Celebrity Deaths

zero · June 10, 2018

Fair enough, you got one opinion of him and I got mine. Not sure why you included the fuck you...seems kinda uncalled for.

In his early days I thought he did come across as the typical holier than thou chef but as everyone has pointed out, mellowed out in his later years and seemed pretty genuine. Maybe he did lose the attitude, but I mean something was causing internal dissatisfaction and we can only guess at what that was.

**joshuatxuk** · June 10, 2018

On 6/9/2018 at 9:30 PM, zero said:

On 6/8/2018 at 8:09 PM, joshuatx said:

On 6/8/2018 at 2:36 PM, Bulk VanderHooj said:

fuckfuckfuck

that makes me so angry. Don't think I've been bothered by a celebrity death since David Bowie?

same here, Robin Williams was pretty devastating too
I think the one that hit me the hardest in the past 5 or so years was Chris Cornell. Brought me back to my teenage years, how I idolized lead singers of grunge bands.

I can understand that being very upsetting.

On 6/9/2018 at 9:59 AM, xxx said:
It bummed me out all day and into the night--especially the vegan celebrations of his death around Twitter.

Some humans ain't human /

Some people ain't kind /

They lie through their teeth /

With their head up their behind

He never mocked Indian vegetarians, Rasta vegans or beyond that halal and kosher practitioners - Bourdain always lampooned and blasted vegans of luxury, privilege, and bullshit self-righteousness, the kind people so up their own ass they missed the moral point entirely of their lifestyle choices. They are literally proving him right.

Edited June 10, 2018 by joshuatx

**Hugh Mughnus** · June 10, 2018

On 6/10/2018 at 12:59 PM, zero said:

Not sure why you included the fuck you...seems kinda uncalled for.

Yeah it was uncalled for, sorry about that. I apologise. As soon as I woke up this morning (just now) I came here to say that.

I need a bit of a break from watmm to sort myself out - I'm going to ban myself for a couple weeks.

Edited June 10, 2018 by Bulk VanderHooj

**Ivan Ooze** · June 10, 2018

On 6/10/2018 at 3:07 PM, Bulk VanderHooj said:

On 6/10/2018 at 12:59 PM, zero said:

Not sure why you included the fuck you...seems kinda uncalled for.

Yeah it was uncalled for, sorry about that. I apologise.

As soon as I woke up this morning (just now) I came here to say that.

I need a bit of a break from watmm to sort myself out - I'm going to ban myself for a couple weeks.

He need some ye

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marf · June 11, 2018

I worked with a chef who knew Bourdain. He definitely traded up in the female department. He was married many years before he got famous

markedone · June 11, 2018

Bourdain has really struck close.. I mainly know his travel and food show side, but im already realizing how his punchy yet eloquent manner of writing doesnt really have an equivalent.

quoted below, the intro to one episode struck home for me, its basic stuff but refreshingly to the point:

Under the Volcano

By: Anthony Bourdain, CNN

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Americans love Mexican food. We consume nachos, tacos, burritos, tortas, enchiladas, tamales, and anything resembling Mexican in enormous quantities.

We love Mexican beverages, happily knocking back huge amounts of tequila, mezcal and Mexican beer every year.

We love Mexican people -- as we sure employ a lot of them. Despite our ridiculously hypocritical attitudes towards immigration, we demand that Mexicans cook a large percentage of the food we eat, grow the ingredients we need to make that food, clean our houses, mow our lawns, wash our dishes, and look after our children. As any chef will tell you, our entire service economy -- the restaurant business as we know it -- in most American cities, would collapse overnight without Mexican workers. Some, of course, like to claim that Mexicans are "stealing American jobs." But in two decades as a chef and employer, I never had ONE American kid walk in my door and apply for a dishwashing job, a porter's position -- or even a job as prep cook. Mexicans do much of the work in this country that Americans, provably, simply won't do. We love Mexican drugs. Maybe not you personally, but "we," as a nation, certainly consume titanic amounts of them -- and go to extraordinary lengths and expense to acquire them.

