People You Can't Stand

  On 1/28/2014 at 11:02 PM, chenGOD said:

I'm starting class in a couple of minutes - so no time to watch that, but unless they've discovered some process that violates the laws of thermodynamics, I'm afraid I'll disagree with it on principle.

Don't worry the laws of thermodynamics remain intact.

yes

'calories in > calories out = weight gain'

is technically true

but it doesn't indicate where the problem is

it just implicates gluttony and laziness

(which aren't the problem)

  On 1/28/2014 at 10:32 PM, disparaissant said:

i don't really see how it could be interpreted as the opposite of what he's saying, he's making a fat joke based on the principle of conservation of mass.

 

i don't really care about this argument anymore. it was an offhand tweet by a guy who's mostly alright in my book. everyone says busted shit from time to time. whatever.

This (essentially)

I'm gonna personify the State of the Union Address. K. BOO YOU SUCK STATE OF THE UNION

okay I'm now with all the people who dislike Neil Degrasse Tyson

  On 1/28/2014 at 10:36 PM, chenGOD said:

Back to people who can't stand: Clark.

is it because he's in a wheelchair? if so, that's fucked up man. seriously. have some re-cocking-spect

Did I say Hitler yet?

I can't stand Hitler

(bummer that he escaped to Brazil and lived for 30 more years)

  On 1/28/2014 at 8:19 PM, John Ehrlichman said:

 

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(joke)

 

i understand for the others and yourself but why me?!

wow some real sensitive people in this thread. most fat people are fat of their own volition. hypothyroidism has weight loss as a symptom, not weight gain. most diseases that cause weight gain are very rare. and yes, if you take in more calories than you burn, you gain weight. it is actually that simple. you can complicate it with genetic predisposition, disease, economic status, education on health etc, but for the majority of overweight people, the vast majority, especially in the united states, you are responsible for your obesity.

I can't stand people who aren't anorexic.

  On 1/29/2014 at 1:15 AM, zaphod said:

wow some real sensitive people in this thread. most fat people are fat of their own volition. hypothyroidism has weight loss as a symptom, not weight gain. most diseases that cause weight gain are very rare. and yes, if you take in more calories than you burn, you gain weight. it is actually that simple. you can complicate it with genetic predisposition, disease, economic status, education on health etc, but for the majority of overweight people, the vast majority, especially in the united states, you are responsible for your obesity.

If you really think that you should watch the video I posted on this page.

People who wear fur jackets

  On 1/28/2014 at 11:02 PM, chenGOD said:

I'm starting class in a couple of minutes - so no time to watch that, but unless they've discovered some process that violates the laws of thermodynamics, I'm afraid I'll disagree with it on principle.

You really should watch the robert lustig lecture. It's actually one of the most important and influential youtube videos published in the last few years. He is not a controversial figure either. His views are becoming the mainstream, with a few exceptions.

I can't state enough that you should watch the whole thing, even if some of the science is beyond you. He's a good communicator and you need to see the whole thing to really get your mind around what is going on.

  On 1/28/2014 at 11:14 PM, LimpyLoo said:

 

  On 1/28/2014 at 11:02 PM, chenGOD said:

I'm starting class in a couple of minutes - so no time to watch that, but unless they've discovered some process that violates the laws of thermodynamics, I'm afraid I'll disagree with it on principle.

Don't worry the laws of thermodynamics remain intact. yes 'calories in > calories out = weight gain' is technically true but it doesn't indicate where the problem is it just implicates gluttony and laziness (which aren't the problem)

I'm just not seeing how NDT's tweet implies that everyone who is fat is lazy and gluttonous. Delet: can you sum up the video for me? I'd watch it, but I'm afraid the length of it would be too much for my dull mind and I wouldn't be able to understand the science.

Edit: never mind, I googled Lustig - and I don't disagree with any of what he wrote. But if you read what he actually writes, he says: "Sugar in excess [emphasis mine] is a toxin, unrelated to its calories".¹ If you're taking in 2,000 calories of sugar/day, you will become diabetic and dead long before you become obese. Having just been to the US though, I can tell you that portion sizes there are unhealthy even if they have little sugar in them.

Excess consumption of anything will most likely have unhealthy results (too much water can lead to death for example).

So what I'm saying is - over-consumption of sugar (overeating) will lead to obesity. He's not refuting NDT's tweet at all.

