why is good (dark) ambient so impactful?

  On 7/3/2015 at 7:19 AM, Ivan Ooze said:

 

  On 7/3/2015 at 6:53 AM, logakght said:

 

  On 7/3/2015 at 6:27 AM, Danny O Flannagin said:

 

  On 7/3/2015 at 1:43 AM, logakght said:

 

  On 7/2/2015 at 11:02 PM, Gocab said:

It's reminicent of the sounds you heard inside the womb as you were being formed in the mothership, before being ejected through space.

 

epic lol at this.

 

dunno, but it must be something related to an actual physiological thing in our brains. I mean, even if you don't "like" or "know" ambient music, people tend so feel relaxed when hearing that kind of shit.

 

that's why i believe ambient music is the purest form of music.

 

What does this even mean?

 

 

that it is universally good.

 

Some people like metal music, some not. Some people like the IDMz, other people not. Some people like Mozart and similar stuff, some people not. Some people like rap, other not... But, ambient music, when done okai, will please absolutely any brain out there. I didn't meant that its like the only music out there, but its the most likable, independently of culture or education.

 

pd: fuck my english writing/talking skill is going to shit. gotta get some courses quick.

 

 

haha, god damnit. this is me. :(

  On 7/3/2015 at 7:30 AM, maitake said:

 

  On 7/3/2015 at 7:19 AM, Ivan Ooze said:

 

  On 7/3/2015 at 6:53 AM, logakght said:

 

  On 7/3/2015 at 6:27 AM, Danny O Flannagin said:

 

  On 7/3/2015 at 1:43 AM, logakght said:

 

  On 7/2/2015 at 11:02 PM, Gocab said:

It's reminicent of the sounds you heard inside the womb as you were being formed in the mothership, before being ejected through space.

 

epic lol at this.

 

dunno, but it must be something related to an actual physiological thing in our brains. I mean, even if you don't "like" or "know" ambient music, people tend so feel relaxed when hearing that kind of shit.

 

that's why i believe ambient music is the purest form of music.

 

What does this even mean?

 

 

that it is universally good.

 

Some people like metal music, some not. Some people like the IDMz, other people not. Some people like Mozart and similar stuff, some people not. Some people like rap, other not... But, ambient music, when done okai, will please absolutely any brain out there. I didn't meant that its like the only music out there, but its the most likable, independently of culture or education.

 

pd: fuck my english writing/talking skill is going to shit. gotta get some courses quick.

 

 

 

 

haha, god damnit. this is me. :(

 

we all are me too.

want to cry together over some william basinski loops?

Ambient basement dwellers unite!

*pain-meds dribble alert disclaimer

  On 7/3/2015 at 5:45 AM, willochill said:

 

Good to know there's another RHK fan on this forum

Fuckin LOVE Kirk, Sheffield's finest & such a contrast to Manchester. Def the real genius behind Cabaret Voltaire. The man's influence on British electronic music (and music in general) is painfully neglected. Tunes-wise your ears are spoiled for choice; the warped as fuck funk of Voice Of America, the utter headfuck of Disposable Half-Truths.....eg:

,,,,,,,, plus the epiphany rapture trips of various Sandoz & Electronic Eye lp's, ep's and 12"s. Also, the Earlier/Later release on Mute is rammed with dystopian-zen classics and def worth your hard-earned sheckles:

http://www.discogs.com/Richard-H-Kirk-Earlier-Later-Unreleased-Projects-Anthology-74-89/release/259865

Coil pretty much define the high water-mark of the completely out-there, esoteric worlds this music can create. Magnetic North, Journey to Avebury & Spring Equinox Part1 (Moon's Milk) are some personal favourites. Stunning sounds:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHQ3ldeYhiY

Going much deeper into the recesses are tracks like Queen of the Circulating Library, The Gimp (prefer the 5mins of chaos b4 the beat/vocal) and Last Rites of Spring.

(this live version of LRoS for the first 7&half mins is a must for the William Burroughs hallucinating space/animals hallucinating time insania AND check the lemur tripping on some kind of toxic millipede in the video projection = wtf)

Andrew Liles & Steven Stapleton deserve their own threads, but to bypass attention spans, these deserve a listen

there are loads of other Nurse bits, but fading fast, maybe someone else could drop a few more here

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Some people like metal music, some not. Some people like the IDMz, other people not

If you ask me, the pepl who don't like IDM are leading this country down the TUBES! Wherever those lead.

more impactful music

Last but not least, Julian Cope's epic Breath of Odin...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEd6KsbhkTk

Lustmord/Robert Rich....

Luke Lund

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0Gy7WocavY

cant find a decent clip of Julian Cope & Thighpaulsandra's "Eisteddfodd 69", but its off this release:

http://www.discogs.com/Queen-Elizabeth-Queen-Elizabeth-2-Elizabeth-Vagina/release/301342

  On 7/3/2015 at 8:20 AM, cwmbrancity said:

 

 

Andrew Liles & Steven Stapleton deserve their own threads, but to bypass attention spans, these deserve a listen

 

 

there are loads of other Nurse bits, but fading fast, maybe someone else could drop a few more here

 

 

not to forget matt waldron / irr. app. (ext.)

check out this track from perekluchenie

Always loved Coil's approach to ambient, something very trance (not that kind) or ritualistic about it. reminds me of Celer's lovely warm loops, but turning the thermostat down. I don't think the power of ambient music is too far detached from basic music theory but something otherwordly about it that just seems to defy explanation. Rrose's recent performance of "never having written a note for percussion" is the most recent thing I can think of that gives me those hypnotic vibes. Definitely something in the way humans socialise and form culture to do with it.

