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Conversation overheard at work related to what colours of people were to be sent back home now that we have left the EU. Every colour but white seemed to be the consensus between the brain trust having the conversation.

 

Welp.

  On 6/25/2016 at 12:15 AM, Bechuga said:

Conversation overheard at work related to what colours of people were to be sent back home now that we have left the EU. Every colour but white seemed to be the consensus between the brain trust having the conversation.

 

Welp.

Ouch. Where do you work?

  On 6/25/2016 at 12:26 AM, fletcher said:

 

  On 6/25/2016 at 12:15 AM, Bechuga said:

Conversation overheard at work related to what colours of people were to be sent back home now that we have left the EU. Every colour but white seemed to be the consensus between the brain trust having the conversation.

 

Welp.

Ouch. Where do you work?

 

 

Hell.

 

Or to the common man, Toolbank, a tool supplier. Of course, the bigots in question are of a minority (the IRONY) in terms of their opinions in relation to racist views. But still, to overhear it...

if £250billion gets pumped into whateverthefuck, thats a chunk of change

 

add the billions from 2 obscene wars, def time to think seriously about Dublin

I say we start a whole new chutney

lol

 

https://twitter.com/FluorescentGrey/status/746411388562636800

  On 6/25/2016 at 12:31 AM, Bechuga said:

 

  On 6/25/2016 at 12:26 AM, fletcher said:

 

  On 6/25/2016 at 12:15 AM, Bechuga said:

Conversation overheard at work related to what colours of people were to be sent back home now that we have left the EU. Every colour but white seemed to be the consensus between the brain trust having the conversation.

 

Welp.

Ouch. Where do you work?

 

 

Hell.

 

Or to the common man, Toolbank, a tool supplier. Of course, the bigots in question are of a minority (the IRONY) in terms of their opinions in relation to racist views. But still, to overhear it...

 

 

It would be interesting to let them personally choose a family of colour to be deported out of the country. They would have to contact the family themselves and oversee the process of deportation. I am sure many of so called "bigots" would behave differently than when they are joking about it between friends. In other words, I wouldn't take their conversation too seriously. It is mostly the masses of people doing the worst stuff (in scale and quantity) imaginable, not individuals imo.

 

For example, in some eastern European countries racist jokes are still quite common but they are not taken too seriously (can't comment on Russia though). They are considered to be something like dirty jokes or black humour yet in practice people would behave nicely to individuals of different races. It also depends strongly on which race is the joke about. Jokes about Asians seem to be the least controversial as Asians (mostly Vietnamese) are generally well accepted and appreciated in the society so everybody knows it is a joke. And it feels more like a cultural jokes rather than racist jokes - more about their behaviour and traditions rather than their looks.

 

Actually now that I think of it, I can't really remember a racist joke, because I haven't heard a joke about physical properties of races in a long time (apart from somebody doing Asian-like eyes or something). People tend to interchange race for culture or society quite often. I often hear somebody saying "That is racist!" when they actually mean "intolerant" or "xenophobic".

 

I think some of the western societies became overly sensitive to the topic of racism and multiculturalism and are triggered too easily. On the other hand, those countries (I am talking about eastern Europe now) have never had black slaves or colonies so the context is quite different to USA or France.

 

TL:DR, just another freestyle train of thoughts. Feel free to skip.

Edited June 25, 2016 by WNS000

I would say that the racist jokes are taken seriously enough by the people whom are the targets of said jokes.

To the group making the jokes about the race in question, of course it's just friendly, not serious joking: because it's not them being offended. I bet the Eastern Europeans wouldn't take too kindly to a racist joke in return.

 

Also, there were no jokes in my coworkers' discussion. It was simply about 'can we get rid of the blacks and pakis now'.

They were very clearly being racist and xenophobic. And not funny. They were like it before the EU vote, so whatever.

 

People here say plenty of racist jokes but then act friendly towards Asian drivers turning up, or warn people about a 'black man in the building here to rob us' before shaking the black man's hand and asking how he's doing.