We love Mexican music, Mexican beaches, Mexican architecture, interior design, Mexican films.

So, why don't we love Mexico?

We throw up our hands and shrug at what happens and what is happening just across the border. Maybe we are embarrassed.

Mexico, after all, has always been there for us, to service our darkest needs and desires. Whether it's dress up like fools and get pass-out drunk and sun burned on Spring break in Cancun, throw pesos at strippers in Tijuana, or get toasted on Mexican drugs, we are seldom on our best behavior in Mexico. They have seen many of us at our worst. They know our darkest desires.

In the service of our appetites, we spend billions and billions of dollars each year on Mexican drugs -- while at the same time spending billions and billions more trying to prevent those drugs from reaching us. The effect on our society is everywhere to be seen. Whether its kids nodding off and overdosing in small town Vermont, gang violence in LA, burned out neighborhoods in Detroit -- it's there to see.

What we don't see, however, haven't really noticed, and don't seem to much care about, is the 80,000 dead -- mostly innocent victims in Mexico, just in the past few years. 80,000 dead. 80,000 families who've been touched directly by the so-called war on drugs.

Mexico. Our brother from another mother. A country, with whom, like it or not, we are inexorably, deeply involved, in a close but often uncomfortable embrace.

Look at it. It's beautiful. It has some of the most ravishingly beautiful beaches on earth. Mountains, desert, jungle. Beautiful colonial architecture, a tragic, elegant, violent, ludicrous, heroic, lamentable, heartbreaking history. Mexican wine country rivals Tuscany for gorgeousness. Its archeological sites—the remnants of great empires, unrivaled anywhere.

And as much as we think we know and love it, we have barely scratched the surface of what Mexican food really is. It is NOT melted cheese over a tortilla chip. It is not simple, or easy. It is not simply 'bro food' halftime. It is in fact, old -- older even than the great cuisines of Europe and often deeply complex, refined, subtle, and sophisticated. A true mole sauce, for instance, can take DAYS to make, a balance of freshly (always fresh) ingredients, painstakingly prepared by hand. It could be, should be, one of the most exciting cuisines on the planet. If we paid attention.

The old school cooks of Oaxaca make some of the more difficult to make and nuanced sauces in gastronomy. And some of the new generation, many of whom have trained in the kitchens of America and Europe have returned home to take Mexican food to new and thrilling new heights.

It's a country I feel particularly attached to and grateful for.

In nearly 30 years of cooking professionally, just about every time I walked into a new kitchen, it was a Mexican guy who looked after me, had my back, showed me what was what, was there -- and on the case -- when the cooks more like me, with backgrounds like mine -- ran away to go skiing or surfing -- or simply "flaked." I have been fortunate to track where some of those cooks come from, to go back home with them. To small towns populated mostly by women -- where in the evening, families gather at the town's phone kiosk, waiting for calls from their husbands, sons and brothers who have left to work in our kitchens in the cities of the North. I have been fortunate enough to see where that affinity for cooking comes from, to experience moms and grandmothers preparing many delicious things, with pride and real love, passing that food made by hand, passed from their hands to mine.

In years of making television in Mexico, it's one of the places we, as a crew, are happiest when the day's work is over. We'll gather round a street stall and order soft tacos with fresh, bright, delicious tasting salsas -- drink cold Mexican beer, sip smoky mezcals, listen with moist eyes to sentimental songs from street musicians. We will look around and remark, for the hundredth time, what an extraordinary place this is.

The received wisdom is that Mexico will never change. That is hopelessly corrupt, from top to bottom. That it is useless to resist -- to care, to hope for a happier future.

But there are heroes out there who refuse to go along. On this episode of "Anthony Bourdain Parts Unknown," we meet a few of them. People who are standing up against overwhelming odds, demanding accountability, demanding change -- at great, even horrifying personal cost.

This show is for them.

