Help Venetian Snares

Very short live clip from his set at Autechre show last night, apparently he did all new music:

https://instagram.com/p/8UZ_iipqpU/

Was saying to him he should sell some live sets on Bandcamp. That'd be fantastic.

  On 10/2/2015 at 4:12 PM, WeAreOceans said:

Very short live clip from his set at Autechre show last night, apparently he did all new music:

 

https://instagram.com/p/8UZ_iipqpU/

Oh shit he's opening for Autechre??? *shoots self in face for not getting ticket to the Vancouver show*

I've seen Ae twice, and had no one to go with this time around, but I would have made the lonely trip to see both VS and Ae in one night. Damn damn damn!!!

  On 10/7/2015 at 1:59 PM, Zephyr_Nova said:

 

  On 10/2/2015 at 4:12 PM, WeAreOceans said:

Very short live clip from his set at Autechre show last night, apparently he did all new music:

 

https://instagram.com/p/8UZ_iipqpU/

 

Oh shit he's opening for Autechre??? *shoots self in face for not getting ticket to the Vancouver show*

I've seen Ae twice, and had no one to go with this time around, but I would have made the lonely trip to see both VS and Ae in one night. Damn damn damn!!!

 

yeah surprised there wasn't more buzz around that date, I'd have loved to go if the Atlantic wasn't in the way.

ie soundboard .. puhlease ..

*fingerbang, wink*

*fingerbang, wink*

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VS before a Ae ? thats not a good idea, too exhausting for the ears to fully digest an Ae show

  On 10/12/2015 at 9:11 PM, Kavinsky said:

VS before a Ae ? thats not a good idea, too exhausting for the ears to fully digest an Ae show

Isn't that why we wear earplugs?

i think i remember at a festival hearing luke viber dj set, then autechre, after that otto von shirach, venetatian snare and then like 10 hours after that merzbow and sunn drone

was not a problem

  On 10/22/2015 at 1:23 AM, Ivan Ooze said:

i think i remember at a festival hearing luke viber dj set, then autechre, after that otto von shirach, venetatian snare and then like 10 hours after that merzbow and sunn drone

was not a problem

Dour 2007, I was there too lol

yeah the vibert>autechre>snares>otto combo was amazing

missed merzbow and sunn o))) tho, fuckfuck

Good night that was :)

I absent-mindedly parred Ghostface Killah that Dour when he came and sat down next to me and my girlfriend at the time because I was rolling a magic stick - didn't click with me that it was him until a couple of minutes after I'd wandered off wiv m'lady.

  On 10/22/2015 at 1:23 AM, Ivan Ooze said:

i think i remember at a festival hearing luke viber dj set, then autechre, after that otto von shirach, venetatian snare and then like 10 hours after that merzbow and sunn drone

was not a problem

Whoooooooooooa. That sounds like one hell of a night.

  On 8/26/2015 at 10:12 PM, o00o said:

 

  On 8/26/2015 at 9:59 PM, Dean Carbin said:

 

  On 8/26/2015 at 9:15 PM, o00o said:

yeah a person with a truck sized modular doesn't have real financial problems. It shows how much disconnected to reality he and everybody supporting this is.

Case closed, Lieutenant Columbo.

 

 

 

I see a lot of money in this picture

 

I wanted to point this out but I don't know if he bought it, rented it or was sponsored.

If he bought it, then yeah, there is a shitload of money. And it is not really necessary gear too.

  On 8/27/2015 at 3:50 AM, auxien said:

I don't much enjoy Funk's tunes. He's undoubtedly talented, and I've heard bits and pieces that were interesting and unique (I've seen some really cool bits posted to his Instagram), but just never a single track that kept my interest.

 

But the idea of someone expressing his distaste for doing a thing and then quickly doing that thing is weird. Even before the plea for help in his 'very serious' situation, the FACT interview was weird and off-putting. He's interviewing with someone from FACT while talking shit about FACT; he's hating on people talking about his music and rating it/judging it/whatever, while knowing good and well that much of his fan-base is exactly the type of people who frequent forums that discuss music, of course including his; he talks shit about 'having' to perform shows, calling it putting on a 'clown show at a some fucking club' (here he essentially belittles not only his paying fans but the club promoters, his label or whoever does his booking and such); he then is all the while interviewing to promote his new album which he expresses serious contempt for even having to release at all. To be fair, he washes it all under with a statement of 'oh I guess it's not that bad I only hate these parts of my job' and concedes that it's not that worst thing ever.

