Braintree Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Not sure how many of you in internet land are aware of the extreme drought happening in California right now. Since I don't hear much about it around here, I may as well be the bearer of bad news. http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-famiglietti-drought-california-20150313-story.html Quote Data from NASA satellites show that the total amount of water stored in the Sacramento and San Joaquin river basins — that is, all of the snow, river and reservoir water, water in soils and groundwater combined — was 34 million acre-feet below normal in 2014. That loss is nearly 1.5 times the capacity of Lake Mead, America's largest reservoir. http://youtu.be/G7h6mS7x-Rg Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Braintree's signature Hide all signatures colindyer.bandcamp.com williamsbraintree.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87133-california-water-crisis/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bechuga Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 I donate to Water Aid monthly, I'll ask them to send you some Evian with my pledge. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Bechuga's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87133-california-water-crisis/#findComment-2307432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted March 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Braintree's signature Hide all signatures colindyer.bandcamp.com williamsbraintree.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87133-california-water-crisis/#findComment-2307433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YO303 Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 this been happening for years right? i would like to know the consequences of this, maybe link to an article with the consequences? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87133-california-water-crisis/#findComment-2307443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted March 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 http://www.feelguide.com/2015/03/22/r-i-p-california-1850-2016-what-well-lose-and-learn-from-the-worlds-first-major-water-collapse/ Not the greatest article, but gives a little bit of info on how much agriculture happens in the central valley. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Braintree's signature Hide all signatures colindyer.bandcamp.com williamsbraintree.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87133-california-water-crisis/#findComment-2307462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi Guys Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 i tried typing things up and i just keep coming up at a loss for words. this is horrible. i knew california was in a bad spot but the extent of it is beyond dire. it's going to hurt to watch it play out. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87133-california-water-crisis/#findComment-2307468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebraska Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) california has 1 year of water storage left then we're going to start going into desperate measures. some parts of california have already began this because of appropriative water rights so if you go to catalina you actually have to buy bottled water in a restaurant rather than how you'd usually get a free glass as a welcoming thirst quencher. consequences of this? well, first, your groceries will become more expensive and if you drink wine from napa valley you should start getting your pallet ready for some wine in a box Edited March 27, 2015 by Nebraska Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87133-california-water-crisis/#findComment-2307505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebraska Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 this is how the drought has affected california so far. if something hasn't happened by september at the latest, you can expect things to get pretty steamy here Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87133-california-water-crisis/#findComment-2307506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
baph Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) Given how much actual fruit/veg produce comes from California vs. the imagined/fictional small midwestern family farmer, Republican types who like to say California isn't the Real America are going to have to eat their words and adjust to a diet of corn syrup and processed grains very quick-- oh, shit. I guess that part will stay the same. We're fucked in CA, though. Edited March 27, 2015 by baph Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87133-california-water-crisis/#findComment-2307511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adieu Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Why are you guys not desalinating ocean water? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Adieu's signature Hide all signatures There will be new love from the ashes of us. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87133-california-water-crisis/#findComment-2307513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilgore Trout Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 gross. i pee in the pacific all the time. maybe that's how things are on uranus, but not here fella. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87133-california-water-crisis/#findComment-2307515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adieu Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 On 3/27/2015 at 5:43 AM, Kilgore Trout said: gross. i pee in the pacific all the time. maybe that's how things are on uranus, but not here fella. I gather from the state of things that if you don't make some kind of adjustment you're all going to be drinking your pee to survive. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Adieu's signature Hide all signatures There will be new love from the ashes of us. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87133-california-water-crisis/#findComment-2307516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilgore Trout Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 hmm. maybe it'll make a man out of me like that bear guy. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87133-california-water-crisis/#findComment-2307517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Mughnus Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) On 3/27/2015 at 5:40 AM, AdieuErsatzEnnui said: Why are you guys not desalinating ocean water? They are actually, California has massive desalinization plants. But there are massive consequences (waste/environmental wise) too... Largest desalinating plant in North America, near San-Diego: http://carlsbaddesal.com/ Some complications from desalinating: http://pacinst.org/publication/desal-marine-impacts/ From what I understand the potent brine that's a byproduct of the process is the most damaging... I'm not expert on the topic of course, I've only read a few articles. Edited March 27, 2015 by StephenG Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Hugh Mughnus's signature Hide all signatures On 1/19/2020 at 5:27 PM, Richie Sombrero said: Nah, you're a wee child who can't wait for official release. Embarrassing. Shove your privilege. On 9/2/2014 at 12:37 AM, Ivan Ooze said: don't be a cockroach prolapsing nun bulkV Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87133-california-water-crisis/#findComment-2307520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambermonk Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 The state where I was born. I haven't been since May 2001, but I hear this drought is the worst it's been in about 1200 years.Any way I can help, or at least donate, I wonder? