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  On 6/15/2024 at 3:50 PM, tailings said:

For me it still remains: TCH>MHTRTC>G>>>>>TH

From day one, I really appreciated the new ground and fresh vibe of Tomorrows Harvest; that John Carpenter soundtrack feel of many of the tracks was not like any of the prior three albums but still evoked that sense of alternate memory that BOC are so good at.  And yet, TH sounds no where near as cohesive as their earlier work.  It's as if they had combined 10 years of ideas into a box, shook it, then pulled out a random sample.  No idea if we'll ever get the answer, but TH sounds like a compilation of tracks written over time rather than a body of work capturing a moment.  It simply does not flow, does not mesh as their other albums do.

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The tracks are flowing totally into each other, It is just the case that BoC have put them in different order on purpose. 

  On 6/15/2024 at 5:19 PM, cern said:

The tracks are flowing totally into each other, It is just the case that BoC have put them in different order on purpose. 

I didn't intend to say the tracks of TH have no flow.  But compared to the three prior albums, TH doesn't flow as well.

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OK, I just listened to TH start to finish without interruption; first time I've done so in a long time,(no distraction, album not just background music).

It IS a good album.  Very good, even.  8/10.  Cold Earth and Nothing Is Real can stack up with anything they've done.  But I still feel the prior three are better albums overall.

I was reminded on this listen of the same impression I had on my very first listen in 2013; I wish they had pushed the John Carpenter vibe a little more.  It's most present in the opening and closing tracks; I just wish there was more of that vibe.

So, TCH>MHTRTC>G>>TH

  On 6/15/2024 at 3:50 PM, tailings said:

For me it still remains: TCH>MHTRTC>G>>>>>TH

From day one, I really appreciated the new ground and fresh vibe of Tomorrows Harvest; that John Carpenter soundtrack feel of many of the tracks was not like any of the prior three albums but still evoked that sense of alternate memory that BOC are so good at.  And yet, TH sounds no where near as cohesive as their earlier work.  It's as if they had combined 10 years of ideas into a box, shook it, then pulled out a random sample.  No idea if we'll ever get the answer, but TH sounds like a compilation of tracks written over time rather than a body of work capturing a moment.  It simply does not flow, does not mesh as their other albums do.

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@police

cohesion and flow can sometimes be important factors, but the quality of an album cannot be entirely determined by that.

look at drukqs, the sequencing is a fucking mess but it's still a 10/10 album for me. and i adore most ween albums, which are totally schizophrenic in vibe and genre.

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i'm really not one for getting into the deep meaning of boc albums. Maybe when I was still in high school and a novice at smoking marijuana. But collapse came on my spotify shuffle today. Overcast day, def a vibe, so naturally i put on Gemini and start from the beginning for my long commute to work (random sinkhole opened up on the highway a few weeks back so my detour is quite long). And all I gotta say, living in America right now, all that's going on, is holy fuck do the themes and sounds and subliminal messages, and moods, etc fit with the direction this country is heading. Not just this country but the world itself. It's quite amazing that this was written a decade+ back and the closer we edge into the future the more relevant it becomes. Just thinking how two people could write this, I'm just in disbelief. Like how do they get it so perfect. Lots of haters towards this albums. Also in disbelief about that. This is really something to behold. I'm really not obsessive over their music. Prob the first time I paid attention to their music in a few years, but holy shit do their albums have an impact. I doubt they are finished with releasing music. But i really don't care about that at all, I just hope they once in awhile come back to their albums, and put them on and sit there with a smile, and go ".....yeah, we some fucking lads... and we fucking know how to make some fucking music" cause this shit is worthy of feeling great about. I just hope they get that satisfaction of appreciating their work from time to time. Cause it really is fucking phenomenal. 

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  On 3/5/2025 at 3:27 AM, Zooluus said:

i'm really not one for getting into the deep meaning of boc albums. Maybe when I was still in high school and a novice at smoking marijuana. But collapse came on my spotify shuffle today. Overcast day, def a vibe, so naturally i put on Gemini and start from the beginning for my long commute to work (random sinkhole opened up on the highway a few weeks back so my detour is quite long). And all I gotta say, living in America right now, all that's going on, is holy fuck do the themes and sounds and subliminal messages, and moods, etc fit with the direction this country is heading. Not just this country but the world itself. It's quite amazing that this was written a decade+ back and the closer we edge into the future the more relevant it becomes. Just thinking how two people could write this, I'm just in disbelief. Like how do they get it so perfect. Lots of haters towards this albums. Also in disbelief about that. This is really something to behold. I'm really not obsessive over their music. Prob the first time I paid attention to their music in a few years, but holy shit do their albums have an impact. I doubt they are finished with releasing music. But i really don't care about that at all, I just hope they once in awhile come back to their albums, and put them on and sit there with a smile, and go ".....yeah, we some fucking lads... and we fucking know how to make some fucking music" cause this shit is worthy of feeling great about. I just hope they get that satisfaction of appreciating their work from time to time. Cause it really is fucking phenomenal. 

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Shut up nerd

Boards of Canada, the Scottish electronic music duo, have released four major studio albums over their career. To estimate the average time they spent producing their music per minute, we can analyze the intervals between these releases and the durations of the albums.

