Google Glass (or similar) in a public place poll

  On 12/1/2013 at 2:36 AM, oscillik said:

 

  On 12/1/2013 at 2:31 AM, StephenG said:

also lol just noticed these things cost $2000USD +

no they don't. it's $1500.

 

The only ones I can find even for sale are on e-bay and they're 1800USD + shipping.

edit: but of course the price isn't the issue being discussed lol.

  On 12/1/2013 at 3:52 PM, Phoenix said:

 

  On 12/1/2013 at 1:14 PM, wabby said:

OnonehandGoogleGlassjustseemslikeanotherthingforpeoplewithattentiondefictdisorder,whycan'tyoujustuseyour5senses?Doyoualwaysneedaugmentedfacts?Useyourimaginationwhydon'tya?Howeverthethingthatreallymakesmewanttotryitisforlanguagetranslation,thenitmakessenseforittobeinyourfacewhenyouaretalkingtopeople.(sorrymyspacebarisplayingup).

 

 

You broke it!

 

*Glassesshatter*

  On 12/1/2013 at 4:52 PM, StephenG said:

 

  On 12/1/2013 at 2:36 AM, oscillik said:

 

  On 12/1/2013 at 2:31 AM, StephenG said:

also lol just noticed these things cost $2000USD +

no they don't. it's $1500.

 

 

The only ones I can find even for sale are on e-bay and they're 1800USD + shipping.

 

edit: but of course the price isn't the issue being discussed lol.

 

that's second hand sales, not direct from Google. the increase in price on the second hand market is due to the fact that you must have an invite to be able to purchase one.

Ah, that makes sense thanks. Sorry I don't know much about them.

You brought up a good point earlier that you have to say, out loud, what you want them to do etc. This makes it much more intrusive IMO and yeah I guess I might actually have a problem with it.

If it was more passive then probably not. Have you ever seen anyone wearing them?

  On 12/1/2013 at 9:45 AM, oscillik said:

it seems that some people here aren't aware that with Google Glass you have to

 

1. verbally, and audibly tell Google Glass to start recording (which you would be able to hear, if you were the subject being recorded)

2. point your line of sight in the direction of the subject being filmed, in much the same way you would with any camera.

 

So you absolutely would be aware that you are being recorded. Having said all that though, I did say "Google Glass (and similar) devices" which doesn't preclude even more compact devices which do not require some kind of audible command or direct line of sight for recording.

 

 

I definitely do agree with the smug factor though, as Kcinsu mentioned - can totally see people having a "awwww yeah dats rite boiiii, BAM Google Glass" look on their face.

points 1 and 2 are very debatable ones. Clearly the voice command thing will not be required at a certain point, most likely out the gates when it's released jail-breaker types and other apps will allow recording without a voice command. Not to mention it's assuming that someone wouldn't have been recording the entire time, you're only talking about them starting a recording.

on point 2, possibly, but you sit in the line of sight of plenty of people outside in public who wear glasses, and at this current moment it never crosses your mind 'are they recording me' but if google glass catches on, i'm sure that these types of devices will be way more stealth looking, you are assuming that they will be so noticeable that you can avoid being filmed on one if you wanted to.

I can say with absolute certainty that if anyone I knew or was close to thought it was cool or appropriate to hang out with me wearing one of these I'd tell them to please kindly fuck off

  On 12/2/2013 at 2:31 AM, John Ehrlichman said:

 

  On 12/1/2013 at 9:45 AM, oscillik said:

it seems that some people here aren't aware that with Google Glass you have to

 

1. verbally, and audibly tell Google Glass to start recording (which you would be able to hear, if you were the subject being recorded)

2. point your line of sight in the direction of the subject being filmed, in much the same way you would with any camera.

 

So you absolutely would be aware that you are being recorded. Having said all that though, I did say "Google Glass (and similar) devices" which doesn't preclude even more compact devices which do not require some kind of audible command or direct line of sight for recording.

 

 

I definitely do agree with the smug factor though, as Kcinsu mentioned - can totally see people having a "awwww yeah dats rite boiiii, BAM Google Glass" look on their face.

points 1 and 2 are very debatable ones. Clearly the voice command thing will not be required at a certain point, most likely out the gates when it's released jail-breaker types and other apps will allow recording without a voice command. Not to mention it's assuming that someone wouldn't have been recording the entire time, you're only talking about them starting a recording.

on point 2, possibly, but you sit in the line of sight of plenty of people outside in public who wear glasses, and at this current moment it never crosses your mind 'are they recording me' but if google glass catches on, i'm sure that these types of devices will be way more stealth looking, you are assuming that they will be so noticeable that you can avoid being filmed on one if you wanted to.