 

Like, I get that he's just laying out his opinions, which were asked of him. And of course he's nowhere near the first artist to have this type of stance; even RDJ has said as much if not worse things in interviews (assuming they were at least partly true). But the problem I have (I know you can't wait to hear it!) is with anyone in that sort of standoffish position being so near-sighted about how they do things, it always appears to me as childish.

 

It reminds me of crust-punk type fuckers, the type of people (or at least my conception of that 'type' of person, which admittedly could be entirely skewed by false impressions) who hate society and will denounce money and talk shit about businessmen, all the while sitting on a sidewalk with a hat out begging for change. Again, that example is perhaps more fiction than fact, but I'd guess we've all seen some level of that in people.

 

In a perhaps more realistic analog, on Monday Funk goes to his boss (his fans) and complains about how he thinks his boss is often shitty and he hates the hours he has to work and how he hates even having to work at all and how he'd leave in a heartbeat if he could, then on Tuesday goes to his boss and asks for a raise. That's essentially what's happened. To me, that's just the strangest thing, not that people do it, or that people go along with it, but that Funk himself has the balls or the blindness to do it. I guess in a 'have-to' situation, you bite the bullet and do what you've gotta do, but I just couldn't be that kind of person. He obviously can, or feels no choice and thus goes through with it.

 

To clarify I'm really not hating on him specifically, maybe he truly is in dire straits and a few hundred quick bucks in his pocket could get him out of a jam. And props to him for not asking for donations and actually just asking fans to purchase a product he sells; there's certainly dignity in that. I'm just mostly interested in those types of personalities when faced with such situations.

I believe you have basically described mentally ill people and I believe, no evidence for it, Funk will have his share of mental problems causing him being extremely socially awkward and impractical. I have empathy for these people but I also absolutely understand your point of view.

Also, leave oOOo alone. He was totally on point.

  On 8/27/2015 at 4:29 AM, Ascdi said:

 

  On 8/27/2015 at 3:50 AM, auxien said:

In a perhaps more realistic analog, on Monday Funk goes to his boss (his fans) and complains about how he thinks his boss is often shitty and he hates the hours he has to work and how he hates even having to work at all and how he'd leave in a heartbeat if he could, then on Tuesday goes to his boss and asks for a raise. That's essentially what's happened. To me, that's just the strangest thing, not that people do it, or that people go along with it, but that Funk himself has the balls or the blindness to do it. I guess in a 'have-to' situation, you bite the bullet and do what you've gotta do, but I just couldn't be that kind of person. He obviously can, or feels no choice and thus goes through with it.

 

Not picking on your post specifically, just responding to the general idea, mentioned by a few, embodied in the above paragraph.

 

Snares is your friend. You’re reading watmm; Snares makes fucking mental-ass electric music with a pace and intensity almost unmatched. You may not even personally like his music, but the fact that this board exists, that we read it, and Snares has a giant modular and uses it to inflict terror on grannies and unsuspecting rave bros alike means that we and he are one and the same tribe. People like that are people you should help if you are able.

 

It might sound crazy but you are actually LUCKY to have found such a nice forum to pursue your utterly asinine interest in stupid music, and as a fan of said music, you are LUCKY, regardless of the specifics of your taste, that someone like Venetian Snares exists in the world. Against all the fucking odds in the universe!

 

That’s why I find the “boss” metaphor is truly painful. Only in the exact bullshit capitalist garbage universe that Snares was, in my mind, ranting against would two parties who otherwise share the same passions and struggle feel the need to joust over who was the “boss” of the other, or whose hardships are truly “valid” or not.

 

That’s garbage. That is not the nature of the relationship you actually have. Seriously, you guys are on an electronic music forum designed specifically for intense fucking nerdasses, and when one of the leading practitioners of the very art form you claim to treasure asks for help (not donations, by the way, simply that you consider purchasing some music today), your response is to suggest that he suck it up and sell his modular synthesizer? Do you realize how ridiculous that is?