Edited June 11, 2018 by Marked x 0ne

**xox** · June 11, 2018

^ great text from a great man

Nebraska · June 19, 2018

https://youtu.be/wDhySfkrToU

usagi · June 19, 2018

bye.

**dr lopez** · June 19, 2018

shitty way to go but he was a piece of shit

**Hugh Mughnus** · June 19, 2018

On 6/19/2018 at 2:07 AM, dr lopez said:
shitty way to go but he was a piece of shit

p much.

Another blight on society not gone soon enough. I know I'm kind of shitty saying that, it's a human life and all that. But some people contribute to a culture etc that do society much more harm than good - in this case a woman beater apparently.

ceiling · June 19, 2018

On 6/19/2018 at 2:09 AM, Bulk VanderHooj said:

On 6/19/2018 at 2:07 AM, dr lopez said:
shitty way to go but he was a piece of shit

p much.

Another blight on society not gone soon enough. I know I'm kind of shitty saying that, it's a human life and all that. But some people contribute to a culture etc that do society much more harm than good - in this case a woman beater apparently.

Whatever the case, nobody deserves to die. Was a young kid really who probably had a rough upbringing, experienced violence on a daily basis from a young age.

If he did what he did, he deserved a long prison sentence but death? No way.

Do you guys feel the same way about john lennon?

**dr lopez** · June 19, 2018

no because he made good music lol

zaphod · June 19, 2018

Salvatorin · June 19, 2018

soundcloud rap is the most black metal shit ever because everyone who makes it dies one way or another

**Ivan Ooze** · June 19, 2018

that is fucked up, poor kid

Salvatorin · June 19, 2018

at least he was around long enough to make a music video where he hangs a white child

Zephyr_Nova · June 19, 2018

He may have had a rough upbringing or whatever, but if even half the allegations against him were true, he was a sociopath and sadist of the worst variety.

https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/xxxtentacions-reported-victim-details-grim-pattern-of-abuse-in-testimony/

So... it's probably for the best.

eugene · June 19, 2018

Jimmy Wopo just got shot as well, jesus, what a sad day for music.

usagi · June 19, 2018

just don't take Viper from us.

**hello spiral** · June 19, 2018

On 6/19/2018 at 2:45 AM, dr lopez said:
no because he made good music lol

nope

YangYing · June 19, 2018

20 is too young man

**hello spiral** · June 19, 2018

I am amused whenever one of these guys dies by all the "he was so talented" comments.

Then I click on a track and I hear someone gurgling into autotune over some generic trap beats. Every. Time.

**xox** · June 19, 2018

On 6/19/2018 at 8:54 AM, hello spiral said:

I am amused whenever one of these guys dies by all the "he was so talented" comments.

Then I click on a track and I hear someone gurgling into autotune over some generic trap beats. Every. Time.

this

p.s. lol @savatorin :)

special lol for eugene ;)

**joshuatxuk** · June 19, 2018

Murder is never justified but this is as close I've come to complete apathy to a person's death in a long time - it's sad he was propped up in the music industry, sad fans excuse his entire persona and career and 'talent' because of his self-destruction / self-pity when he should of been institutionalized in some form. just skim this, it's insane - Burzum and Big Lurch level shit. This guy made GG Allin look admirable by comparison.

Quote

Later that day, XXXTentacion left the room and returned with two grilling implements—a “barbecue pitchfork” and a “barbecue cleaner,” she said—and told her to pick between them, because he was going to put one of them in her vagina. She chose the fork. He told her to undress. He was lightly dragging the tool against her inner thigh when she passed out. He did not penetrate her with it.

Fuck the industry for maintaing attention of this person. Even his music was mostly unoriginal or lazy unauthorized samples/remixes of other underground tracks: keep in mind that P4K reviewed this guy but has stopped covering indie rock bands like Ducktails and Ariel Pink for their treatment of women.

It's surreal that even footage of his death was all over twitter and Instagram but I'm not shocked, this is just all around fucked.

Edited June 19, 2018 by joshuatx

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