Squarepusher X Z-machines: Music For Robots - EP 05 April 2014

Sounds like everyone wants something different!!

Good thing he usually delivers something at least slightly different, from year to year.

Dissolver was great!

it's not his best works but i love this EP, will be a classic one day...

I wonder if this is enough revolutionary to put robots instead of humans for unplayable scores by men...

Otherwise, why is this extraordinary to let robots to play these titles (and thus spend a fortune for this project) while the computer and MAO is enough to do it? (Although these titles are so good!)

Will Squarepusher play live with these fucking robots?

A very good album, but these robots are useless...

  On 7/17/2014 at 5:44 PM, Anchio Arch io Son Pittore said:

I wonder if this is enough revolutionary to put robots instead of humans for unplayable scores by men...

 

Otherwise, why is this extraordinary to let robots to play these titles (and thus spend a fortune for this project) while the computer and MAO is enough to do it? (Although these titles are so good!)

 

Will Squarepusher play live with these fucking robots?

 

A very good album, but these robots are useless...

huh?

The whole point of this endeavor was to push the instruments to their limit. There are physical limitations to human ability and the instruments (for example, how many guitar strings do you think they broke doing this?)

  On 7/17/2014 at 11:39 PM, StephenG said:

 

  On 7/17/2014 at 5:44 PM, Anchio Arch io Son Pittore said:

I wonder if this is enough revolutionary to put robots instead of humans for unplayable scores by men...

 

Otherwise, why is this extraordinary to let robots to play these titles (and thus spend a fortune for this project) while the computer and MAO is enough to do it? (Although these titles are so good!)

 

Will Squarepusher play live with these fucking robots?

 

A very good album, but these robots are useless...

 

huh?

 

The whole point of this endeavor was to push the instruments to their limit. There are physical limitations to human ability and the instruments (for example, how many guitar strings do you think they broke doing this?)

 

Yes but so what? To prove what? Robots could replace humans? I saw the videos and I'm not particularly attracted to this sort of thing. It is impressive once, then that's all, bye! I do not see what could give later as new... it makes no sense ... i don't imagine a live with them... money! money! money! it's just for pleasure... Then we won't hear more about these robots... it'll be ephemeral...

  On 7/18/2014 at 12:41 AM, Anchio Arch io Son Pittore said:

 

  On 7/17/2014 at 11:39 PM, StephenG said:

 

  On 7/17/2014 at 5:44 PM, Anchio Arch io Son Pittore said:

I wonder if this is enough revolutionary to put robots instead of humans for unplayable scores by men...

 

Otherwise, why is this extraordinary to let robots to play these titles (and thus spend a fortune for this project) while the computer and MAO is enough to do it? (Although these titles are so good!)

 

Will Squarepusher play live with these fucking robots?

 

A very good album, but these robots are useless...

 

huh?

 

The whole point of this endeavor was to push the instruments to their limit. There are physical limitations to human ability and the instruments (for example, how many guitar strings do you think they broke doing this?)

 

Yes but so what? To prove what? Robots could replace humans? I saw the videos and I'm not particularly attracted to this sort of thing. It is impressive once, then that's all, bye! I do not see what could give later as new... it makes no sense ... i don't imagine a live with them... money! money! money! it's just for pleasure... Then we won't hear more about these robots... it'll be ephemeral...

 

No not replace humans. It's just to show the very limits of what can be done with acoustic/analogue equipment.

Why do humans build ridiculously tall buildings? To prove what?

Just cause. Exploring the limitations of the medium and instruments has always been what squarepusher was about. Go plastic was no different really. He was exploring how far jungle and the amen can be pushed.

  On 7/18/2014 at 2:31 AM, StephenG said:

 

  On 7/18/2014 at 12:41 AM, Anchio Arch io Son Pittore said:

 

  On 7/17/2014 at 11:39 PM, StephenG said:

 

  On 7/17/2014 at 5:44 PM, Anchio Arch io Son Pittore said:

I wonder if this is enough revolutionary to put robots instead of humans for unplayable scores by men...

 

Otherwise, why is this extraordinary to let robots to play these titles (and thus spend a fortune for this project) while the computer and MAO is enough to do it? (Although these titles are so good!)

 

Will Squarepusher play live with these fucking robots?

 

A very good album, but these robots are useless...

 

huh?

 

The whole point of this endeavor was to push the instruments to their limit. There are physical limitations to human ability and the instruments (for example, how many guitar strings do you think they broke doing this?)

 

Yes but so what? To prove what? Robots could replace humans? I saw the videos and I'm not particularly attracted to this sort of thing. It is impressive once, then that's all, bye! I do not see what could give later as new... it makes no sense ... i don't imagine a live with them... money! money! money! it's just for pleasure... Then we won't hear more about these robots... it'll be ephemeral...

 

 

No not replace humans. It's just to show the very limits of what can be done with acoustic/analogue equipment.

 

Why do humans build ridiculously tall buildings? To prove what?

 

Just cause. Exploring the limitations of the medium and instruments has always been what squarepusher was about. Go plastic was no different really. He was exploring how far jungle and the amen can be pushed.