 

Maybe you guys should go hang out on the fucking “responsible household budgeting” forums, I bet they’re a blast. Because this is a forum about MUSIC and how we like it and how we like artists who—again, when the entire world is out there basically fucking them over and telling them they should go to law school at night otherwise they’re gonna fucking die penniless—keep making insane shit with insane gear in the basement of their fucking houses anyway.

 

I wish I had the balls to stay at home and support myself making music all day. But I go to work with a REAL BOSS who is a total cunt and basically sit around listening to ‘Filth’ and being bored off my ass EVERY FUCKING DAY. However, I am “doing fine financially”. It’s… fine. Very safe choices.

 

Some people dare to make the less safe choices, and you should fucking check yourself before you pop into a thread and start questioning someone else’s choices when they are in trouble. Particularly when that other person, oh I dunno, has produced hours and hours of exceptional work at the highest level in their field. Jesus christ.

 

You are talking as if musicians were some kind of heroes doing stuff nobody wanted to do. Firefighters or something...

Man, what a ridiculous post.

  On 11/5/2015 at 11:03 PM, Jev said:

 

  On 8/27/2015 at 4:29 AM, Ascdi said:

 

  On 8/27/2015 at 3:50 AM, auxien said:

In a perhaps more realistic analog, on Monday Funk goes to his boss (his fans) and complains about how he thinks his boss is often shitty and he hates the hours he has to work and how he hates even having to work at all and how he'd leave in a heartbeat if he could, then on Tuesday goes to his boss and asks for a raise. That's essentially what's happened. To me, that's just the strangest thing, not that people do it, or that people go along with it, but that Funk himself has the balls or the blindness to do it. I guess in a 'have-to' situation, you bite the bullet and do what you've gotta do, but I just couldn't be that kind of person. He obviously can, or feels no choice and thus goes through with it.

 

Not picking on your post specifically, just responding to the general idea, mentioned by a few, embodied in the above paragraph.

 

Snares is your friend. You’re reading watmm; Snares makes fucking mental-ass electric music with a pace and intensity almost unmatched. You may not even personally like his music, but the fact that this board exists, that we read it, and Snares has a giant modular and uses it to inflict terror on grannies and unsuspecting rave bros alike means that we and he are one and the same tribe. People like that are people you should help if you are able.

 

It might sound crazy but you are actually LUCKY to have found such a nice forum to pursue your utterly asinine interest in stupid music, and as a fan of said music, you are LUCKY, regardless of the specifics of your taste, that someone like Venetian Snares exists in the world. Against all the fucking odds in the universe!

 

That’s why I find the “boss” metaphor is truly painful. Only in the exact bullshit capitalist garbage universe that Snares was, in my mind, ranting against would two parties who otherwise share the same passions and struggle feel the need to joust over who was the “boss” of the other, or whose hardships are truly “valid” or not.

 

That’s garbage. That is not the nature of the relationship you actually have. Seriously, you guys are on an electronic music forum designed specifically for intense fucking nerdasses, and when one of the leading practitioners of the very art form you claim to treasure asks for help (not donations, by the way, simply that you consider purchasing some music today), your response is to suggest that he suck it up and sell his modular synthesizer? Do you realize how ridiculous that is?

 

Maybe you guys should go hang out on the fucking “responsible household budgeting” forums, I bet they’re a blast. Because this is a forum about MUSIC and how we like it and how we like artists who—again, when the entire world is out there basically fucking them over and telling them they should go to law school at night otherwise they’re gonna fucking die penniless—keep making insane shit with insane gear in the basement of their fucking houses anyway.

 

I wish I had the balls to stay at home and support myself making music all day. But I go to work with a REAL BOSS who is a total cunt and basically sit around listening to ‘Filth’ and being bored off my ass EVERY FUCKING DAY. However, I am “doing fine financially”. It’s… fine. Very safe choices.

