Adieu Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 I'm going to check this out, but I just need a little break from horrible paranoia inducing information for a little while. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Adieu's signature Hide all signatures There will be new love from the ashes of us. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/83532-united-states-of-secrets-frontline-pbs/page/2/#findComment-2168455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublename Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 On 5/27/2014 at 9:52 PM, AdieuErsatzEnnui said: I'm going to check this out, but I just need a little break from horrible paranoia inducing information for a little while. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/83532-united-states-of-secrets-frontline-pbs/page/2/#findComment-2168457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calx Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 Quote The man who helped bring about the most significant leak in American intelligence history is to reveal names of US citizens targeted by their own government in what he promises will be the biggest revelation from nearly 2m classified files. Glenn Greenwald, the journalist who received the trove of documents from Edward Snowden, a former National Security Agency (NSA) contractor, told The Sunday Times that Snowdens legacy would be shaped in large part by this finishing piece still to come. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2014/05/26/greenwalds_finale_naming_victims_of_surveillance_122747.html Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/83532-united-states-of-secrets-frontline-pbs/page/2/#findComment-2168534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 Quote Greenwald has even debated Gen Michael Hayden, a former NSA and CIA director, in Toronto. A famously aggressive and relentless former lawyer, Greenwald refused to engage in any social niceties with his adversary Would love to see the footage of this debate. Although I'm sure Hayden woulnd't move from his position in public. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/83532-united-states-of-secrets-frontline-pbs/page/2/#findComment-2168574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 (edited) For those interested http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_d1tw3mEOoE Hayden is allowed to open the argument... In a pretty cringeworthy way... Edited May 28, 2014 by goDel Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/83532-united-states-of-secrets-frontline-pbs/page/2/#findComment-2168576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted May 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 (edited) On 5/28/2014 at 4:10 AM, goDel said: For those interested http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_d1tw3mEOoE Hayden is allowed to open the argument... In a pretty cringeworthy way... I loved watching the debate, super frustrating at times. I'm not sure Glenn Greenwald was at his best in this debate. Part of me can totally understand getting visibly angry/agitated at Hayden's bald face lying but i thought he lost his cool a little bit too much. I wish they put up someone like Jonathan Turley instead of that other guy (who I've never heard of) not sure if this has been mentioned yet but Brian Williams of ABC got the first American TV interview with Snowden in person, airing tomorrow night (wed) at 10pm est first picture is lol, someone made a good LOTR photoshop on it that I can't find of brian williams as gandalf and snowden as bilbo the little bit of video they tease of Snowden makes him seem very Thomas Drake-esque, like a semi aspergers cryptography/coding expert. Not surprised a lot of guys in the intelligence communities have this type of personality. I didn't pick up on that in his previous appearances, he seems far more self possessed and intense in this ABC interview, can't wait to watch it. Edited May 28, 2014 by John Ehrlichman Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/83532-united-states-of-secrets-frontline-pbs/page/2/#findComment-2168646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YO303 Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 (edited) i dont trust this guy, and i dont trust julian assunge either, i find it hard to believe these guys dont have documentations on UFOs sightings and alien contact. Edited May 28, 2014 by Deer Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/83532-united-states-of-secrets-frontline-pbs/page/2/#findComment-2168972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted May 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 bump Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/83532-united-states-of-secrets-frontline-pbs/page/2/#findComment-2168999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YO303 Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/83532-united-states-of-secrets-frontline-pbs/page/2/#findComment-2169000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted May 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 mr Snowden's hr long interview for ABC news airs in less than 2 hrs on american television Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/83532-united-states-of-secrets-frontline-pbs/page/2/#findComment-2169047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi Guys Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 nbc not abc Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/83532-united-states-of-secrets-frontline-pbs/page/2/#findComment-2169053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted May 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 (edited) oh thanks for the correction!just checked my cable schedule for tonight not able to find it (feel like a fucking idiot)ok just realized NBC is no longer channel 4 but is channel 3 and just because the lineup has it at 10pm EST does not mean that it airs at 7pm pst. It airs at 10pm pst and following is a 'web exclusive' post