"American Anthrax" a Media Roots film production

I've also noticed what godel said. They're a nice couple of kids, parents brought them up right.

https://soundcloud.com/media-roots/media-roots-radio-american

i'm passing out by the end of this but this is about an hour worth of commentary by Abby and myself on American Anthrax. More or less the same discussion in the RT video but much more in depth

Edited February 1, 2014 by John Ehrlichman

well presented.

 

i did lol at the opening of the program though, with the tank firing at you and the paper world. it looks like a parody of mtv news.

almost 6,000 views of the movie so far, needs to get out there more. Help push it to 10,000 if you think the information is important, tweet, facebook or whatever methods you have at your disposal.

JE, it's clear you did your due diligence with this project. I'll try to buckle down and watch it tonight.

  On 2/3/2014 at 10:22 PM, John Ehrlichman said:

almost 6,000 views of the movie so far, needs to get out there more. Help push it to 10,000 if you think the information is important, tweet, facebook or whatever methods you have at your disposal.

 

Mission is accepted, general Notobama. I'm gonna kill if needed.

Great doc, JE.

 

I appreciate that it's understated. I think the fatal flaw of many documentaries is heavy-handedness.

thanks for checking it out. just got word It will be playing at a film festival out here in September of 2014. And i'll probably be going on Tyrel Ventura's 'buzzsaw' show to speak out it in the next few weeks. I'll give out details here as soon as i have them

forgive me for resurrecting an old thread, but the the anniversary of the 2001 anthrax attacks just passed. I put together this 2.5 hour podcast combing over the details of the anthrax attacks with author Graeme Mcqueen

Edited September 17, 2015 by John Ehrlichman

While I've not yet watched this (just saw the thread & bookmarked it), I want to send some props out to Awepittance for continuing to fight the good fight with research & articulateness.

hacker caught in a child porn sting claims he hacked into US government computers and found documents implicating the CIA in the 2001 anthrax attacks

http://www.buzzfeed.com/davidkushner/matt-dehart?utm_term=.tnqo48B2V#.rkev1N6az

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As Matt read through the file, he says, he discovered even more incendiary material among the 300-odd pages of slides, documents, and handwritten notes. One folder contained what appeared to be internal documents from an agrochemical company expressing culpability for more than 13,000 deaths related to genetically modified organisms. There was also what appeared to be internal documents from the FBI, field notes on the bureau’s investigation into the worst biological attack in U.S. history: the anthrax-laced letters that killed five Americans and sickened 17 others shortly after Sept. 11.

Though the attacks were officially blamed on a government scientist who committed suicide after he was identified as a suspect, Matt says the documents on the Shell tell a far different story. It had already been revealed that the U.S. Army produced the Ames strain of anthrax — the same strain used in the Amerithrax attacks — at the Dugway Proving Ground in Utah. But the report built the case that the CIA was behind the attacks as part of an operation to fuel public terror and build support for the Iraq War.

im going to go out on a limb and say that an actual smoking gun piece of evidence is coming up in the not too distant future

wow, just wow. i must say that was really inspiring documentary. i haven't even never heard of those 'anthrax attacks' before watching the video. sure i've heard lot of speculations of the 9/11 but nothing about this. can't really blame me, eh? i haven't watch any of u.s tv, from that i'm a finn. haha

anyway. i'm amazed how you really have dig in to this matter, how well made that piece of video was. you didn't really claim anything, you led all those vootages to speak to them selfs. i think i will continue to read about this.

 

i could love to share this, but i don't have facebook account atm. haha and by the way for all that talk about how that music didn't fit there is crap. it fitted in there nicely.

well done!

 

one look at pearle and cheney and it's fucking illuminati nightmare's and devils personified.

 

No trope needed here as these guys just look evil and are the embodiment of the controlling 000000.1%

 

The truly frightening part is what is next...Jeb Bush for president and then an Iranian invasion,but will the US be treated to another false flag attack to accomplish this?

 

*shivers like the 15 year old kid at the rave, up against the sweaty wall , in the corner,strobes flashing,mind melting who has taken too much e and isn't having fun anymore,

 

I was lucky enough to hear Burroughs say "paranoia is a heightened state of awareness" while talking to him at an art gallery in the L.E.S in the mid 90's

  On 3/21/2015 at 12:42 AM, kymppinetti said:

wow, just wow. i must say that was really inspiring documentary. i haven't even never heard of those 'anthrax attacks' before watching the video. sure i've heard lot of speculations of the 9/11 but nothing about this. can't really blame me, eh? i haven't watch any of u.s tv, from that i'm a finn. haha

anyway. i'm amazed how you really have dig in to this matter, how well made that piece of video was. you didn't really claim anything, you led all those vootages to speak to them selfs. i think i will continue to read about this.

