Ebola hits US

if a bunch of people get it from treating duncan, i can't imagine how hard it will be to get folks to treat newly infected people. the protection and training that those nurses got is so inadequate it borders on conspiratorial. i say "borders on" because i think most conspiracies require a ton of competence but the more likely explanation is just regular old incompetence.

Tom Frieden or...

Ebola situation is not racist, huh...? Well, how about this for aluminium hatism?!:

http://www.theeventchronicle.com/ebola/ghana-ebola-real-people-gotten-sick-got-shots-red-cross/

seems like right here the CDC are admitting they fucked up. but does this guy realize that he is accepting responsibility for potentially who knows how many deaths that may result because of them failing to put people in dallas on day one, and lock everything down? now they're talking about how they are ready to send teams to any hospital across the country who reports a case. of course they should always be ready to do that. but they wouldn't even have to be talking about that as a strong possibility if they just did their fucking job when it was ONE patient. they neglected their duty to prevent that one patient from turning into who knows how many. even just that first nurse catching it is their fault and imo she or her family should sue the government for allowing her to do a job that put her completely out of her depth and wasn't her job to do in the first place, but was the CDC's (and then blaming her). like how the fuck are these exact same clowns going to be the ones telling people at the behest of their boss that this thing can't possibly become a major outbreak because of how great the US's response to this shit is, and then decide NOT to respond? this is seriously criminal levels of ineptitude.

  On 10/15/2014 at 9:27 PM, MisterE said:

seems like right here the CDC are admitting they fucked up. but does this guy realize that he is accepting responsibility for potentially who knows how many deaths that may result because of them failing to put people in dallas on day one, and lock everything down? now they're talking about how they are ready to send teams to any hospital across the country who reports a case. of course they should always be ready to do that. but they wouldn't even have to be talking about that as a strong possibility if they just did their fucking job when it was ONE patient. they neglected their duty to prevent that one patient from turning into who knows how many. even just that first nurse catching it is their fault and imo she or her family should sue the government for allowing her to do a job that put her completely out of her depth and wasn't her job to do in the first place, but was the CDC's (and then blaming her). like how the fuck are these exact same clowns going to be the ones telling people at the behest of their boss that this thing can't possibly become a major outbreak because of how great the US's response to this shit is, and then decide NOT to respond? this is seriously criminal levels of ineptitude.

It's kind of our MO MisterE. I say "our" in a general government sense mind you. They don't do anything til it's too late. But, I bet pharmaceutical companies are working round the clock to get a new drug on the market just in time to fill their pockets. Oh wait, refer to the previous sentence. They'll get their $ eventually though...

can anyone confirm this?

http://www.inquisitr.com/1541821/ebola-is-airborne-university-of-minnesota-cidrap-researchers-claim/

ive also been reading accounts - not sure if confirmed or uncomfirmed that the CDC and other specialists has said it's a possibility that ebola is now airborne.. .?

  On 10/15/2014 at 11:52 PM, Lane Visitor said:

can anyone confirm this?

 

http://www.inquisitr.com/1541821/ebola-is-airborne-university-of-minnesota-cidrap-researchers-claim/

 

ive also been reading accounts - not sure if confirmed or uncomfirmed that the CDC and other specialists has said it's a possibility that ebola is now airborne.. .?

here's the original statement by university of minnesota: http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2014/09/commentary-health-workers-need-optimal-respiratory-protection-ebola

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No one knows for certain how Ebola virus is transmitted from one person to the next. The virus has been found in the saliva, stool, breast milk, semen, and blood of infected persons.^8,9 Studies of transmission in Ebola virus outbreaks have identified activities like caring for an infected person, sharing a bed, funeral activities, and contact with blood or other body fluids to be key risk factors for transmission.^10-12

On the basis of epidemiologic evidence, it has been presumed that Ebola viruses are transmitted by contaminated hands in contact with the mouth or eyes or broken skin or by splashes or sprays of body fluids into these areas. Ebola viruses appear to be capable of initiating infection in a variety of human cell types,^13,14 but the primary portal or portals of entry into susceptible hosts have not been identified.

basically, they don't know for sure, but think it can be transmitted through aerosol particles like the vapor that comes out of your mouth when you breathe or sneeze, so better wear more than a face mask.