 

Some people dare to make the less safe choices, and you should fucking check yourself before you pop into a thread and start questioning someone else’s choices when they are in trouble. Particularly when that other person, oh I dunno, has produced hours and hours of exceptional work at the highest level in their field. Jesus christ.

 

 

You are talking as if musicians were some kind of heroes doing stuff nobody wanted to do. Firefighters or something...

 

Man, what a ridiculous post.

 

That was two months ago, jev. We've moved on from this now. Keep up.

haha.

  On 11/5/2015 at 10:34 PM, Jev said:

 

  On 8/26/2015 at 10:12 PM, o00o said:

 

  On 8/26/2015 at 9:59 PM, Dean Carbin said:

 

  On 8/26/2015 at 9:15 PM, o00o said:

yeah a person with a truck sized modular doesn't have real financial problems. It shows how much disconnected to reality he and everybody supporting this is.

Case closed, Lieutenant Columbo.

 

 

 

I see a lot of money in this picture

 

 

I wanted to point this out but I don't know if he bought it, rented it or was sponsored.

 

If he bought it, then yeah, there is a shitload of money. And it is not really necessary gear too.

 

 

he's had the modular stuff for years.. built up slowly. his friend actually custom built a lot of the larger format modules for him and i think he DIY'd a lot of stuff too. He could've sold off _all_ of his gear and just kept a laptop and a pair of headphones and it wouldn't have been enough to fix the situation.

anyway.. afaik he managed to not be made homeless and has gotten things turned around and has kept his head above water so to speak. but w/o the help of friends and fans he'd have sunk.

full disclosure i work at the MuffWiggler synth store in portland and put together the raffl.. er... "membership drive" to help him out.

+1 on Cubist Reggae. that album slays.

  On 8/28/2015 at 5:00 AM, Ascdi said:

By the way, I work right next door to the Spotify offices and have gazed in through their ground floor windows numerous times. You would not believe the perks those fascist fuckers have

What? So this is your background for your thoughts?

  On 11/5/2015 at 11:25 PM, ignatius said:

 

  On 11/5/2015 at 10:34 PM, Jev said:

 

  On 8/26/2015 at 10:12 PM, o00o said:

 

  On 8/26/2015 at 9:59 PM, Dean Carbin said:

 

  On 8/26/2015 at 9:15 PM, o00o said:

yeah a person with a truck sized modular doesn't have real financial problems. It shows how much disconnected to reality he and everybody supporting this is.

Case closed, Lieutenant Columbo.

 

 

 

I see a lot of money in this picture

 

 

I wanted to point this out but I don't know if he bought it, rented it or was sponsored.

 

If he bought it, then yeah, there is a shitload of money. And it is not really necessary gear too.

 

 

 

he's had the modular stuff for years.. built up slowly. his friend actually custom built a lot of the larger format modules for him and i think he DIY'd a lot of stuff too. He could've sold off _all_ of his gear and just kept a laptop and a pair of headphones and it wouldn't have been enough to fix the situation.

 

anyway.. afaik he managed to not be made homeless and has gotten things turned around and has kept his head above water so to speak. but w/o the help of friends and fans he'd have sunk.

 

full disclosure i work at the MuffWiggler synth store in portland and put together the raffl.. er... "membership drive" to help him out.

 

+1 on Cubist Reggae. that album slays.

 

Selling his gear wouldn't be enough? Man, what kind of situation was he put through?

  On 11/5/2015 at 11:30 PM, Jev said:

 

  On 8/28/2015 at 5:00 AM, Ascdi said:

By the way, I work right next door to the Spotify offices and have gazed in through their ground floor windows numerous times. You would not believe the perks those fascist fuckers have

 

What? So this is your background for your thoughts?

 

Hi Jev

How are you

  On 11/10/2015 at 3:39 AM, Ascdi said:

 

  On 11/5/2015 at 11:30 PM, Jev said:

 

  On 8/28/2015 at 5:00 AM, Ascdi said:

By the way, I work right next door to the Spotify offices and have gazed in through their ground floor windows numerous times. You would not believe the perks those fascist fuckers have

 

What? So this is your background for your thoughts?

 

 

Hi Jev

 

How are you

 

Hi Ascdi, I am fine. Thanks. You?

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