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  On 4/19/2014 at 4:06 AM, Deion Sanders said:

 

  On 4/19/2014 at 3:44 AM, LimpyLoo said:

 

  On 4/19/2014 at 3:38 AM, NorthernFusion said:

 

  On 4/19/2014 at 2:16 AM, LimpyLoo said:

i love VSnares. Do you folks who don't like VSnares not like any (for lack of a better term) extreme breakcore?

He's talented, sure. But I just don't find it enjoyable at all. :cerious:

 

 

Do you like any breakcore?

 

 

No, breakcore is silly.

 

Hecker

Merzbow

Dominick Fernow (all projects)

James Blake

Arthur Russell

Scott Walker

Neutral Milk Hotel

Xiu Xiu

Bill Callahan

Russell Haswell

etc.

 

 

Of course you don't understand.

 

You exclusively listen to aural magnolia.

 

 

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  On 4/19/2014 at 9:52 AM, hello spiral said:

Of course you don't understand.

 

You exclusively listen to aural magnolia.

 

 

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Vsnares (except a couple of tracks)

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I´ve never really gotten into Team Doyobi. I like Demons to Diamonds/Little Plastic Brick, but I haven´t found anything else that I really enjoy by them. I´m open for suggestions.

Also, I´m waiting for Merzbow to tell us that it was all just a big joke.

  On 4/19/2014 at 10:29 AM, Deion Sanders said:

 

  On 4/19/2014 at 9:52 AM, hello spiral said:

Of course you don't understand.

 

You exclusively listen to aural magnolia.

 

 

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  On 4/19/2014 at 10:57 AM, scumtron said:

Vsnares (except a couple of tracks)

Snd

I´ve never really gotten into Team Doyobi. I like Demons to Diamonds/Little Plastic Brick, but I haven´t found anything else that I really enjoy by them. I´m open for suggestions.

Also, I´m waiting for Merzbow to tell us that it was all just a big joke.

 

wat

 

http://www.discogs.com/Merzbow-Scumtron/release/208888

  On 4/20/2014 at 5:51 AM, Mesh Gear Fox said:

whine whine whine whine whine

 

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whine whine

 

whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine....whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine.

Sorry, I slipped into a coma induced by your whining.

  On 4/20/2014 at 6:06 AM, Mesh Gear Fox said:

you can't drown out the truth :)

What truth? lol

 

All I saw there was a whine session, for no reason. A thread never met your expectations? Boohoo.

 

That's the honest truth. :cisfor:

  On 4/20/2014 at 6:13 AM, Mesh Gear Fox said:

you mean like the whining that is going on ITT about bands people don't get because they're closed minded nitwits who cannot see why others might get something they don't? pardon me for the negativity

Pardoned :cisfor:

Merzbow

 

  On 1/19/2020 at 5:27 PM, Richie Sombrero said:

Nah, you're a wee child who can't wait for official release. Embarrassing. Shove your privilege. 

  On 9/2/2014 at 12:37 AM, Ivan Ooze said:

don't be a cockroach prolapsing nun bulkV

I'm not sure what stars of the lid is...

 

But I can't stand merzbow. There's a reason he has 900 albums, and I don't think it's prolifery. That's my opinion of course.

 

  On 1/19/2020 at 5:27 PM, Richie Sombrero said:

Nah, you're a wee child who can't wait for official release. Embarrassing. Shove your privilege. 

  On 9/2/2014 at 12:37 AM, Ivan Ooze said:

don't be a cockroach prolapsing nun bulkV

  On 4/20/2014 at 4:21 AM, data said:

anything in the eurovision song contest from 1990 and onwards, and 99% of everything before 1990.

dude no

 

 

  On 2/26/2015 at 9:39 AM, RupturedSouls said:

This drugs makes me feel like I'm on song!

  On 9/1/2014 at 5:50 PM, StephenG said:

I'm hardly a closed minded nun. Remember, I'm on a fucking IDM forum.... an IDM forum.. Think about that for a second before claiming people are closed minded nuns.

  On 4/20/2014 at 4:21 AM, data said:

everything before 1990.

 

Ha. I get irony.

 

Good thread concept, but I already know half the opinions shared in this thread will only make me angry. So I've tried not to read it... but Merzbow owns all of us when it comes to creating an entire fucking genre of music, so :cisfor:

How many of you have actually been to a noise show?

 

As for artists where I can't actually understand the popularity... I'm sad to say there aren't any, because any time something shitty becomes really popular it only confirms my worst convictions about humanity in general. But I'd like to say Simple Plan, Hedley, Soulja Boy, Fallout Boy and Kanye West.

Music does not equal noise.

 

I could just scream and shout random things and sequence them, that's not artistic. That's retardation.

 

No offense but I think there is a massive reason that merzbow has 2309450109421098410408 albums and it's not because he's prolific, it's because it's random noise. People can try and justify it any way they want.