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ambermonk's signature Hide all signatures On 10/21/2015 at 9:51 AM, peace 7 said: To keep it real and analog, I'm gonna start posting to WATMM by writing my posts in fountain pen on hemp paper, putting them in bottles, and throwing them into the ocean. On 11/5/2013 at 7:51 PM, Sean Ae said: you have to watch those silent people, always trying to trick you with their silence Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87133-california-water-crisis/#findComment-2307521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilgore Trout Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 On 3/27/2015 at 6:17 AM, StephenG said: On 3/27/2015 at 5:40 AM, AdieuErsatzEnnui said: Why are you guys not desalinating ocean water? They are actually, California has massive desalinization plants. But there are massive consequences (waste/environmental wise) too... Largest desalinating plant in North America, near San-Diego: http://carlsbaddesal.com/ Some complications from desalinating: http://pacinst.org/publication/desal-marine-impacts/ From what I understand the potent brine that's a byproduct of the process is the most damaging... I'm not expert on the topic of course, I've only read a few articles. cool! i live 20 miles north of carlsbad and i didn't even know that was there. i used to stay at my cousins house down there and surf at those jettys all the time (the waters really warm because of the powerplant nearby). i always thought that lagoon was just an oyster farm. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87133-california-water-crisis/#findComment-2307523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Mughnus Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) On 3/27/2015 at 6:45 AM, Kilgore Trout said: On 3/27/2015 at 6:17 AM, StephenG said: On 3/27/2015 at 5:40 AM, AdieuErsatzEnnui said: Why are you guys not desalinating ocean water? They are actually, California has massive desalinization plants. But there are massive consequences (waste/environmental wise) too... Largest desalinating plant in North America, near San-Diego: http://carlsbaddesal.com/ Some complications from desalinating: http://pacinst.org/publication/desal-marine-impacts/ From what I understand the potent brine that's a byproduct of the process is the most damaging... I'm not expert on the topic of course, I've only read a few articles. (the waters really warm because of the powerplant nearby). That explains this: Radiation! I jest I jest. But yeah it sounds like California is really trying. Interestingly enough, they should look to Israel for their desalination solutions. Israel has (from what I understand) the most successful and efficient program in the world. Edited March 27, 2015 by StephenG Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Hugh Mughnus's signature Hide all signatures On 1/19/2020 at 5:27 PM, Richie Sombrero said: Nah, you're a wee child who can't wait for official release. Embarrassing. Shove your privilege. On 9/2/2014 at 12:37 AM, Ivan Ooze said: don't be a cockroach prolapsing nun bulkV Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87133-california-water-crisis/#findComment-2307524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpenprol Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 I have read that it's at least in part related to China pollution changing weather patterns...it wouldn't surprise me. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide lumpenprol's signature Hide all signatures After this I listened to geogaddi and I didn't like it, I was quite vomitting at some tracks, I realized they were too crazy for my ears, they took too much acid to play music I stupidly thought (cliché of psyché music) But I knew this album was a kind of big forest where I just wasn't able to go inside. - lost cloud I was in US tjis summer, and eat in KFC. FUCK That's the worst thing i've ever eaten. The flesh simply doesn't cleave to the bones. Battery ferming. And then, foie gras is banned from NY state, because it's considered as ill-treat. IT'S NOT. KFC is tourist ill-treat. YOU POISONERS! Two hours after being to KFC, i stopped in a amsih little town barf all that KFC shit out. Nice work! So i hope this woman is not like kfc chicken, otherwise she'll be pulled to pieces. -organized confused project Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87133-california-water-crisis/#findComment-2307529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YO303 Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) sorry for my ignorance but whats causing this? just extreme heat? are these signs of climate change? if so why is everyone ignoring it as evidence? Edited March 27, 2015 by Deer Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87133-california-water-crisis/#findComment-2307550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi Guys Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 i dont think that plant near san diego is quite up and running yet Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87133-california-water-crisis/#findComment-2307566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) desalinate your shit nigs, this is the way. israeli was drying up its main lake for years, scary ads on tv about israel drying up Reveal hidden contents , water conservation policies and other crazy stuff but once the plants started working full time it all went poof like it never even existed, the agriculture uses mostly desalinated water now. Edited March 27, 2015 by eugene Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87133-california-water-crisis/#findComment-2307575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubin Farr Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 So is this some fallout from mismanagement by Schwarzenegger? My mother regularly travels to Cali and said he was the worst governor they had in decades. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Positive Metal Attitude Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87133-california-water-crisis/#findComment-2307579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricone RC Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 On 3/27/2015 at 10:02 AM, Deer said: sorry for my ignorance but whats causing this? just extreme heat? are these signs of climate change? if so why is everyone ignoring it as evidence? Seems like it's just what happens when you build massive cities and establish huge agricultural operations that are completely inappropriate to the local climate. Always seemed to me like the whole culture around water use was pretty much imported wholesale from the east and midwest. Not just stuff like green lawns and golf courses (which are wasteful but probably fairly minor overall), but things like the total lack of any attempt to capture waste rainwater and to basically just ditch it all into the sea, and the huuuge reliance on groundwater reserves that in other areas might have a decent recharge rate but in Cali recharge much more slowly, if at all. From day one Cali should have built stuff more suitable for the available water supply. Too late for that now, so the solution is either to desalinate seawater on a mahooosive scale (which is obscenely expensive) or adapt (which will be a huge shock economically and culturally, and would involve basically giving up 50% of agriculture in the Central Valley). So this shit is basically inevitable anyway, although climate change might make it worse in future especially if snowpack in the Sierra Nevada etc is reduced which would lower river levels even more PS i've studied some of this shit but i've never actually been to california lol Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87133-california-water-crisis/#findComment-2307626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny O Flannagin Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Damn, Im I gonna have to move? I feel like there's so much invested in California that it would be hard to just abandon it. One's things for sure, things are going to get a lot more expensive Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Danny O Flannagin's signature Hide all signatures https://nimajeb.bandcamp.com/music https://www.instagram.com/bengastphoto/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87133-california-water-crisis/#findComment-2307775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebraska Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 On 3/27/2015 at 5:40 AM, AdieuErsatzEnnui said: Why are you guys not desalinating ocean water? because we contaminated it Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87133-california-water-crisis/#findComment-2307794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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