Roland Finally Made an Analog Poly

  On 7/15/2015 at 1:06 AM, delet... said:

you should buy it then we can complain about your studio not being clean enough E-;

 

Well, my studio is about 30% music gear, 70% pubic hair, so you can already complain if you want.

 

Also, the Roland SYSTEM-1 looks nice, and I suppose if your studio has several of the new Roland toys, it might look cool with dim lighting. But the reason why TRON looks so cool, is cuz the glowing lines are primarily... LINES. The longer the lines/curves, the cooler and phuture-tech it looks. If it's a small unit with bright ass LEDs and no flowing glow lines, it just looks annoying. I've taped over monitor and other equipment LEDs, cuz they really don't need to be so bright. Fucking annoying. "Yeah, I know my monitor is on, cuz I'm fucking using it, dude."

 

If I designed a synth- and in my head I have!- I'd use extremely dim LEDs, so it has that old school calculator vibe. Basically I'd just make it look like a 70's/80's calculator, cuz they look so badass.

 

Like imagine how squelchy the acid lines on this sound:

  On 7/15/2015 at 7:37 AM, peace 7 said:

I've taped over monitor and other equipment LEDs, cuz they really don't need to be so bright. Fucking annoying. "Yeah, I know my monitor is on, cuz I'm fucking using it, dude."

 

lol yes. ditto. trying to watch something on telly and having a multiude of LED spotlights blinding me from low couch viewing angle. different bright blinding light, one for on and one for off. its so stupid... *tape tape tape*

 

also. nice calculator. needs a big CUTOFF knob and few smaller ones near the top and it'd be fucking mint. dim-lit LED for on screen information and saving patches. come on roland. make it happen.

that calculator does look like its meant to sound very lush. i just want to press those keys and hear the synthetic waterfall in the dim light strips of an hidden electronic grove.

Seriously, bright lights are a conspiracy alongside the loudness wars. The purpose of the loudness wars? A lot of people think the evil purpose of hardcore brickwall shit is to deafen people, but that's not the case. The point is to DESENSITIZE EMOTIONS! Because when a brain gets used to blasting sounds, it expects loudness and cannot listen to subtleties without boredom, and dynamic range is where the emotion lies! Much in the same way, the evil intention of bright lights on motherfucking everything (including super bright office lights, super bright computer monitors and TVs, etc.), is to get people's eyes used to seeing everything at the top levels of brightness perception, which like the loudness wars, makes it so people aren't able to notice subtleties in value. Film was a wonderful medium for photography and movies, because much of the detail was able to be captured in shadows. Being able to perceive the massive amount of dynamic range in shadows is required for VISUAL PERCEPTION OF TRIBAL REALITY, which is engrained in humans due to looking at firelit environments for hundreds of thousands of years. Digital cameras have their sensors botched to "make them perceive like humans", but they are actually capable of capturing much more of shadow detail than software allows. Bright lights were once only reserved for EPIC EVENTS, such as lightning, volcanoes erupting, and running through a field of golden flowers with Jesus and Zeus when you're tripping on shrooms. Now we see flashing lights everywhere, and they mean NOTHING. This is not how it's supposed to be and is a bastardization of nature.

 

This excessive hardcore brickwall limiting deadening of ALL SENSES is being attempted-- with sight, with sound, with taste (overly salty and spiced up shit), with smell (perfumes and room sprays), with touch (sex toys), and even psychic realms are being muddled up with noise due to electromagnetic interference.

 

So basically- with regards to the tangent of this thread- fuck bright lights up the ass. They do have a purpose (like you need them for growing good indoor ganj), but they don't need to be in our eyes 24/7. If you are using your cell phone at max brightness... BEWARE! Your emotionality and humanity are suffering. I keep my phone as dim as possible to look like paper. And then I turn it off. And then I start busting out the amen break on a tree stump with my dick. My dick looks horrible because of it. All mangled up.

you know, in my mind i designed an fm synth, and the interface was very similar to the renoise dx, only it had no keyboard and you had vector envelopes so you could switch between 4 4-op patches

 

it was black

and the dark red touchscreen controls glowed in the dark behind thick plastic/glass/whatever old lcd screens were made of

 

ps imo the aira stuff doesn't look that bad but this thing is atrocious, however it looks like a very useable interface and the lcd's are very useful in a live setting

also, does anyone actually use analogue polysynths? i love the sound of the polysix, but really...