 

I'm not sure, I do not think it is to show the limits, it's just for fun, nothing more. What would help us, otherwise? this analysis will lead us nowhere... because it has already been done differently but without these robots in human form, it's just another version to prove how far the human limit would go and same thing for the machine limit...

"Why do humans build ridiculously tall buildings? To prove what?" --> lol stupid question, it is for the place, otherwise if buildings are less high but are made in width, it would take too much space...

Squarepusher don't need these robots to show anything, it's just for fun, but now, I am convinced that this project is shit and will be quickly forgotten, except in Japan, strange but interesting country...

He stated everything I'm saying (other than the go plastic bit) in an interview recently. I will find it for you. Unless he's lying about the point of his own work then it's true.

  On 7/18/2014 at 10:36 AM, Anchio Arch io Son Pittore said:

 

  On 7/18/2014 at 2:31 AM, StephenG said:

 

  On 7/18/2014 at 12:41 AM, Anchio Arch io Son Pittore said:

 

  On 7/17/2014 at 11:39 PM, StephenG said:

 

  On 7/17/2014 at 5:44 PM, Anchio Arch io Son Pittore said:

I wonder if this is enough revolutionary to put robots instead of humans for unplayable scores by men...

 

Otherwise, why is this extraordinary to let robots to play these titles (and thus spend a fortune for this project) while the computer and MAO is enough to do it? (Although these titles are so good!)

 

Will Squarepusher play live with these fucking robots?

 

A very good album, but these robots are useless...

 

huh?

 

The whole point of this endeavor was to push the instruments to their limit. There are physical limitations to human ability and the instruments (for example, how many guitar strings do you think they broke doing this?)

 

Yes but so what? To prove what? Robots could replace humans? I saw the videos and I'm not particularly attracted to this sort of thing. It is impressive once, then that's all, bye! I do not see what could give later as new... it makes no sense ... i don't imagine a live with them... money! money! money! it's just for pleasure... Then we won't hear more about these robots... it'll be ephemeral...

 

 

No not replace humans. It's just to show the very limits of what can be done with acoustic/analogue equipment.

 

Why do humans build ridiculously tall buildings? To prove what?

 

Just cause. Exploring the limitations of the medium and instruments has always been what squarepusher was about. Go plastic was no different really. He was exploring how far jungle and the amen can be pushed.

 

 

 

"Why do humans build ridiculously tall buildings? To prove what?" --> lol stupid question, it is for the place, otherwise if buildings are less high but are made in width, it would take too much space...

 

 

 

Excuse me?

Do you mean to tell me this building, the tallest building in the world, was built to save space? In the vast empty desert all around it? And the CN tower, which isn't even habitable, wasn't built just because it's a human feat?

What?

  On 7/18/2014 at 1:47 PM, StephenG said:

  On 7/18/2014 at 10:36 AM, Anchio Arch io Son Pittore said:

"Why do humans build ridiculously tall buildings? To prove what?" --> lol stupid question, it is for the place, otherwise if buildings are less high but are made in width, it would take too much space...

Excuse me?

 

Do you mean to tell me this building, the tallest building in the world, was built to save space? In the vast empty desert all around it? And the CN tower, which isn't even habitable, wasn't built just because it's a human feat?

 

What?

 

yeah... if you are a graphic designer, you know the importance of white space which occupy the field (on paper or whatever)... after there is the design to make it nice...

I'll dig out that interview for you that SP did recently.

  On 7/18/2014 at 2:34 PM, StephenG said:

I'll dig out that interview for you that SP did recently.

Cool! Thanks in advance, i'm really interresting of it.

I think this is the one but don't have time to scroll through it. Might be a diff one.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/14/tech/meet-the-robot-guitarist/

Having a re-listen, pretty good, i just think he put the tracks in the wrong order

  On 8/29/2014 at 3:57 AM, Schlitze said:

Having a re-listen, pretty good, i just think he put the tracks in the wrong order

for a little mini release, I thought it has a nice flow and progression to the track order.

what would you suggest otherwise? :)

Tracks 2, 3,1,5,4

Dunno, something like that. I didn't find a flow to it on the first few listens. I'm getting lost in the tracks more now, track order is becoming less relevant. Yeah, this record is a grower.

mhmm... i'm not agree with this order, 'cause the actual order is a technique progression and ... Don't forget that it's necessary to program robots and in a progressive way also, that's with more and more complex techniques...

Just found this in my record store, was a bit disappointed at first listen mostly because I thought there would be a lot more of drums on here. Sad Robot, Dissolver are huge tracks, Endless You is really lovely, but I don't think the two others are that interesting - they might grow up on me tho...