  On 7/3/2015 at 12:55 AM, hello spiral said:

 

  On 7/2/2015 at 11:53 PM, dr lopez said:

tim hecker is not that good

 

fight me irl

  On 7/3/2015 at 11:58 AM, kieselguhr kid said:

 

not to forget matt waldron / irr. app. (ext.)

check out this track from perekluchenie

 

Aye a few of those irr/Nurse With Wound collaborations weaved their way into recent mixes and Mr Spel/Pink Dots cv speaks for itself

Not a hardcore philosophy bod, but reading around jouissance/Lacan and forms of pleasure generated by the meditative/transcendental properties of sound & music, still seems to get pretty close to the essence or qualia of such experiences. The beauty is in the range and nuances. Musicophilia (sp?) by Jonathon Sacks has case studies that elaborate on some of these aspects much better than i can from a neurological perspective. Better to post some classics

  On 7/3/2015 at 12:21 PM, WeAreOceans said:

 

  On 7/3/2015 at 12:55 AM, hello spiral said:

 

  On 7/2/2015 at 11:53 PM, dr lopez said:

tim hecker is not that good

 

 

fight me irl

Yeah ok, one sec.

I've just gotta stick these emo post-rock chord progressions through some glitch and distortion vsts.

Be right there!

All Tim Hecker h8trz:

Meet me in Novosibirsk, no handguns or SMGs, only knives.

fuck yeah at the suggestions above, keep them coming. some are new to me, will check out!

i'm not sure i agree that dark ambient is universally liked; hell the entire reason i'm posting this here is this is the most receptive audience that might relate.

Current 93 have some hidden sonic gems when Tibet lets the music do the talking

serious studio chops certainly give things a dimension unto themselves

  On 7/3/2015 at 12:21 PM, WeAreOceans said:

reminds me of Celer's lovely warm loops, but turning the thermostat down.

what's a good starting point with Celer, in your opinion?

I've been a big fan of some similar artists like Hakobune, former selves, widesky, etc

yall listen to this

  On 7/2/2015 at 11:53 PM, dr lopez said:

tim hecker is not that good

Harmony in Ultraviolet disagrees with this statement, both objectively and subjectively.

Also: my favorite NWW track

And does it always have to be dark ambient? This is from 1981 and is fucking amazing.

and speaking of ambient, The Orb have a new one out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBOARbaIJg8

the first time i listened to hello everything i was high and when vacuum garden came on, it terrified me, kinda glued me to the spot. when it ended, i was basically about to throw my headphones off because it was too intense. honestly hard to describe how i felt, kinda like my mind was being unglued. subsequent listening didn't induce the same feelings.

+1 'vacuum garden'. also his 'vacuum tracks' 3" WARP CD 148, & the dark ambient 'obeilsk' trak on :squarepusher_logo:'s 'my red hot car' ep WAP147 r all siicckk, imo.

bin <3in' red fog (:

https://redfog-drone.bandcamp.com

https://soundcloud.com/red-fog

superb drone pieces inspired by local landscapes

https://orphax.bandcamp.com/album/over-hoe-de-regte-heide

and cheers for the tunes, keep em coming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYZ2mDEvE_M

and a Floyd secret weapon.....

  On 7/4/2015 at 3:17 AM, joshuatx said:

 

  On 7/3/2015 at 12:21 PM, WeAreOceans said:

reminds me of Celer's lovely warm loops, but turning the thermostat down.

 

what's a good starting point with Celer, in your opinion?

 

I've been a big fan of some similar artists like Hakobune, former selves, widesky, etc

 

I couldn't tell you, their discography is vast and I have personally only scratched the surface of their work. Personal favourites of mine are Sadha, Foolish Causes of Fail and Ruin, Vestiges of an Inherent Melancholy and Discourses of the Withered.

Check out Chubby Wolf as well, after Danielle died in 2009 her husband and partner in Celer has been releasing some of her work as that alias.

Nurse on hallucinogens

Robert Ashley doing something very similar

and 1-time Velveteer Angus Maclise

  On 7/3/2015 at 6:12 AM, Vilwx said:

 

 

  On 7/3/2015 at 1:10 AM, misc said:

 

I really like this and i've never really listened to zoviet france before, where should i start?

 

Shadow, Thief of the Sun is one of my favorite albums. Absolutely try that one. Also related to ZF:

Rapoon - Fires of the Borderlands

Dead Voices on Air - Shap; From Labrador to Madagascar

 

Some of these aren't strictly ambient, and don't focus necessarily on texture, etc. but are impactful to me:

Coil - The Remote Viewer

Labradford - A Stable Reference

Delerium - Spiritual Archives

SPK - Zamia Lehmanni

Fantomas - Delirium Cordia (this is really a metal album, but there are some ambient moments that draw me in for the same reasons as these others I'm listing)

Test Dept - Materia Prima (maybe about half of the tracks here)

 

Some other artists that I haven't listened to enough of to recommend, but might interest some, and maybe someone can expand on these: Lull, Main, Fossil Aerosol Mining Project

wow that's a lot to work through, thanks