 

I'm not trying to offend anyone, I just seriously don't understand how anyone can consider it anything but random noise. And I don't consider that skillful... Maybe I'm too stupid to understand merzbow, maybe it's a higher level than what I can understand (lol).

 

NOISE, by definition, is not music. This is not WATNM...

 

  On 1/19/2020 at 5:27 PM, Richie Sombrero said:

Nah, you're a wee child who can't wait for official release. Embarrassing. Shove your privilege. 

  On 9/2/2014 at 12:37 AM, Ivan Ooze said:

don't be a cockroach prolapsing nun bulkV

wow there was this level of noise and then there was a different level! There was this level of distortion, and then there was a different level of distortion! Time passed, and some parameters were changing! None of it is rhythmic or melodic... So it's not music.

 

  On 1/19/2020 at 5:27 PM, Richie Sombrero said:

Nah, you're a wee child who can't wait for official release. Embarrassing. Shove your privilege. 

  On 9/2/2014 at 12:37 AM, Ivan Ooze said:

don't be a cockroach prolapsing nun bulkV

  On 4/20/2014 at 8:41 AM, StephenG said:

wow there was this level of noise and then there was a different level! There was this level of distortion, and then there was a different level of distortion! Time passed, and some parameters were changing! None of it is rhythmic or melodic... So it's not music.

 

it's sound arranged in a way that's aesthetically pleasing to people who enjoy that sort of sound, just like Shania Twain's voice is a combination of rhythm and melody that is aesthetically pleasing to people who are into that. I personally find most nu country to be nauseating despite it being rooted in things that are traditionally perceived as musical. To me it sounds cheesy, predictable, and easy to mimick. As for Merzbow, I haven't heard anyone else make noise quite like he does, and it's inspired me to make noise music of my own. Most other noise artists sound pretty amateurish by comparison, which is not surprising given that he's been doing it for 30+ years. Apparently most people cannot discern the noise he makes from the sound of their own kitchen appliances, but to me there is a drastic and obvious difference. He's not just randomly screaming and pushing effects pedals, though I've heard and witnessed a lot of noise music that does seem like just that.

As someone who's made pop/metal/folk/electronic and also noise music, I can say noise would be the most difficult for me to get to a point I am satisfied with, were it not for the fact that good lyrics are hard to write. But as for the composition/performance aspect, I find noise to be the most challenging. That said, it's no surprise to me that most people can't stand it.

I can't really think of anything. I think the music I dislike most I dislike specifically because I know why someone would like it, and I think those reasons are stupid. But even then, I can't deny people feeling legitimate connections to music, even with bands hated universally like Nickelback or Attack! Attack!. Jandek is pretty unbearable most of the time, but he's hilarious anyway and I guess I kind of like him myself.

 

I'd say I'm more on the other side with being unable to understand why someone would think certain things are complete shit, like:

  On 4/19/2014 at 1:34 AM, LimpyLoo said:

Mountain Goats

I guess if you don't like his voice or if you don't like the whole folksy singer-with-guitar thing that makes sense, but I don't understand how anyone would be unable to understand why someone would like him, especially considering how good of a writer he is. Like, can you honestly read the lyrics for The Young Thousands and go "Yeah he's a shitty writer I have no clue why someone would like that"? Personally, I think that John Darnielle is one of the best lyricists alive right now.

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  On 4/20/2014 at 8:37 AM, StephenG said:

Music does not equal noise.

 

I could just scream and shout random things and sequence them, that's not artistic. That's retardation.

 

No offense but I think there is a massive reason that merzbow has 2309450109421098410408 albums and it's not because he's prolific, it's because it's random noise. People can try and justify it any way they want.

 

I'm not trying to offend anyone, I just seriously don't understand how anyone can consider it anything but random noise. And I don't consider that skillful... Maybe I'm too stupid to understand merzbow, maybe it's a higher level than what I can understand (lol).

 

NOISE, by definition, is not music. This is not WATNM...

 

 

Salutations fellow hater of fun.

 

 

Also I don't know what definition of music you are going by but every definition I have heard, the majority of noise fits, funny that.

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Noise music is really just ambient without as much tonal stuff. It's as much about aesthetics as any other music; it portrays emotion through sound, most frequently anger of despair, although can also portray other moods.

  On 4/20/2014 at 8:37 AM, StephenG said:

Music does not equal noise.

 

I could just scream and shout random things and sequence them, that's not artistic. That's retardation.

 

No offense but I think there is a massive reason that merzbow has 2309450109421098410408 albums and it's not because he's prolific, it's because it's random noise. People can try and justify it any way they want.

 

I'm not trying to offend anyone, I just seriously don't understand how anyone can consider it anything but random noise. And I don't consider that skillful... Maybe I'm too stupid to understand merzbow, maybe it's a higher level than what I can understand (lol).

 

NOISE, by definition, is not music. This is not WATNM...

iunno man, I like it.

 

aphex and autechre can get pretty noisy at times.

 

back on topic:

iunno how ppl can actually like what's played on the radio or popular clubs nowadays. I honestly think they just "like" it to fit in.

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