 

i could love to share this, but i don't have facebook account atm. haha and by the way for all that talk about how that music didn't fit there is crap. it fitted in there nicely.

appreciate the feedback, tbh this is exactly the type of feedback i would hope to hear about putting this together. The Anthrax attacks were brushed under the rug for a reason, and based on what i've found.. for a very good reason. So don't feel out of the loop or uninformed for not knowing about them, i bet if you polled most Americans wouldn't even remember them let alone realize it was the integral fear component to allow for a war against Iraq (as well as Afghanistan)

Not sure what took me so long, but I just watched it. Some good editing and use of music.

 

#feelingoutraged

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Is it possible DOJ would really go after DeHart for having seen and retaining part of that FBI file?

For what it’s worth, I think Bruce Ivins could not have been the sole culprit and it’s unlikely he was the culprit at all. I believe the possibility that a CIA-related entity, especially a contractor or an alumni, had a role in the anthrax attack to be possible. In my opinion, Batelle Labs in Ohio are the most likely source of the anthrax, not least because they’re close enough to New Jersey to have launched the attacks, but because — in addition to dismissing potential matches to the actual anthrax through a bunch of smoke (only looking for lone wolves) and mirrors (ignoring four of the potentially responsive samples) — Batelle did have a responsive sample of the anthrax. Though as a recently GAO report made clear, FBI didn’t even sample all the labs that had potentially responsive samples, so perhaps one of those labs should be considered a more likely source. Batelle does work for the CIA and just about everyone else, so if Batelle were involved, CIA involvement couldn’t be ruled out.

So I think it quite possible that FBI was investigating CIA or someone related to CIA in the attack. It’s quite possible, too, that someone might want to leak that information, as it has been clear for years that at least some in FBI were not really all that interested in solving the crime. Even the timing would make sense, coming as it would have in the wake of the FBI’s use of the Ivins suicide to stop looking for a culprit and even as the Obama Administration was beginning to hint it wasn’t all that interested in reviewing FBI’s investigation.

https://www.emptywheel.net/2015/03/20/is-matt-dehart-being-prosecuted-because-fbi-investigated-cia-for-the-anthrax-leak/

 

writer of the article doubts the authenticity of Matt Dehart's claim of seeing documents, however she has no doubt that internal factions of the government (like the FBI) would have suspected CIA involvement in the actual attacks

 

Edited March 22, 2015 by John Ehrlichman

Nice, this just got mentioned on JRE today (as well as Abby going into detail about the whole fiasco). Big up, dude! Hope that gets you some well deserved publicity.

haha i saw that, really exciting. she was on young turks today apparently but i didn't even know it was happening, anyone have a link?

new stuff came out last week too. One of the lead FBI investigators in the 2001 anthrax case is suing the US justice dept for intentionally misdirecting the investigation and for punishing him (demoting him) for raising concerns about the validity of Bruce Ivin's guilt.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/04/16/former-fbi-director-alleges-agency-concealing-evidence-in-anthrax-case/

http://www.infozine.com/news/stories/op/storiesView/sid/61632/

just spoke at length with the woman in the 2nd article Meryl Nass, extremely informed on the subject and used to communicate with Bruce Ivins when he was still alive. More to come on the 2001 anthrax attacks down the road, im toying with the idea of making a proper 'professional' style documentary following the same template. Curious what others here who liked the movie think of the idea of expanding it into something with interviews, original filmed broll, new investigations into the story, narration, etc.

I just finished a new movie in a similar found footage style to this one about the new cold war paradigm, ill post it here once it's ready, it will be free/streaming.

Edited April 17, 2015 by John Ehrlichman

I definitely think it'd be worth it to, if not make an entirely new film, at least revise the existing one with these new events/information.

 

 

American Anthrax 2: Lie Harder

Edited April 17, 2015 by autopilot

  On 4/17/2015 at 9:47 AM, John Ehrlichman said:

just spoke at length with the woman in the 2nd article Meryl Nass, extremely informed on the subject and used to communicate with Bruce Ivins when he was still alive. More to come on the 2001 anthrax attacks down the road, im toying with the idea of making a proper 'professional' style documentary following the same template. Curious what others here who liked the movie think of the idea of expanding it into something with interviews, original filmed broll, new investigations into the story, narration, etc.

 

I would love to see an updated version of it. Actually, if you want help with some of it, I'd be happy to lend a hand (recording, editing, voice over, etc).

I think you sort of have a duty to do it if you're capable and already this entrenched in it. People need to be consistently shown that their government is fucking them over hard. Something well put together that illustrates even more culpability could be potentially groundbreaking. Also, I saw Abby plugged your doc on JRE recently which was cool.

working on a major overhaul of American Anthrax now but uploaded a new cleaner/slightly updated version to youtube here

also planning a DVD release with 2 hours of bonus footage, details to be announced



edit: Colin, going to seriously take you up on your offer of doing voiceover work. sending you a message now Edited September 17, 2015 by John Ehrlichman

follow up / spiritual sequel to American Anthrax is finished, here is the trailer


(nsfw: profanity and scenes of violence)
A Very Heavy Agenda

i'll probably make a new thread if people are ok with the spamminess of it

edit: music in the first part of the trailer is composed by Wisp/arranged by me Edited September 27, 2015 by John Ehrlichman

i'm ok with it, it's a new thing.