cities.

Also, everyone I know who complains about where they live and then cites somewhere better...they never are content anywhere. In fact, they'll often move to a city or state they think it's perfect then just find something new to complain about after a year or so.

(Edit: that actually pretty much sums up my twenties..)

  On 10/25/2013 at 4:50 PM, joshuatx said:

^Holy fucking shit that makes so much sense. Once I dove into some random aspects of Scandinavian culture not normally portrayed here in the U.S. (Black Metal, the history of Scandinavia before and during WWII) I realized that Scandinavian society is just as fucked up and crazy as aspects of any other country. People tend to think the "grass is always greener" on the other side, which is why I have to echo what Hoodie said about America. Yeah, it's not perfect, but I can make a live here just as much as I could anywhere else.

 

Everyone in America thinks of Scandinavia as mostly:

 

1. VIKINGS!

2. Tall and blonde and minimal and modern

3. Legos

4. State funded hugs and smiles and everything!

5. Your relative and/or friend from Minnesota who likes Lutefish and says "doncha' know" and "you betcha"

 

They forget:

1. Winter

2. Cold

3. It's fucking cold and dark during winter

4. This: Law_of_Jante

5. I'm probably generalizing, but there's also the fact that Denmark and other Scandinavian countries are quite homogenized and relatively small in population. That's a huge factor in why they are so highly ranked in statistics about progress, happiness, standard of living, etc. Iceland in particular is always cited as a progressive, green (energy wise) utopian land of musicians and surreal landscapes but it's also a nation with only 320,000 people: that wouldn't even make it in the top 50 biggest US cities.

I definitely have feeling that American media never portrays some of the shitty things here. Most Americans I've talked to, always thinks that Denmark is some kind of utopia. There are a lot shitty things here too. To give an example: a lot of Americans probably don't know that the gang violence in Copenhagen is crazy. Most Americans probably just associate Copenhagen with stuff like: bicycles, green energy and whatever.... good things.

Another thing (And I'm definitely going to sound like an old grumpy man now, which is weird, since I'm only 23). But this new generation (mine included) are just some of the most entitled, spoiled and lazy little brats that have ever lived (that is probably a problem in most western countries nowadays though). But I think those are some of bad things that comes with the Danish welfare.

But to give an example, I have just gone back to school to start another education, and think only about 60% of my classmates shows up everyday, and most of those who does show up, just spends their day playing stupid mobile games/facebook'ing on their tablets all day long, and never pays attention to anything in class. Anything that isn't entertainment to them, doesn't concern them. Maybe I have just ended up in a bad class, but jesus christ.

Most of them just shows up to cash in on the education financial support (not quite what to call it in english, but it is called "SU" here). We are one of the few countries where you can take a education, without ending up with a huge debt afterwards, and yet people don't give a shit.

Again.. I probably sound like a grumpy old twat, but I just find that stuff so annoying, and I am probably getting a little off-topic here.