Are working conditions getting worse?

WATMM should found its own company and share the profits with its members equally. I would be the CEO because I brought up the idea, obviously.

As CEO you'd have to come up with a display name tho.

  On 7/26/2015 at 5:51 PM, ambermonk said:

As CEO you'd have to come up with a display name tho.

lol!

nice

  On 7/25/2015 at 11:33 PM, StephenG said:

 

  On 7/25/2015 at 11:02 PM, poblequadrat said:

 

  On 7/25/2015 at 10:57 PM, StephenG said:

Statistically at least we are working far less hours? I'd say as a condition that's fairly significant?

 

Note: this statistic is factors out unemployment. It's only among employed people.

 

 

yes, minijobs, 1-day contracts and 0-hour contracts are the best thing ever

 

 

Can you explain the relevance to the graph I posted? Even if more people were taking mini jobs and short contracts, their total working hours needed to sustain themselves is going down. That is important.

 

Coz it's not "total working hours needed to sustain themselves", it's just "total working hours". People might be working less, but without any info on wages or those wages' actual purchasing power as experienced by the earner, it's simply an assertion that lower hours means they're better off... The rise of zero-hours bullshit retail non-jobs and crushing student debt certainly implies to me that a lot of those people with low hours would fellate a zebra for more hours.

TBH I expect that Baby Bummers, esp those who worked in public sector, will go down in history as the most affluent generation ever - I'd be very surprised if we or our children will ever be able to match their lifestyles.

  On 7/27/2015 at 3:59 PM, Tricone RC said:

 

  On 7/25/2015 at 11:33 PM, StephenG said:

 

  On 7/25/2015 at 11:02 PM, poblequadrat said:

 

  On 7/25/2015 at 10:57 PM, StephenG said:

Statistically at least we are working far less hours? I'd say as a condition that's fairly significant?

 

Note: this statistic is factors out unemployment. It's only among employed people.

 

 

yes, minijobs, 1-day contracts and 0-hour contracts are the best thing ever

 

 

Can you explain the relevance to the graph I posted? Even if more people were taking mini jobs and short contracts, their total working hours needed to sustain themselves is going down. That is important.

 

Coz it's not "total working hours needed to sustain themselves", it's just "total working hours". People might be working less, but without any info on wages or those wages' actual purchasing power as experienced by the earner, it's simply an assertion that lower hours means they're better off... The rise of zero-hours bullshit retail non-jobs and crushing student debt certainly implies to me that a lot of those people with low hours would fellate a zebra for more hours.

 

TBH I expect that Baby Bummers, esp those who worked in public sector, will go down in history as the most affluent generation ever - I'd be very surprised if we or our children will ever be able to match their lifestyles.

 

I've given data elsewhere to support my claim. I don't feel like re-hashing it.

  On 7/25/2015 at 8:16 PM, eugene said:

did you guys simply try getting rich? you don't need to work if you're rich so you won't have those problems.

this is close to what our Treasurer said a few months ago, though he was talking about housing affordability.