 

I can say with absolute certainty that if anyone I knew or was close to thought it was cool or appropriate to hang out with me wearing one of these I'd tell them to please kindly fuck off

 

I'm surprised to hear that, in a way. I think some of the uses of the google glass are incredible. Being able to translate what someone is saying in a foreign language, or being able to identify unknown music tracks/albums etc are fantastic....

Theres more to these things than being able to record people.

  On 12/1/2013 at 9:45 AM, oscillik said:

it seems that some people here aren't aware that with Google Glass you have to

 

1. verbally, and audibly tell Google Glass to start recording (which you would be able to hear, if you were the subject being recorded)

2. point your line of sight in the direction of the subject being filmed, in much the same way you would with any camera.

what if i entered a restaurant, sat down, ordered my meal, then excused myself to go to the bathroom and said "google glasses, begin recording" then went back to my seat and resumed eating whilst occasionally looking over at you (thus recording you). how will you know then?

also, can't you enable recording silently? also, using your example of a restaurant- if i mumble to my glasses, will you really be able to hear me amongst all the other mumbling going on?

  On 12/2/2013 at 2:31 AM, John Ehrlichman said:

 

  On 12/1/2013 at 9:45 AM, oscillik said:

it seems that some people here aren't aware that with Google Glass you have to

 

1. verbally, and audibly tell Google Glass to start recording (which you would be able to hear, if you were the subject being recorded)

2. point your line of sight in the direction of the subject being filmed, in much the same way you would with any camera.

 

So you absolutely would be aware that you are being recorded. Having said all that though, I did say "Google Glass (and similar) devices" which doesn't preclude even more compact devices which do not require some kind of audible command or direct line of sight for recording.

 

 

I definitely do agree with the smug factor though, as Kcinsu mentioned - can totally see people having a "awwww yeah dats rite boiiii, BAM Google Glass" look on their face.

points 1 and 2 are very debatable ones. Clearly the voice command thing will not be required at a certain point, most likely out the gates when it's released jail-breaker types and other apps will allow recording without a voice command. Not to mention it's assuming that someone wouldn't have been recording the entire time, you're only talking about them starting a recording.

on point 2, possibly, but you sit in the line of sight of plenty of people outside in public who wear glasses, and at this current moment it never crosses your mind 'are they recording me' but if google glass catches on, i'm sure that these types of devices will be way more stealth looking, you are assuming that they will be so noticeable that you can avoid being filmed on one if you wanted to.

 

I can say with absolute certainty that if anyone I knew or was close to thought it was cool or appropriate to hang out with me wearing one of these I'd tell them to please kindly fuck off

 

  On 12/2/2013 at 7:32 AM, Nebraska said:

 

  On 12/1/2013 at 9:45 AM, oscillik said:

it seems that some people here aren't aware that with Google Glass you have to

 

1. verbally, and audibly tell Google Glass to start recording (which you would be able to hear, if you were the subject being recorded)

2. point your line of sight in the direction of the subject being filmed, in much the same way you would with any camera.

 

what if i entered a restaurant, sat down, ordered my meal, then excused myself to go to the bathroom and said "google glasses, begin recording" then went back to my seat and resumed eating whilst occasionally looking over at you (thus recording you). how will you know then?

 

also, can't you enable recording silently? also, using your example of a restaurant- if i mumble to my glasses, will you really be able to hear me amongst all the other mumbling going on?

 

you cannot record silently, you have to verbally tell the device to record (and not just whisper). As for jailbreaking, how do you propose that these jailbreakers would trigger the recording once jailbroken, since there are no buttons on the device that could act as a trigger?.

as for the whole scenario of 'going to another room, triggering recording, and then going to the same room as you' - yes of course that is feasible, however the battery life on Google Glass is famously abysmal.

  On 12/2/2013 at 9:01 AM, oscillik said:

 

  On 12/2/2013 at 2:31 AM, John Ehrlichman said:

 

  On 12/1/2013 at 9:45 AM, oscillik said:

it seems that some people here aren't aware that with Google Glass you have to

 

1. verbally, and audibly tell Google Glass to start recording (which you would be able to hear, if you were the subject being recorded)

2. point your line of sight in the direction of the subject being filmed, in much the same way you would with any camera.

