Do you like this kind of music?

  On 8/3/2014 at 12:19 PM, LUDD said:

mumbly is pretty rubbish though isn't it?

Are we thinking about the same song?

  On 8/3/2014 at 12:19 PM, LUDD said:

mumbly is pretty rubbish though isn't it?

I dont like the beats of it.

"Do you like this?"

"Not really"

"Well this is my car so tough shit"

The End

People who listen mostly to pop will find Aphex Twin jarring at first, also Caustic Window LP is probably the worst Aphex release to listen to first

ya blew it

I just tell them "your musical taste is bullshit." Then they get out of the car and walk home. This is fortunate for them because I do not have a drivers license and end up crashing into the back of a bus on the next block with a smug grin on my face.

If i had to set out to show someone why I like aphex twin I would start with songs that dont have drums like cliffs, beskhu3pnm, rhubarb, or avril 14th to establish that he knows what he is doing and can make enjoyable sounds/melodies. Then to introduce what he does with drums I would go with girl/boy song, vordhosbn, or meltphace - maybe even slowed versions so that it doesn't sound like a random mess. His body of work is pretty diverse though, that would just be the path through my favorite parts of it.

I don't talk to people about idemz unless it's clear they already listen to it.

If Aphex Twin is too weird for most people, I think it's safe to say there's no hope for my taste in music. I've always found it to be very accessible material.

  On 8/3/2014 at 12:45 PM, Djeroek said:

There is no objective truth in something being 'good music', musical taste tends to be culturally bred. Don't bother convincing or explaining to convert someone to your likes, rather understand why you like it.

This is true for normals. Not for people that listen to music because they like music. As i've explained before on here, normals listen to music for very different reasons that have nothing to do with liking music, cultural reasons like the era that they were born in, what their social group is into, they only lock into this one experience despite the fact that the basic tenets of what they are hearing can be found in many diverse styles across the planet so they would be sure to find something else that they like in another genre. It's like these people are born without tastebuds essentially, but they trust what they put in their mouth based on what they have been trained associate with sustenance. It gives an emotional resonance because of the memories of experiences where the music was present, or due to the lyrical content, not because of the underlying music.

Whereas for the bulk of us here perhaps, no matter the 'culture' it was spawned from, it's all the same combinations notes ... melodies, timbres. People here would like a yak using it's arse to mimic it's rider's throat singing, if we liked the melody and the timbre. We have varying degrees of depth to our taste i've noticed and there are different areas of main interest that then resonates through everything that we might like. But it won't shut down that openness to all music.

When people ask me what kind of music that i like i say every genre, but just the best examples from each. People tend to find that strange and elitist. But whatever man. Also, coming off a six day shift and having been awake for nearly 24 hrs, i'm certain that i've explained this much better in the past so i'm sure it could be picked apart, but surely you get what i mean, the heart of it anyway. And i seriously don't bear the normals any ill will, they just weren't born with brains that could process music, or at least had a limited capacity to begin with so never developed that muscle, i don't know, that's for science to decide, but the fact of the matter is that my point stands, right now in the society that we live in most people don't like music, they really don't.

  On 8/3/2014 at 9:19 PM, salvaKPO said:

 

  On 8/3/2014 at 12:12 PM, Friendly Foil said:

Isn't this pretty much the reaction of everyone listening to this kind of stuff for the first time?

 

No, I liked this from the beginning and got into this by myself. I remember the first time I got to hear Drukqs or RDJ Album or the Analords and I can assure you that I did not reject that at all, haha. With the more bizarre and old tracks (The stuff prior HAB), I got into them later on (They were slower that his DnB and not as bright and didnt have nice melodies as the Analords). But I think that I have a natural tendency to this kind of stuff. I even liked when CDs glitched out when I was little.

