Are you an Album track skipper/editor/deleter?

  On 10/1/2014 at 2:45 AM, hello spiral said:

 

  On 10/1/2014 at 2:33 AM, logakght said:

Yes. The only album I haven't touched since its perfect is Ravedeath 1972 by Mr. Hecker.

 

Touché.

Now you've made me reverse my whole argument.

I only tried to listen to Ravedeath once and turned it off half way through.

Fucking awful album.

 

Good thread but this is wrong.

Also, lololol at adjusting the EQ on albums.

Is it so hard to believe that someone somewhere doesn't like a specific track from your favorite artist?

This is what the thread is about right? Jeez

That's not really what this thread is about, no.

  On 10/1/2014 at 2:45 AM, hello spiral said:

 

  On 10/1/2014 at 2:33 AM, logakght said:

Yes. The only album I haven't touched since its perfect is Ravedeath 1972 by Mr. Hecker.

 

I only tried to listen to Ravedeath once and turned it off half way through.

Fucking awful album.

 

So you didnt get to 'In The Air I-II-III'? Missing outttt.

  On 10/1/2014 at 3:40 AM, sergeantk said:

WTF??? Why would anyone do that? -_-

You are tearing me aparrt Lisa!

The only track I've deleted from an album in recent memory is that Omar-S track on 'it can be done but only i can do it' that samples a porno for like 4+ minutes. For obvious reasons..

I cant remember deleting songs off albums to be honest. Definitely a skipper, (if anything).

Only delete the real stinkers that fuck up a flow of an album. Like back in the days there was this chill hip hop album from the Nonce, 'world ultimate' with smooth tribe called quest like jazzy tracks on it. Good material to fall asleep too, than suddenly there is a loud track that wakes you up. Such track has to go.

it's weird though. it's tampering with a piece of art. it's like buying a book and tearing out the bits that made you sad because you'd rather only read happy books.

I mean, obviously with CD/vinyl you can't delete tracks, but a large portion of my music collection is digital. and even with the shittiest songs I would never delete a track from an album.

I have this weird fixation to albums. I hate listening to one off tracks. Maybe if its a song that's on my mind sure but when I properly sit down and listen to music I much prefer albums and EPs and just listening to the whole thing. So the idea of deleting a track?? never! never ever ever ever ever.

I would sooner delete the whole album/get rid of the album then I would delete a track.

( ACTUALLY!!

I have deleted tracks from my collection. when albums put *bonus tracks* or remixes at the end. I've deleted those before. )

does that count? who cares about shitty remixes..

None of the above, I make playlists of my favourite stuff now and again but prefer to listen to albums in full, how they were intended.

  On 10/1/2014 at 9:46 AM, bitroast said:

it's weird though. it's tampering with a piece of art. it's like buying a book and tearing out the bits that made you sad because you'd rather only read happy books.

  On 10/1/2014 at 9:46 AM, bitroast said:

I would sooner delete the whole album/get rid of the album then I would delete a track.

This and this!

ACTUALLY, you're post also reminded me that I've done some similar rearranging of tracks - retagging certain things I've ripped from CD in the case of certain compilations, bonus CDs, US versions & whatnot, like:

- breaking apart the 2nd CD of Tri Rep ++ into garbage and anvil vapre (no reason these altogether different beasts need to be tethered to each other)

- separating Herbie Hancock's Mwandishi 2CD compilation into the 3 original releases that span it (again, all really different)

- Taking off the Girl/Boy EP from the end of the stateside RDJ Album... and subsequently deleting it! The album is great, but as a non-fanboy that ep pretty much encapsulates the worst of his cheeky wankery

no, that's fucked up. i think most of the artists in our sphere release their music as complete albums and they should be approached as such if the idea is to get artist's intentions and ideas. skipping/deleting tracks would be akin to removing objects or particular colors from a painting.

equing and bpm correcting?? fucking puke in my mouth.

I usually shuffle through my whole library and stop when I find something I wanna hear.

So yeah, I skip a lot.

i also like to play my music library on shuffle and stop when i find something i like. then i'll delete it and keep shuffling and skipping.

who has time these days for actually listening to music these days?

<--- is a random shuffler

It depends what mood I'm in, sometimes I just listen to music casually, make playlists, only listen to the tracks I want to and so on.

However, there are times when I want to listen to an album all the way through. I want to experience the whole thing, warts and all as the creator intended. The album quite often tells a kind of abstract story and not listening to the whole thing feels like I'm missing out on the whole experience, similar to skipping chapters in a book.

Also, as Hello Spiral said, some tracks that don't seem great on first listens reveal themselves to you after a while. You're potentially denying yourself of a great track just because it doesn't click with you straight away. Why would you always skip/delete/edit a track when you've paid money for it anyway? I'm a proper cheapskate and I'll try to get my money's worth on anything I buy.

I do it, some albums have filler - I think that might be a product of the hard-copy non-mp3 past - where you could make a few good songs and then fill an album with lazy rubbish to make money

My favourite stuff is almost always the stuff I don't edit, like Snares albums, Melvins albums, drukqs, Taxidermy by Queen Adreena, Aenima by Tool, some Hair Stylistics stuff...