To me, Music For Robots is almost like Shobaleader One vol. II - without the vocals, but pushing the concept always further. Would love to hear what JAS recorded with those robots would sound like !

world three is my fav, def a grower

  On 11/6/2014 at 12:21 AM, StocKo said:

To me, Music For Robots is almost like Shobaleader One vol. II - without the vocals, but pushing the concept always further.

wow. wha? how so??

my 2 cents

shobaleader to me I think is... jam based? between him and the drummer guy who he performed live with? with the drumkit rigged up to trigger 909 samples(or actual 909?) or something? so it's a lot more loose and open and kind of letting a bit of light hearted fun get in the mix (ie the cheese colourful vibes, the funk, etc.).

and I guess like.. the music for robtots ep is a continuation of some of squarepushers previous themes.. blurring the lines between live performance and produced music. playing on that interplay between machine/human producing music etc etc etc. but the way the music was specially designed for the robots makes it a pretty unique concept in how it was written + executed as far as squarepusher catalogue goes?

I think we need an speculation thread about what the next squarepusher release will sound like at this point.

  On 11/7/2014 at 1:42 PM, bitroast said:

 

  On 11/6/2014 at 12:21 AM, StocKo said:

To me, Music For Robots is almost like Shobaleader One vol. II - without the vocals, but pushing the concept always further.

 

shobaleader to me I think is... jam based? between him and the drummer guy who he performed live with? with the drumkit rigged up to trigger 909 samples(or actual 909?) or something? so it's a lot more loose and open and kind of letting a bit of light hearted fun get in the mix (ie the cheese colourful vibes, the funk, etc.).

and I guess like.. the music for robtots ep is a continuation of some of squarepushers previous themes.. blurring the lines between live performance and produced music. playing on that interplay between machine/human producing music etc etc etc. but the way the music was specially designed for the robots makes it a pretty unique concept in how it was written + executed as far as squarepusher catalogue goes?

 

Yeah but I feel like it's basically the same concept approached from different angles. Something like :

JAS --> Okay I'm the Squarepusher but let's record an album as if it was made by a jazz/rock band.

Shobaleader --> Okay that was cool now I'll just pretend I actually have a band.

Music For Robots --> Holy crap now I have a band of people doing exactly what I want them to do (ie. robots).

Idk, that's just how I see those releases, but they're all great nonetheless (I even started liking Remote Amber, but then I realized I was playing it at 45RPM instead of 33RPM lol...)

  On 11/7/2014 at 11:40 PM, pissflaps said:

I think we need an speculation thread about what the next squarepusher release will sound like at this point.

Problem is, it's really hard to figure out, really harder than imagining what next AFX/Ae/Boc will sound like...

  On 11/8/2014 at 11:32 AM, StocKo said:

 

  On 11/7/2014 at 1:42 PM, bitroast said:

 

  On 11/6/2014 at 12:21 AM, StocKo said:

To me, Music For Robots is almost like Shobaleader One vol. II - without the vocals, but pushing the concept always further.

 

shobaleader to me I think is... jam based? between him and the drummer guy who he performed live with? with the drumkit rigged up to trigger 909 samples(or actual 909?) or something? so it's a lot more loose and open and kind of letting a bit of light hearted fun get in the mix (ie the cheese colourful vibes, the funk, etc.).

and I guess like.. the music for robtots ep is a continuation of some of squarepushers previous themes.. blurring the lines between live performance and produced music. playing on that interplay between machine/human producing music etc etc etc. but the way the music was specially designed for the robots makes it a pretty unique concept in how it was written + executed as far as squarepusher catalogue goes?

 

 

Yeah but I feel like it's basically the same concept approached from different angles. Something like :

JAS --> Okay I'm the Squarepusher but let's record an album as if it was made by a jazz/rock band.

Shobaleader --> Okay that was cool now I'll just pretend I actually have a band.

Music For Robots --> Holy crap now I have a band of people doing exactly what I want them to do (ie. robots).

 

Idk, that's just how I see those releases, but they're all great nonetheless (I even started liking Remote Amber, but then I realized I was playing it at 45RPM instead of 33RPM lol...)

 

 

ahh that makes sense!

on a slightly related note,

ultravisitor and just a souvenir feel like same concept from different angles as well.

ultravisitor, with its live audience/cheering cuts all over the album. songs that sound like live instruments that build up this image of a live band playing it if you give in to the fantasy. then that's blown out of water with crazy drum n bass/psychedelic/DSP ridden tracks that flip the live band image on its head.

just a souvenir has a similar idea, being a live alien band playing space garage rock infront of a neon coathanger (as per the press release).

and then... shobaleader one... with its crazy writeup about the band members (altho listening to the music it doesn't really sound like a band.. it still just sounds like squarepusher doing solo sega pop).

and then!!! again. yes. the music for robots ep.

it's like he's fixated on this idea of some make believe live band that can play impossible music. different albums playing on similar ideas from different angles :)

Yeah indeed !

I always thought that Ultravisitor was a really narrative piece of music, unlike Just A Souvenir.

The album title and the photograph of the sleeve always make me think of a guy coming to a gig and stealing the show, playing bass and mad beats and killing the audience (he interacts with the crowd at the beginning of Tetra-Sync which really sounds like a funeral song or something, and after that track you don't hear any crowd noise on the album). Maybe I'm just over-analyzing the album but it's probably the one I listened to the most, as well as my favorite

nah, it's good. ultravisitor is a puzzle. everyone can get something a little different from it :)