Studio Albums and Their Durations:

  1. Music Has the Right to Children

    • Release Date: April 20, 1998
    • Duration: Approximately 71 minutes
  2. Geogaddi

    • Release Date: February 13, 2002
    • Duration: Approximately 66 minutes
  3. The Campfire Headphase

    • Release Date: October 17, 2005
    • Duration: Approximately 62 minutes
  4. Tomorrow's Harvest

    • Release Date: June 5, 2013
    • Duration: Approximately 62 minutes

Calculating Production Time per Minute of Music:

  • Between "Music Has the Right to Children" and "Geogaddi":

    • Time Span: April 20, 1998, to February 13, 2002
    • Duration: Approximately 3 years and 10 months (~46 months)
    • Total Minutes of Music Produced: 66 minutes
    • Production Time per Minute of Music: 46 months / 66 minutes ≈ 0.7 months per minute
  • Between "Geogaddi" and "The Campfire Headphase":

    • Time Span: February 13, 2002, to October 17, 2005
    • Duration: Approximately 3 years and 8 months (~44 months)
    • Total Minutes of Music Produced: 62 minutes
    • Production Time per Minute of Music: 44 months / 62 minutes ≈ 0.71 months per minute
  • Between "The Campfire Headphase" and "Tomorrow's Harvest":

    • Time Span: October 17, 2005, to June 5, 2013
    • Duration: Approximately 7 years and 8 months (~92 months)
    • Total Minutes of Music Produced: 62 minutes
    • Production Time per Minute of Music: 92 months / 62 minutes ≈ 1.48 months per minute

Average Production Time per Minute of Music:

  • Total Production Time: 46 + 44 + 92 = 182 months
  • Total Minutes of Music Produced: 66 + 62 + 62 = 190 minutes
  • Average Production Time per Minute: 182 months / 190 minutes ≈ 0.96 months per minute

This analysis suggests that, on average, Boards of Canada spent approximately 0.96 months (about 29 days) producing each minute of music across these three intervals. Notably, the interval between "The Campfire Headphase" and "Tomorrow's Harvest" was longer, indicating a more extended production period for the latter album.

Note: This calculation assumes that the entire interval between album releases was dedicated solely to producing the subsequent album, which may not account for other activities such as touring, personal time, or other projects.

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Considering the noticeable slowdown between releases (from approximately 0.7 months/minute earlier to about 1.48 months/minute more recently), we should differentiate estimates for current production times accordingly:

Revised Estimates (Considering Slowdown):

  • Normal LP (~60 minutes) at recent rate 1.48 months/minute

60 min×1.48 months/minute≈88.8 months≈7.4 years60 min×1.48 months/minute88.8 months7.4 years

  • Double LP (~100 minutes) at recent rate 1.48 months/minute

100 min×1.48 months/minute≈148 months≈12.3 years100 min×1.48 months/minute148 months12.3 years

Summary (Adjusted for Recent Slowdown):

  • Normal LP (~60 min): about 7.4 years
  • Double LP (~100 min): about 12.3 years

These adjusted figures reflect Boards of Canada's increasingly meticulous and deliberate pace in recent years, particularly noticeable between their last two LP releases.
 

Considering Boards of Canada's continued slowing trend:

Historical Context:

  • 1998 → 2002: 4 years (0.7 months/minute)
  • 2002 → 2005: 3.7 years (0.71 months/minute)
  • 2005 → 2013: 7.7 years (1.48 months/minute)

Observations:

The time between their LP releases nearly doubled from about 4 years (earlier phase) to nearly 8 years (recent phase). If this slowdown continues at a similar rate (approximately doubling every cycle), the next LP cycle could extend significantly.

Projection:

  • Previous interval: about 8 years (2005–2013)

  • If interval continues to approximately double:

    • Next interval: ≈ 8 years × 2 = ~16 years from 2013.
    • Next normal LP could be around 2029.
  • For a double LP, assuming even longer duration:

    • A double LP typically requires around 50–100% more production time.
    • Estimating conservatively (adding ~4 years to the already extended interval), the double LP release could be around 2033.

Projected Releases:

  • Normal LP (~60 min): around 2029
  • Double LP (~100 min): around 2033

These predictions assume Boards of Canada will maintain or further slow their meticulous creative pace. However, actual release schedules could vary depending on creative decisions, external factors, or artistic direction changes.

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  On 3/13/2025 at 1:25 PM, NewSchoolScience said:

Did you get that from Twoism?

no asked the chatbot about this very obvious calculation 

  On 3/13/2025 at 3:30 PM, Alcofribas said:

if you post this kind of thing on keyosc, you have to pay a fine to each member who reads it. 

To be honest I think its pretty much spot on with a new release in 2029 based on time it takes them to produce one minute of music considering that it also takes them longer and longer 

  On 3/13/2025 at 3:39 PM, o00o said:

To be honest I think its pretty much spot on with a new release in 2029 based on time it takes them to produce one minute of music considering that it also takes them longer and longer 

brother, this is not how knowledge works

  On 3/13/2025 at 10:10 PM, o00o said:

Now you laugh but in 2029 you will laugh no more ‘shouting at cloud’ 

lol

I see it takes you 6 hours to compose a post in this thread

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