 

So you absolutely would be aware that you are being recorded. Having said all that though, I did say "Google Glass (and similar) devices" which doesn't preclude even more compact devices which do not require some kind of audible command or direct line of sight for recording.

 

 

I definitely do agree with the smug factor though, as Kcinsu mentioned - can totally see people having a "awwww yeah dats rite boiiii, BAM Google Glass" look on their face.

points 1 and 2 are very debatable ones. Clearly the voice command thing will not be required at a certain point, most likely out the gates when it's released jail-breaker types and other apps will allow recording without a voice command. Not to mention it's assuming that someone wouldn't have been recording the entire time, you're only talking about them starting a recording.

on point 2, possibly, but you sit in the line of sight of plenty of people outside in public who wear glasses, and at this current moment it never crosses your mind 'are they recording me' but if google glass catches on, i'm sure that these types of devices will be way more stealth looking, you are assuming that they will be so noticeable that you can avoid being filmed on one if you wanted to.

 

I can say with absolute certainty that if anyone I knew or was close to thought it was cool or appropriate to hang out with me wearing one of these I'd tell them to please kindly fuck off

 

 

 

  On 12/2/2013 at 7:32 AM, Nebraska said:

 

  On 12/1/2013 at 9:45 AM, oscillik said:

it seems that some people here aren't aware that with Google Glass you have to

 

1. verbally, and audibly tell Google Glass to start recording (which you would be able to hear, if you were the subject being recorded)

2. point your line of sight in the direction of the subject being filmed, in much the same way you would with any camera.

 

what if i entered a restaurant, sat down, ordered my meal, then excused myself to go to the bathroom and said "google glasses, begin recording" then went back to my seat and resumed eating whilst occasionally looking over at you (thus recording you). how will you know then?

 

also, can't you enable recording silently? also, using your example of a restaurant- if i mumble to my glasses, will you really be able to hear me amongst all the other mumbling going on?

 

 

 

you cannot record silently, you have to verbally tell the device to record (and not just whisper). As for jailbreaking, how do you propose that these jailbreakers would trigger the recording once jailbroken, since there are no buttons on the device that could act as a trigger?.

 

as for the whole scenario of 'going to another room, triggering recording, and then going to the same room as you' - yes of course that is feasible, however the battery life on Google Glass is famously abysmal.

 

remote controlled from an iphone that your friend could be holding. don't forget that the most brilliant twisted minds who can afford one will be putting their best efforts towards corrupting it for evil

dude google glass has bluetooth. if it gets jailbroken (it will, no doubt about that) it will be SUPER easy to set up a silent recording mode.

um also, from the google glass manual:

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Use the physical camera button as a shortcut by holding it down for one second to start recording. Press the button again while recording to extend the video. Pressing the button while recording an extended video will stop the recording.

so no, you don't need to audibly tell glass to record video. you can just hold down the camera button that is built into it.

  On 12/2/2013 at 4:48 PM, disparaissant said:

um also, from the google glass manual:

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Use the physical camera button as a shortcut by holding it down for one second to start recording. Press the button again while recording to extend the video. Pressing the button while recording an extended video will stop the recording.

so no, you don't need to audibly tell glass to record video. you can just hold down the camera button that is built into it.

flol nice find

I think ultimately even if the google glass is a complete fail, in some ways it's paving the way for the future. I like the idea that we could have a device that translates foreign text or language on the fly, you can bring up reviews of stores or restaurants in your field of vision (without looking it up on your iphone etc), and do all kinds of other things that we currently do (or don't do) with our smart devices. From what I remember there is supposedly some social media style applications being developed as well, for example being able to bring up other users with similar interests in your field of vision (other people wearing the glasses having their profile saved to them). I like the idea of being able to pick someone out of a crowd that you're most likely to click with to start up a conversation.

Imagine when this technology is commonplace and built into every pair of oakleys or whatever..

It's borderline augmentation. Real life deus ex.

  On 12/2/2013 at 5:11 PM, StephenG said:

I like the idea of being able to pick someone out of a crowd that you're most likely to click with to start up a conversation.

It's amazing what kinds of crazy things technology can make possible these days

  On 12/2/2013 at 9:01 AM, oscillik said:

you cannot record silently, you have to verbally tell the device to record (and not just whisper). As for jailbreaking, how do you propose that these jailbreakers would trigger the recording once jailbroken, since there are no buttons on the device that could act as a trigger?.

 

as for the whole scenario of 'going to another room, triggering recording, and then going to the same room as you' - yes of course that is feasible, however the battery life on Google Glass is famously abysmal.

