Making of Geogaddi

  On 10/15/2015 at 2:44 PM, Chesney said:

Could be MPC secretly in that case.

Not an mpc cause it's not big enough but that is either where the sequencer is or some video mixer or something

I edited my post. Could be for a 2000xl, would be tight. Def not a 60.

Edit: yeah you're probably right with other dimensions, I was too fixated on the case depth.

I think I remember reading something saying they used an MPC? An old interview on twoism or something?

It would make sense given that other gear. But that case does look small like miim said.

yamaha RS7000 too big as well, SU700 is quite hefty depth wise too.

So, do i understand this correctly? They basically play loops / samples they produced with some akai samplers. The samples are preprocessed by putting them through worn out tape. Interessting.

Not all elements/mixes will be put to tape, especially not worn out tape. But I bet there is some toing and froing to various tape scenarios in the studio. Like with anything, I doubt there will be a routine, they'll just go with whatever the sound needs.

  On 10/15/2015 at 3:29 PM, Chesney said:

I doubt there will be a routine, they'll just go with whatever the sound needs.

That's for sure.

I was just asking myself if their warm sound is produced by putting some of their samples through tape, overdriving the input on the tape recorder slightly. I heard something like that from a mastering engineer. Could be they used the same technique.

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We have five or six samplers, but my favorite by far is still the Akai S1000. It's an old tank now, and the screen has faded so that I almost can't read it, but I know it inside out. It's the most spontaneous thing for making up little tunes. It adds something to the sound — maybe the lower bit depth has something to do with that.

http://bocpages.org/wiki/Equipment#Akai

Yeah I think so, why I mentioned it earlier but couldn't be bothered to google the rear panel. miim got it though.

I bet they have a few. The 950 and 1000 have a specific sound and the 3000 for better specs for live.

As for "warm" That's kind of a redundant buzz word. You can record warmly all digital. Some of the most lovely round warm sounds I have in tunes are just as likely digi synth/drums processed in various ways, mainly digitally.

Of course, tape can give you a warm sound but it's mainly gluing the sound, filling up the gaps, taking off top end and muddying bottom.

(urgh muddy bottom)

I love tape for this.

Edit: There you go ha ^^^

  On 10/15/2015 at 3:42 PM, Mesh Gear Fox said:

i heard they were using logic even for their first one (MHTRTC). i dunno if they were recording audio to it or just using it to sequence things. didn't boc have an akai s1000 sampler too?

Id be interested to find this source

record to tape and saturate everything = lush warmness

  On 10/15/2015 at 3:51 PM, miim said:

 

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We have five or six samplers, but my favorite by far is still the Akai S1000. It's an old tank now, and the screen has faded so that I almost can't read it, but I know it inside out. It's the most spontaneous thing for making up little tunes. It adds something to the sound — maybe the lower bit depth has something to do with that.

http://bocpages.org/wiki/Equipment#Akai

 

  On 10/15/2015 at 3:55 PM, miim said:

 

  On 10/15/2015 at 3:42 PM, Mesh Gear Fox said:

i heard they were using logic even for their first one (MHTRTC). i dunno if they were recording audio to it or just using it to sequence things. didn't boc have an akai s1000 sampler too?

Id be interested to find this source

record to tape and saturate everything = lush warmness

 

Yeah bocpages is a good source. Somewhere they mentioned a "secret weapon" and people have speculated it's a MPC.

For Tomorrow's Harvest they mentioned using a VHS recorder to create a very specific sound on one track, manipulating a field recording of road noises or something.

They also have mentioned using very old vintage tape recorders from the late 50s and 60s, the kind that were not compact cassette nor stereo reel to reel but entry level Dictaphone stuff for novelty use (or spying in some cases). They mentioned Grundig specifically but any of the 100s of brands from that era will acheive the same shallow, old time-y radio effect and/or wow and flutter (if it's in really bad shape).

You can find them on ebay for cheap sometimes. I have a slightly different version of this.(

As mentioned before, their sound modeling is very layered and multi-faceted. We're talking old tape to lo-bit samplers to yet more tape, other analog sequencers, etc. It's def unpredictable.

Ah... so that's it. They working kinda very oldskool for the basic sketches with a Tascam multitrack recorder and some very old revoxx and grundig tape recorders.

Lol @ those grundig recorders.

http://www.reelprosoundguys.com/images/1961_GRUNDIG_TK1_Luxus.jpg

I want one. Now!

The Grundig will have been something with the Magic Eye that lights up when peaking.

I'm still not convinced they would be using logic for sequencing ..

I might have to send them a postcard

I wouldn't get too excited. They are not going to sprinkle your tunes with gold... regarding Grundig TK.

It's a fun exercise and certainly gives a lofi sound. I sometimes use a telefunken 200 for this and it's really fun for the process, which is as much important as the sound, otherwise you could do similar (not same) other, easier ways.

  On 10/15/2015 at 2:53 PM, QQQ said:

I think I remember reading something saying they used an MPC? An old interview on twoism or something?

Yup you're right MPC 2000 it's in the debug magazine from 2000.

I can sleep now :)

at the time of geogaddi i think their setup is more basic that everyone thinks...theyre just really good at making samples and have wicked ideas

  On 10/16/2015 at 4:55 PM, miim said:

at the time of geogaddi i think their setup is more basic that everyone thinks...theyre just really good at making samples and have wicked ideas

I agree on that.

Exactly. No real "secret weapon" to their music, it's the people rather than the gear. *states obvious*

Definitely. Most of BOC's sound comes from the processing of samples, which we know often comes/came from lo-fi (and presumably cheap, at least at the time) gear. They are just master arrangers and sound manipulators.

I always thought the 'secret weapon' was their Roland sh101 - which you can get a free VST/AU emulator of, TAL Bassline. Pretty sure they used Logic to arrange too, because I accidentally recreated the falling pitch delayed birds chirping with Delay Designer.

yo guys i just put this album on and while clicking it in itunes realised that for all these years i've been reading the title wrong, i thought it was called geodaddi not geogaddi

fuck

  On 10/17/2015 at 8:26 AM, westhead said:

I always thought the 'secret weapon' was their Roland sh101 - which you can get a free VST/AU emulator of, TAL Bassline. Pretty sure they used Logic to arrange too, because I accidentally recreated the falling pitch delayed birds chirping with Delay Designer.

ah, maybe that was it. its the lead bassline in roygbiv after all

Oh I was convinced the Roygbiv bassline was from a Moog. I mean the starting preset of Arturia's minimoog sounds "almost" exactly like it.

  On 11/7/2015 at 1:58 AM, Perezvon said:

Oh I was convinced the Roygbiv bassline was from a Moog. I mean the starting preset of Arturia's minimoog sounds "almost" exactly like it.

maybe im wrong

i know thesh101 was the lead off some of RDJs stuff like polynomial-c, theres a vid of people recreating that track