 

ps2 (by sony) the filter sounds very nice

Edited July 15, 2015 by poblequadrat

The synth engine confuses me. It's analog... but digital... but has like 100029432 voices and a more effects than a lot of my racks. I'm somewhat skeptical. After watching a few more video's, I don't like the sound as much as older poly's or even the new Prophet 6.

 

  On 7/15/2015 at 6:09 PM, poblequadrat said:

also, does anyone actually use analogue polysynths? i love the sound of the polysix, but really...

 

I do. Analog poly's are my favorite synths to play with/record with because being the awesome synth-twiddler I am - I can play with one finger and make it mono!

 

But seriously, large analog poly's are really sought after in the synth market and bring the most $ at sale aside from rare Moog Modulars, ARP2500-ARP2600 (dont know why on the 2600...), Macbeth gear and some of the rarer modular mono's.

  On 7/15/2015 at 6:46 PM, Audioblysk said:

The synth engine confuses me. It's analog... but digital... but has like 100029432 voices and a more effects than a lot of my racks. I'm somewhat skeptical. After watching a few more video's, I don't like the sound as much as older poly's or even the new Prophet 6.

 

That's typical Roland though! I usually can't get my head around synths with that many features, but at least here the interface seems to make things simple.

 

 

  On 7/15/2015 at 6:46 PM, Audioblysk said:

 

  On 7/15/2015 at 6:09 PM, poblequadrat said:

also, does anyone actually use analogue polysynths? i love the sound of the polysix, but really...

 

I do. Analog poly's are my favorite synths to play with/record with because being the awesome synth-twiddler I am - I can play with one finger and make it mono!

 

But seriously, large analog poly's are really sought after in the synth market and bring the most $ at sale aside from rare Moog Modulars, ARP2500-ARP2600 (dont know why on the 2600...), Macbeth gear and some of the rarer modular mono's.

 

Well, yeah, I know they're really expensive, which is why I haven't seen many of them! Most people I know (well, to be honest... the 2 people I know who make electronic music) go for more affordable gear, such as Microbrutes, MS-20s, Volcas, Microkorgs (lol) and old FM synths, but it must be great actually using a Juno or a Prophet! I wish I knew how to program Sylvian/Sakamoto-type sounds :)

 

Also I'm a big fan of the Polysix VST, if the real thing is anything like it it must be really awesome.

 

i still don't really imagine your average synthpunk guy/idm guy getting an analogue poly old or new.

Edited July 15, 2015 by poblequadrat

  On 7/15/2015 at 6:46 PM, Audioblysk said:

The synth engine confuses me. It's analog... but digital... but has like 100029432 voices and a more effects than a lot of my racks. I'm somewhat skeptical. After watching a few more video's, I don't like the sound as much as older poly's or even the new Prophet 6.

It's not that weird, it's an analog poly with a digital workstation keyboard tacked on or vice versa. They're seperate engines, but share the digital effects and midi.

 

The analog sounds pretty lush to my ears, haven't checked out what the digital part sounds like at all, seems like a waste. If they shaved off the workstation and bright LEDs maybe it would be more reasonably priced as well?

 

What I'm asking for is a desktop analog poly module, scrap the rest. Roland pls.

 

PS make it modular, like the aira System 1 M.

Edited July 15, 2015 by Gocab

Shit, I misread. 4 voice analog makes way more sense and the plain analog sounds really good. I was watching the wrong videos, the dudes playing on it were making the lamest sounds. I thought it said 64 voice analog polyphony and I was really confused.

 

My bad

Ha! If it was 64 voice analog the price point would be much more agreeable to me.

  On 7/15/2015 at 7:11 PM, poblequadrat said:

 

i still don't really imagine your average synthpunk guy/idm guy getting an analogue poly old or new.

 

this is true not because average synth guys can't afford them but mainly because average synth guys don't do very much research about older gear that isn't hyped up or fetishized into the ground. Once you start looking around these 'blind spots' you'll start finding a lot of incredible gear for under $1000 or $500 including polyphonic analog. 'obscure' Roland 80s rack synths are a good place to start

Edited July 15, 2015 by John Ehrlichman

i like hardware because you don't need a license to borrow it, you own it and you can sell it for whatever you want.