 

i can see the recording being triggered by apps with a simple click on the phone. i can even see them trigger it with a certain movement or enabling a timer device (start recording in 30 seconds from.... now)

i can see someone being optimistic about this technology if you live in a small quaint town or a very bourgeois community (like anyone that lives in santa barbara will probably be a very responsible google glass owner)- but in places like new york or los angeles this is a disaster waiting to happening. it's bad enough everytime i go somewhere and there is either a popular landmark or "recognizable celebrity" there's a bunch of people standing still with their camera phones going off like a bunch of fireworks to think now you can add to the mix people wearing google glasses is very disturbing

I'm looking forward to being able to jam the shit out of google glass - like creating some kind of field modifier that makes people using glass think they're entering bat country.

Imagine the possibilities.

lol

oh the possibilities

Insert code that displays a terrifying devil face for a fraction of a second every once in a while.

  On 12/2/2013 at 4:46 PM, disparaissant said:

dude google glass has bluetooth. if it gets jailbroken (it will, no doubt about that) it will be SUPER easy to set up a silent recording mode.

that's why im surprised that the sort of brushing off of the concern revolves around the first 'official' iteration of features, which clearly can be subverted bay anybody who wants to do this, if not right away very shortly after it's release.

It's kind of moot, since the first iteration features silent recording anyway.

  On 12/2/2013 at 2:37 AM, StephenG said:

 

I'm surprised to hear that, in a way. I think some of the uses of the google glass are incredible. Being able to translate what someone is saying in a foreign language, or being able to identify unknown music tracks/albums etc are fantastic....

 

Theres more to these things than being able to record people.

 

if some friend of mine needed it to navigate an area with a foreign language translator augmented reality thing that's totally different than a person casually wearing one all of the time making a complete ass out of themselves. So in certain instances I wouldn't find it offensive, but if anybody i knew started wearing these seriously all the time I would literally have a hard time still maintaining a freindship, i think it spells out a lot about someone's character. Just like I wouldn't like hanging out with somebody who's constantly on their cellphone texting or instagraming every fucking meal they eat. Will i have a hard time navigating the world and interpersonal relations once/if augmented reality glasses become a totally normal thing? absolutely I will, and I'm actually surprised that my attitude about this is seen by a lot of tech-geeks as old-fashioned and unwilling to adapt with the times. It's like the argument I hear when i bring up the importance of privacy

  On 12/3/2013 at 2:33 AM, John Ehrlichman said:

 

  On 12/2/2013 at 2:37 AM, StephenG said:

 

I'm surprised to hear that, in a way. I think some of the uses of the google glass are incredible. Being able to translate what someone is saying in a foreign language, or being able to identify unknown music tracks/albums etc are fantastic....

 

Theres more to these things than being able to record people.

 

if some friend of mine needed it to navigate an area with a foreign language translator augmented reality thing that's totally different than a person casually wearing one all of the time making a complete ass out of themselves. So in certain instances I wouldn't find it offensive, but if anybody i knew started wearing these seriously all the time I would literally have a hard time still maintaining a freindship, i think it spells out a lot about someone's character. Just like I wouldn't like hanging out with somebody who's constantly on their cellphone texting or instagraming every fucking meal they eat. Will i have a hard time navigating the world and interpersonal relations once/if augmented reality glasses become a totally normal thing? absolutely I will, and I'm actually surprised that my attitude about this is seen by a lot of tech-geeks as old-fashioned and unwilling to adapt with the times. It's like the argument I hear when i bring up the importance of privacy

 

 

 

pittance boss.... I completely agree with you. IMO it has brilliant potential, but it depends on the user and his/her intent. Imagine me flying down to peru (I'm flying there for 25 days next year) being able to completely understand the local languages... (we are backpacking for at least 15 days through the country....) I think that's a great use for the g-glass...

Again, its the intent behind this device, like most devices..... thoughts?

I didn't know that it had a physical button for silent recording, and I also didn't really think it through that you could bluetooth trigger recordings.

sorry girls and guys - thought I was coming into this informed, but clearly I was wrong.

With these new features brought to light, would I change my vote?

hmmm. I don't know. reading through the posts here, and taking into account the silent recording stuff, I can see the perspective against this kind of technology.

The waiters at my company's Xmas party were all wearing Glass, linked to a service manager that was wearing one, weird.

  On 12/1/2013 at 9:42 AM, Phoenix said:

 

 

what is this from?

Quake!