And yes, i understand about the socioeconomic reasons for the poor health choices many Americans face daily - food deserts, time restraints, all that. Not once have I said that obesity is not the result of myriad issues.

All I'm saying is that NDT's tweet is a) not wrong, and b) not a jab at fat people.

1: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-lustig-md/sugar-toxic_b_2759564.html

  On 1/28/2014 at 11:45 PM, oscillik said:

  On 1/28/2014 at 10:36 PM, chenGOD said:

Back to people who can't stand: Clark.

 

is it because he's in a wheelchair? if so, that's fucked up man. seriously. have some re-cocking-spect

Read what I wrote?

  On 1/29/2014 at 3:07 AM, chenGOD said:

 

  On 1/28/2014 at 11:14 PM, LimpyLoo said:

 

  On 1/28/2014 at 11:02 PM, chenGOD said:

I'm starting class in a couple of minutes - so no time to watch that, but unless they've discovered some process that violates the laws of thermodynamics, I'm afraid I'll disagree with it on principle.

Don't worry the laws of thermodynamics remain intact.

 

yes

 

'calories in > calories out = weight gain'

 

is technically true

 

but it doesn't indicate where the problem is

 

it just implicates gluttony and laziness

 

(which aren't the problem)

 

I'm just not seeing how NDT's tweet implies that everyone who is fat is lazy and gluttonous.

 

Look, I have turned my back on NDT. He is dead to me.

I can't stand people who's always happy.

  On 1/29/2014 at 3:10 AM, chenGOD said:

 

  On 1/28/2014 at 11:45 PM, oscillik said:

 

  On 1/28/2014 at 10:36 PM, chenGOD said:

Back to people who can't stand: Clark.

is it because he's in a wheelchair? if so, that's fucked up man. seriously. have some re-cocking-spect

 

Read what I wrote?

 

woah

i just got that.

whats the world coming to if we cant rip on fat people for fucks sake.

  On 1/29/2014 at 3:11 AM, logakght said:

I can't stand people who's always happy.

So you go around ruining people's day, just so you can tolerate their company. hah

  On 1/29/2014 at 3:13 AM, oscillik said:

 

  On 1/29/2014 at 3:10 AM, chenGOD said:

 

  On 1/28/2014 at 11:45 PM, oscillik said:

 

  On 1/28/2014 at 10:36 PM, chenGOD said:

Back to people who can't stand: Clark.

is it because he's in a wheelchair? if so, that's fucked up man. seriously. have some re-cocking-spect

 

Read what I wrote?

 

woah

 

i just got that.

 

Apology accepted ;)

peter diamandis, i guess

i can stand him but he's a greasy futurist snake oil salesman imo

jon snow (reader of news)

stephen fry (widely held trivial beliefs discreditor)

i hate violent ppl (violent in any form)

  On 1/28/2014 at 10:52 PM, LimpyLoo said:

 

  On 1/28/2014 at 10:45 PM, chenGOD said:

It's not factually suspect - you don't gain weight without consuming more calories than you expend.

It's not a quip - it's a tweet - by virtue of the medium it will be brief. It's more along the lines of his continuing desire to correct myths that have propagated through folklore. Perhaps a link to a longer article would have been a good addition for the tweet, but I am sure he knew it would be taken controversially and create discussion.

The only way it is judgmental is possibly toward people who have never taken physics.

 

That's one of those old truisms that turned out to not be true.

 

 

 

(and I might've given NDT more credit than he deserved...I thought based on the way he phrased the tweet that it was a nuanced critique of prevailing wisdom but I think NDT might actually be a dunce on matters like this)

 

Thanks for sharing the video. I've watched some other documentaries that talk about high fructose corn syrup as a toxin, but didn't go in depth with the science like this one has.

  On 1/29/2014 at 3:37 AM, xox said:

i hate violent ppl (violent in any form)

Emotionally violent? Like hating people?

  On 1/29/2014 at 3:37 AM, xox said:

i hate violent ppl (violent in any form)

hate is a form of violence

  On 1/29/2014 at 3:18 AM, delet... said:

 

  On 1/29/2014 at 3:11 AM, logakght said:

I can't stand people who's always happy.

 

So you go around ruining people's day, just so you can tolerate their company. hah

 

Nah. I like to be happy and shit. But some seople pimply starts to act like a fool fool of fock. Like... we need sadness in order to feel happiness, right?