Red text on black is a super well known design fail. Color blind people won't be able to read it at all.

  On 7/14/2015 at 7:16 AM, StephenG said:

What are you guys finding so ugly about it? I think it's pretty slick looking myself....

Personally I think it looks great (but then I do have shit taste).

In Norway we have this expression, it looks like a bombed whorehouse. Yeah, that's what it looks like.

As shallow as this sounds...

 

I would probably save up to buy it if it had the classic system 100/SH-5 design

(The Jupiter 4 has it too, but to a lesser extant)

 

I just think that it's the most beautiful synth design of all time

 

Again,no know it's shallow

But that would definitely tip the scales for me in favor of buying it

 

 

I just think Roland is sitting on a gold mine with that whole late 70's vibe

 

I don't even really hate the new design

I kinda like the whole 90's Roland digital vibe

 

but holy shit if they did a limited run with an System 100-ish kinda look

i would indeed work my ass off and buy it

Edited July 16, 2015 by LimpyLoo

yeah fucking love that green and grey colour scheme

  On 7/15/2015 at 7:11 PM, poblequadrat said:

 

  On 7/15/2015 at 6:46 PM, Audioblysk said:

The synth engine confuses me. It's analog... but digital... but has like 100029432 voices and a more effects than a lot of my racks. I'm somewhat skeptical. After watching a few more video's, I don't like the sound as much as older poly's or even the new Prophet 6.

 

That's typical Roland though! I usually can't get my head around synths with that many features, but at least here the interface seems to make things simple.

 

 

  On 7/15/2015 at 6:46 PM, Audioblysk said:

 

  On 7/15/2015 at 6:09 PM, poblequadrat said:

also, does anyone actually use analogue polysynths? i love the sound of the polysix, but really...

 

I do. Analog poly's are my favorite synths to play with/record with because being the awesome synth-twiddler I am - I can play with one finger and make it mono!

 

But seriously, large analog poly's are really sought after in the synth market and bring the most $ at sale aside from rare Moog Modulars, ARP2500-ARP2600 (dont know why on the 2600...), Macbeth gear and some of the rarer modular mono's.

 

...MS-20s, Volcas, Microkorgs (lol) and old FM synths, but it must be ...

 

Serious question: why are Microkorgs 'LOL'? I'm looking at getting a new smallish hardware synth at the moment.

Also, the reason I bought my Quaismidi Sirius is because it looks like Star Trek.

 

^ woah that looks excellent. I'm not at all familiar with quasimidi stuff!

 

 

And there's nothing wrong with a microkorg imo. Especially if you get the keytar version :D

Waldorf pulled garish off with the Microwave and Q but Roland have tipped the scales the wrong way for me.

Love classic Sh/JP slider heavy interface but I need more than 4 voice analogue, May even sell JP4 for a prophet 6.

Microkorgs are really great sounding. digits make it a pain to program unless you use it all the time to keep on top of it.

  On 7/17/2015 at 9:47 AM, Haste said:

Also, the reason I bought my Quaismidi Sirius is because it looks like Star Trek.

 

 

i've never ever heard of that thing

what it do?

 

(p.s. it's been a month or two since I gushed about the MicroKorg...I love that thing, it just happens to be mass-produced synth that was seen as a beginner preset machine, although it's a lovely, powerful little thing...but hey i have weird taste in synths so ymmv)

The Microkorg is really powerful and there's nothing wrong with it. The interface is even relatively workable, but if i hear one more arpeggiated microkorg preset i'm gonna throw up (that's the main reason for the lol).

 

Personally i think it's not that easy to make sounds with, though, because on the one hand you have really bright and buzzy sounds with a lot of presence, and on the other noisy, "airy" VA stuff which sounds as if you had run it through 20 effect pedals, and although you have different filters it all falls into these two categories somehow.

 

However I'm pretty sure there must be few better synths for the price, and I also have weird taste in synths (the CZ1000 and DX21 being my favourites).

Edited July 17, 2015 by poblequadrat