Second Ebola nurse traveled on plane with low-grade fever

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/health/2014/10/15/second-dallas-hospital-worker-diagnosed-ebola/17290677/

ahh, gotchya, thanks for the source!

yeah thats weird. it looks like that's sourced from something that was said back in september by that CIDRAP group. no idea how big of an authority on these things they are but you would think that any research group saying something like that would be considered by the CDC. making it maybe even more weird that i saw a comment on an article connected with that one, which mentioned that on the fox news 'kelley file' show that the CDC head himself (Tom Frieden) said that people treating an ebola patient don't need head gear. i had to go look that up to see it for myself. not only did he say that they don't need it, but he even strongly implied that having on more protective covering beyond one pair of gloves would be worse than just having on the one pair of gloves.

meawhile over 400 healthcare workers have contracted the disease in this outbreak.

the nurses that were treating the first patient were apparently told to go to the CDC website to learn the protocol, and the website apparently says to only wear gloves, again, according to that interview. but i just looked at the cdc site and saw something saying anyone collecting specimens from patients suspected of having it should wear masks. so its like the cdc themselves are putting out contradictory info even though the guy is saying 'Our information is clear and correct'.

edit-i didn't see those last two posts when i posted this, was replying to lanes first one.

  On 10/14/2014 at 12:22 PM, azatoth said:

 

  On 10/14/2014 at 5:11 AM, peace 7 said:

 

http://mic.com/articles/100618/one-powerful-illustration-shows-exactly-what-s-wrong-with-media-coverage-of-ebola

Pretty much what I've been thinking too.

 

If Ebola hadn't popped up on a continent full of brown people, there would probably already be a vaccine against it.

how many continents are not full of "brown people"?

antarctica. That one's pretty white all over.

those cold hearted bastards

  On 10/16/2014 at 2:41 AM, delet... said:

*photoshops pic so that blood is coming out of all of penguin's orifaces*

especially his asshole-mouth!

that bitch has some happy looking feet

  On 10/15/2014 at 8:08 PM, colunga said:

going to dallas on friday.

Don't bring it back, my G.

Letter from Thomas Eric Duncan's nephew

http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/latest-columns/20141014-exclusive-ebola-didnt-have-to-kill-thomas-eric-duncan-nephew-says.ece

"Thomas Eric Duncan was a victim of a broken system. The biggest unanswered question about my uncle’s death is why the hospital would send home a patient with a 103-degree fever and stomach pains who had recently been in Liberia — and he told them he had just returned from Liberia explicitly due to the Ebola threat.

Some speculate that this was a failure of the internal communications systems. Others have speculated that antibiotics and Tylenol are the standard protocol for a patient without insurance."

Broken system indeed. I imagine anyone who's been in an ER lately has been treated like a component on a conveyor belt, of course, after waiting at least a couple hours. Racism is probably a contributing factor here, but there's a ton of other reasons for poor care: classicism, overworked nurses, abstruse billing, artificial shortage of doctors...

don't worry guys, the cure has been found

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGtq-YDy3QM

wtf

Public ERs in Texas are a joke, never use them unless your primary care physician works at that hospital. The private ER business is booming for a reason, better trained personnel & superior equipment & facilities. Learned that the hard way.

really nice to be in a foreign country while all this stupid ebola hysteria is happening inside the US, it's barely in the news. US media is totally disgusting

the only news I saw here was that ISIS now has chemical weapons, which is hilarious to me because the US tried to blame Assad for chemical weapons attacks last year, but zero mention of the idea that the rebels back then ( who now in part morphed into ISIS) could have been responsible for that.

it would be funny if it weren't so manipulative and sad

I don't want to panic anyone but I heard someone in WATMM has ebola...

Re robbie

Yeah, it's horrible. And most ppl around are completely oblivious. But they could tell you football scores going back decades.

The reaction in the US seems to be ludicrously alarmist (as per usual), but up here I've lost count of how many times people have basically said to me: "why does ebola matter, more people die from the flu and AIDS every year".

That kind of attitude swings way too far in the other direction IMO. New epidemics need to be jumped on and contained as fast as possible - lest they become the next flu or AIDS. And comparisons with flu are bloody stupid - people still die from flu, but it is basically under our control: we have a good idea of who will fall victim to it, at what time of year, etc. And ebola doesn't limit itself to those who are already weak and frail.

(I'm sure most of you here already know all that lol)

The reaction in the US media has been bonkers, but governments' response has been a fucking joke