show hour long panel discussion on the interview see: http://www.nbcnews.com/feature/edward-snowden-interview/11pm-web-exclusive-brian-williams-post-snowden-analysis-special-n116871 Edited May 29, 2014 by John Ehrlichman Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/83532-united-states-of-secrets-frontline-pbs/page/2/#findComment-2169074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcinsu Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 Any idea if it will stream online? I don't have a tv Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/83532-united-states-of-secrets-frontline-pbs/page/2/#findComment-2169079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi Guys Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 sweet will check it out Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/83532-united-states-of-secrets-frontline-pbs/page/2/#findComment-2169086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
essines Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 Nice Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide essines's signature Hide all signatures On 8/19/2011 at 11:51 PM, Luke Fucking Hazard said: Essines has, and always will remind me of MacReady. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/83532-united-states-of-secrets-frontline-pbs/page/2/#findComment-2169091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 Would love to watch this streaming, as I, like Kcinsu and Oscillik, do not own a television. On 5/27/2014 at 4:41 AM, luke viia said: Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, can't get fooled again. I'm trying to privately put food on my family over here. lawl Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Braintree's signature Hide all signatures colindyer.bandcamp.com williamsbraintree.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/83532-united-states-of-secrets-frontline-pbs/page/2/#findComment-2169092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
delet... Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 I started watching part one of the pbs documentaries but couldn't sit through the insiders telling us their bullshit with a straight face and unchallenged. Maybe start a new thread for the Brian Williams snowden interviews eh. Cause it's like a different thing. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures A member of the non sequitairiate. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/83532-united-states-of-secrets-frontline-pbs/page/2/#findComment-2169255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcinsu Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 So this is on NBCs website, broken up into 6 parts about 6 mins each. Not sure if anything is cut from the broadcast version, as there were some odd edits I thought, but everything I am reading in the media as a recap was covered in those clips. I think it was a pretty strong interview... He was articulate. I'll be curious to see if this sways anyone one way or the other. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/83532-united-states-of-secrets-frontline-pbs/page/2/#findComment-2169295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 I saw the same article with the individual clips. I thought he was well spoken, although some responses seemed a bit rehearsed. I'm not sure if he was privy to the questions before the interview, but if he was not, he did a good job of anticipating them. He also did a great job on the questions that would undermine his position. For instance, the question about what he would advise the president to do if he were to meet with him. The bit about military secrets and not releasing anything that would hurt anyone was good. I'm sure that swayed some people's opinion. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Braintree's signature Hide all signatures colindyer.bandcamp.com williamsbraintree.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/83532-united-states-of-secrets-frontline-pbs/page/2/#findComment-2169341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted May 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 the amount of editing done was really annoying, otherwise I thought it was very good. Unfortunate that it's the 'standard' for reporters like Brian Williams to essentially act like a blank-slate and not just come out with their opinions on the surveillance state. He was giving some kind of typical reporter poker face for the entire interview, I guess so 65+ people at home could infer that he was disapproving of this 'traitor'. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/83532-united-states-of-secrets-frontline-pbs/page/2/#findComment-2169460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Atom Dowry Firth Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 Just getting 'this content is currently unavailable' from the vids on NBC's website but just found it on Youtube. Watching now http://youtu.be/I-xxzOwr7I4 Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/83532-united-states-of-secrets-frontline-pbs/page/2/#findComment-2169488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcinsu Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 When Snowden mentions The Wire, it seemed like an odd edit to me. Apparently this was a 4 hour interview and we get 30 mins. Very curious what else was discussed . Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/83532-united-states-of-secrets-frontline-pbs/page/2/#findComment-2169496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted May 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 obviously Snowden has no fucking clue when he says Season 2 isn't that great so far, just you wait Snowden when you get to the Greek, this isn't just McNulty on a boat son Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/83532-united-states-of-secrets-frontline-pbs/page/2/#findComment-2169526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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