On 8/16/2021 at 1:23 PM, Amen Warrior said:

Ok...same account on twitter has a continuing clip of the poor souls falling off post take off if you're desperate to see it. I wish I hadn't.

 

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  On 8/16/2021 at 11:15 AM, iococoi said:

erased from existence..

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  On 8/16/2021 at 10:00 AM, Squee said:

Well, luckily the US is going to embrace Afghan refugees, right?

We should put them here. Trump will pay.

  On 8/16/2021 at 7:27 AM, cern said:

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Fixed

Blir u king hahahaha!  

  On 8/16/2021 at 2:25 PM, Satans Little Helper said:

We should put them here. Trump will pay.

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or better yet - how 'bout we put him and all his supporters over there, and let them duke it out with the taliban battle royale style. they can air the whole thing on trump tv...ratings'll be yuge!

  On 8/16/2021 at 11:31 AM, iococoi said:

https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/products/c130/hc-130j-combat-king-ii.html

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This C-130J variation specializes in tactical profiles and avoiding detection 

...except from some nerds on an IDM forum.

GOP Removes Page Praising Donald Trump's 'Historic' Peace Deal With Taliban

https://www.newsweek.com/gop-removes-webpage-praising-trumps-historic-peace-deal-taliban-1619605?amp=1&ocid=st&__twitter_impression=true

  On 8/16/2021 at 4:19 PM, randomsummer said:

avoiding beat detection

  On 8/15/2021 at 8:27 PM, Upset man said:

Isn’t it amusing/terrifying/thought provoking that you can draw a total parallel  between the timelines of the United States opioid crisis rise and fall and our occupation of Afghanistan?

With delicious Chinese fentanyl

Most of your Fentanyl comes from Mexico now.

  On 8/16/2021 at 1:23 PM, Amen Warrior said:

Ok...same account on twitter has a continuing clip of the poor souls falling off post take off if you're desperate to see it. I wish I hadn't.

 

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Stalingrad 1942

History repeats itself

  On 8/16/2021 at 11:23 AM, Shimon_Shimon said:

Yeah, reports of around 2-3 trillion dollars of precious metals/REEs. 

The Taliban will make a move for legitimacy as they did before the war in 2001. I wonder what that will do to their current cash crop? Afghanistan is reported to be responsible for 85% of the world's heroin market (circa 2010 numbers). America/NATO didn't make a dent in production in the time they were there, despite spending billions. Opium has kept the Taliban coffers overflowing, even with their attempted "banning" of farming just before the war started in 2001. 

The spice must flow. 

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Most recent UNODC report:

https://www.unodc.org/documents/crop-monitoring/Afghanistan/20210503_Executive_summary_Opium_Survey_2020_SMALL.pdf

  On 8/16/2021 at 6:19 PM, ignatius said:

 

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where is option #3 - Obama's fault

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On July 19, 2021 I discovered a terrorist watchlist containing 1.9 million records online without a password or any other authentication required to access it.

The watchlist came from the Terrorist Screening Center, a multi-agency group administered by the FBI. The TSC maintains the country's no-fly list, which is a subset of the larger watchlist. A typical record in the list contains a full name, citizenship, gender, date of birth, passport number, no-fly indicator, and more.

America's secret terrorist watchlist exposed on the web without a password: report (LinkedIn)

  On 8/16/2021 at 6:55 PM, zero said:

where is option #3 - Obama's fault

he def owns part of it too. 

  On 8/16/2021 at 7:43 PM, ignatius said:

he def owns part of it too. 

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On paper that's better than what the US went through with Trump.

that’s a plot twist

The real sadness is of course: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/15/an-afghan-woman-in-kabul-now-i-have-to-burn-everything-i-achieved

https://apnews.com/article/afghanistan-taliban-women-kabul-f6fa72e3289f7d6c33ddf84d5a7c4bc2

Afghanistan represents a giant failure in American and NATO foreign policy, lack of cultural understanding, lack of proper support to build institutions that Afghani people could trust, and lack of transparency throughout the 42 years (the Soviet-Afghan war started in 1979) of American involvement in Afghanistan (before then, but that was really the first significant investment for the Americans - prior assistance projects were infrastructure or technical assistance).

I know this is the America thread, but since it's been brought up here, with respect to China's potential entry (or becoming more prominent, as it were), it should be noted of course that China has been involved in Afghan affairs for a long time, and their relations with Afghanistan have been complex.

https://www.files.ethz.ch/isn/184324/PISM Strategic File no 22 (58).pdf

sharma2010 (Sino-Afghan).pdfFetching info...

  On 8/16/2021 at 9:06 PM, chenGOD said:

The real sadness is of course: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/15/an-afghan-woman-in-kabul-now-i-have-to-burn-everything-i-achieved

https://apnews.com/article/afghanistan-taliban-women-kabul-f6fa72e3289f7d6c33ddf84d5a7c4bc2

Afghanistan represents a giant failure in American and NATO foreign policy, lack of cultural understanding, lack of proper support to build institutions that Afghani people could trust, and lack of transparency throughout the 42 years (the Soviet-Afghan war started in 1979) of American involvement in Afghanistan (before then, but that was really the first significant investment for the Americans - prior assistance projects were infrastructure or technical assistance).

I know this is the America thread, but since it's been brought up here, with respect to China's potential entry (or becoming more prominent, as it were), it should be noted of course that China has been involved in Afghan affairs for a long time, and their relations with Afghanistan have been complex.

https://www.files.ethz.ch/isn/184324/PISM Strategic File no 22 (58).pdf

 

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it's almost like they never saw Bitter Lake

  On 8/16/2021 at 6:55 PM, zero said:

where is option #3 - Obama's fault

This guy is usually pretty insightful (often in his criticism of the Trumpification of the conservative party and their continual failures lately) and related to your point, though he goes a bit further: 

  On 8/16/2021 at 5:49 PM, chenGOD said:

Most of your Fentanyl comes from Mexico now.

My bad. 

  On 8/16/2021 at 10:35 PM, Upset man said:

My bad. 

Wasn't criticizing, just updating. Fent is cheap to manufacture, and China recently (last year I think?) placed way stricter controls over the export of both the finished product and precursors, so for Mexican cartels it just made sense to start producing.

  On 8/16/2021 at 11:02 PM, chenGOD said:

Wasn't criticizing, just updating. Fent is cheap to manufacture, and China recently (last year I think?) placed way stricter controls over the export of both the finished product and precursors, so for Mexican cartels it just made sense to start producing.

It’s cool! I didn’t take it that way. I appreciate reading this stuff so much. I learn more on here than I do just about anywhere else.