 

I used to like moving the dial between the static on the shortwave radio. Also using my voice to drift in and out of harmony with the 70 horsepower evinrude outboard motor that was powering our trips home to the cape when i was little. Roped my second youngest brother when i could into singing with me so i could get more tonal variation. All sorts of sounds just turned me on back then, some people just resonate to sound, develop a kinship to it. As people have stated, why bother explaining it. And if you do explain it, how can you be sure that the person that you've laboured for half an hour to like some artist, isn't just getting into it because you've set up the preconditions through your efforts to make it socially acceptable and so therefore listenable on that level. If they can't like something on their own that should be such a basic thing to their nature, they never will truly like it. heh.

do you like anything-

I got to meet someone who is a famous harpsichordist apparently and she liked one of my tracks off Sleepy (dunkin donuts corporate etc. etc.), except for the 'farting' sounds. I also said I forgot if it was in 5/4 or what and she's like 'that doesn't matter as long as there's a steady pulse to the song that you can follow' and I'm like fuck yeah in my head. I emailed her one of the alarm will sound covers of aphex (meltphace 6 if curious). She seems pretty out there so she might like it at /least/ in that format (played with real instruments). Should have mentioned the supposed lucid dreaming thing with SAWII too because she's really into the idea that you have to realize a track in your head first if it's going to be something special

any tracks in particular you guys think a classical musician could get behind? (maybe a track from ICBYD)

a lot of people think I'm weird enough without telling them about the music I listen too, I mean that would really be the nail in the coffin lol

  On 8/5/2014 at 8:35 PM, Ragnar said:

do you like anything-

well i liked a couple of your tracks if you remember ;-p heeh.

A few days ago I sent a link to Ceephax's Probey's Poker video to a colleague at work. So far he hasn't even mentioned it. Lol.

I got some of my friends converted to Squarepusher (the more jazzy stuff) and Boards of Canada years ago but Aphex was probably a bit too harsh. Autechre was straight out of the question.

  On 8/5/2014 at 9:00 PM, beerwolf said:

a lot of people think I'm weird enough without telling them about the music I listen too, I mean that would really be the nail in the coffin lol

  On 8/4/2014 at 5:10 AM, delet... said:

When people ask me what kind of music that i like i say every genre, but just the best examples from each.

"What kind of music do you like?"

"I like music."

Haha, IDM is our fight club.

I think age might have something to do with it. I can appreciate SAW1, but as it's older than I am it's kinda from a era I missed and didn't grow up listening to. Same goes with Autechre's Incunabula. That might be one of the reasons I enjoy Druqks the most

  On 8/3/2014 at 7:56 PM, PhylumZunami said:

if you think its hard getting people into aphex twin, you oughta try getting them into venetian snares - horse and goat!

haha no, autechre. nobody likes autechre when they first listen.

just show em your best quality aphex on the best quality sound system. easy as that

forcing your taste on others is a futile endeavor.. take comfort in your own enjoyment of something without seeking external validation for it.

  On 8/4/2014 at 4:16 AM, KyonPalm said:

If Aphex Twin is too weird for most people, I think it's safe to say there's no hope for my taste in music. I've always found it to be very accessible material.

i know kaze o atsumete can be extreme sometimes

I cater the music according to the people in my car. If I don't think I have anything that they would care for or I know nothing about their tastes, I put on CBC Radio 1.

  On 8/3/2014 at 11:16 PM, ThatSpanishGuy said:

"Do you like this?"

 

"Not really"

 

"Well this is my car so tough shit"

 

The End

this is why nobody ever comes in my car anymore

Yeah honestly I don't even bother asking shit like that I have to hear others music all day at work, anyone who is crazy enough to get into my car is going to have to hear my musical choices. It's like that joke about Kobe Bryant if he wants to bone you it's going to happen whether you like it or not.

Once I did care, and I remember asking the other person "have you heard of Aphex Twin"? They said no so I responded well I'm turning it up because I want you to get a good dose of it. I don't know if they liked it or not but they respected my decision.