Occasionally though someone does something so special that is mixed with really unspecial stuff - especially more improvised or experimental stuff can be like that (the biggest nightmare for me is when it is in one song - Sonic Youth used to confuse me with that)

One of the things I love about the Melvins is that Buzz actually believes in putting a bit of effort into what he does (even though it's quite experimental) - I think that's why they've been so consistent while other heavy bands got lazy

MY OPINIONS EVERYONE CHECK OUT MY OPINIONS ABOUT MUSIC I'M SO AWESOME

I don't delete but I do cut tracks up sometimes, e.g. Black Dog's Bytes - my CD version has the "bolt" tracks lumped together with adjacent "proper" tracks. I cut them apart and have them as separate tracks

  On 10/1/2014 at 7:13 AM, Friendly Foil said:

 

  On 10/1/2014 at 2:45 AM, hello spiral said:

 

  On 10/1/2014 at 2:33 AM, logakght said:

Yes. The only album I haven't touched since its perfect is Ravedeath 1972 by Mr. Hecker.

 

Touché.

Now you've made me reverse my whole argument.

I only tried to listen to Ravedeath once and turned it off half way through.

Fucking awful album.

 

Good thread but this is wrong.

 

Also, lololol at adjusting the EQ on albums.

 

Does the loudness button count? Most music sounds like shit on my system without it

One of the main reasons not to do this is if you share your music over any p2p network like soulseek. Any time I download an album I'm curious about and get an incompete or tampered version it really bugs me.

Do you guys bring ketchup to 4 star restaurants too?

The artist had certain intentions. I understand skipping tracks if you like them less than other's on the album, but eq'uing them and editing them seems a little strange.

Definitely an album person. The only time I deleted a track was when I downloaded the Japanese The Downward Spiral because my laptop has no CD drive and deleted the fucking J bonus track because it's awful and fucked up the flow of the album completely. Why is a bonus track mid album with no logical transition? Worst idea ever.

I skip tracks, but only if I'm on time constraint, like if I'm listening to an album on the way home and it's not enough time for the whole album. At which point I know the tracks I like most and prioritize accordingly. But if I put an album on generally then it's on beginning to end.

EQing an artists tracks though LOLOLOLOL

  On 10/1/2014 at 5:28 PM, ThatSpanishGuy said:

 

  On 10/1/2014 at 7:13 AM, Friendly Foil said:

 

  On 10/1/2014 at 2:45 AM, hello spiral said:

 

  On 10/1/2014 at 2:33 AM, logakght said:

Yes. The only album I haven't touched since its perfect is Ravedeath 1972 by Mr. Hecker.

 

Touché.

Now you've made me reverse my whole argument.

I only tried to listen to Ravedeath once and turned it off half way through.

Fucking awful album.

 

Good thread but this is wrong.

 

Also, lololol at adjusting the EQ on albums.

 

 

Does the loudness button count? Most music sounds like shit on my system without it

 

I was really interested in reading about what the loudness button actually does and is intended for. I find music at high volume sounds far better and more dynamic with the loudness button off.

For the most part I leave albums alone. I only delete/rearrange/skip tracks if I think one or two are out of place. If lots of songs are terrible then it's a terrible album and I don't listen to it again. Editing tracks though...that's a step too far for me.

Also, Mr. Spiral, bear in mind that not all albums are compiled with love and care with the artists/labels involved. Many are just shunted together, usually with single/melodic track at the beginning and everything else just chucked on behind it.

Definitely agree with deleting bonus tracks off of the end of things, unless they're pretty good. Roadrunner Records were notorious for this: the digipak versions of their albums always had a bunch of bonus unreleased + live tracks, which were sometimes great but often just made albums needlessly longer.

  On 10/1/2014 at 7:16 PM, StephenG said:

The artist had certain intentions

sometimes

  On 10/1/2014 at 7:05 PM, Boxus said:

One of the main reasons not to do this is if you share your music over any p2p network like soulseek. Any time I download an album I'm curious about and get an incompete or tampered version it really bugs me.

I mark the title with "(edit)"

  On 10/1/2014 at 5:22 PM, Tricone RC said:

I don't delete but I do cut tracks up sometimes, e.g. Black Dog's Bytes - my CD version has the "bolt" tracks lumped together with adjacent "proper" tracks. I cut them apart and have them as separate tracks

I used to edit out the silence in bonus tracks. You know, that 90's thing where CDs had 30 mins of silence followed by either someone farting or a cool track. I don't do it as much as I no longer use minidisc but man, those were annoying.

Thank fuck no-one does THAT any more.

  On 10/1/2014 at 7:21 PM, hoggy said:

 

  On 10/1/2014 at 7:16 PM, StephenG said:

The artist had certain intentions

 

sometimes

 

no. 100% of the time. Are you suggesting that artists unintentionally release tracks or parts of tracks? They end up on the album purely by accident?

lol