I see this as being two-faced rather than being polite personally.

 

Maybe I should really think about quitting my racist company lol

Edited June 25, 2016 by Bechuga

  On 6/25/2016 at 2:00 AM, Bechuga said:

I would say that the racist jokes are taken seriously enough by the people whom are the targets of said jokes.

To the group making the jokes about the race in question, of course it's just friendly, not serious joking: because it's not them being offended. I bet the Eastern Europeans wouldn't take too kindly to a racist joke in return.

 

Also, there were no jokes in my coworkers' discussion. It was simply about 'can we get rid of the blacks and pakis now'.

They were very clearly being racist and xenophobic. And not funny. They were like it before the EU vote, so whatever.

 

People here say plenty of racist jokes but then act friendly towards Asian drivers turning up, or warn people about a 'black man in the building here to rob us' before shaking the black man's hand and asking how he's doing.

I see this as being two-faced rather than being polite personally.

 

Maybe I should really think about quitting my racist company lol

 

I understand (I am a target of jokes on WATMM all the time, lol).

 

Well, I am not sure what they meant by "get rid of" because I am pretty sure UK laws aren't in the state of deporting anybody legally living in the country. So I am not really sure what they are talking about. Maybe they are not really informed what laws their country have even without EU?

 

The two-faced vs being polite probably strongly depends on each individual's personality imo.

 

EDIT:

 

I cannot imagine a racist joke about Eastern Europeans or white race at all though. Not sure what would the jokes be about.

Edited June 25, 2016 by WNS000

  On 6/24/2016 at 11:49 PM, cwmbrancity said:

not until yous lots replace mashed potatoes with roast spuds at dinner

 

that morass of ming served up at various meals (with coleslaw, always fuckin coleslaw) needs a swapsy

 

theres room to negotiate, lets meet @ Atlantis and bring all your best weed too, please

 

Gladly. We've got lobster and poutine to offer in exchange.

  On 6/25/2016 at 2:12 AM, WNS000 said:

 

  On 6/25/2016 at 2:00 AM, Bechuga said:

I would say that the racist jokes are taken seriously enough by the people whom are the targets of said jokes.

To the group making the jokes about the race in question, of course it's just friendly, not serious joking: because it's not them being offended. I bet the Eastern Europeans wouldn't take too kindly to a racist joke in return.

 

Also, there were no jokes in my coworkers' discussion. It was simply about 'can we get rid of the blacks and pakis now'.

They were very clearly being racist and xenophobic. And not funny. They were like it before the EU vote, so whatever.

 

People here say plenty of racist jokes but then act friendly towards Asian drivers turning up, or warn people about a 'black man in the building here to rob us' before shaking the black man's hand and asking how he's doing.

I see this as being two-faced rather than being polite personally.

 

Maybe I should really think about quitting my racist company lol

 

I understand (I am a target of jokes on WATMM all the time, lol).

 

Well, I am not sure what they meant by "get rid of" because I am pretty sure UK laws aren't in the state of deporting anybody legally living in the country. So I am not really sure what they are talking about. Maybe they are not really informed what laws their country have even without EU?

 

The two-faced vs being polite probably strongly depends on each individual's personality imo.

 

EDIT:

 

I cannot imagine a racist joke about Eastern Europeans or white race at all though. Not sure what would the jokes be about.

 

They're not really informed of anything, laws or otherwise: common sense, common decency, literacy, societal norms...

I know The New Yorker is a trip to groanzone but this cover got a proper lol from me

 

 

 

Edited June 25, 2016 by ThatSpanishGuy

Perfect

lol. love it.

is this graphic in this thread already?

 

people love to vote against their own interests. happens here in USA all the damn time.

 

  On 6/24/2016 at 8:45 PM, Braintree said:

 

  On 6/24/2016 at 8:40 PM, Schlitze said:

Dont know what that post was. Sounded really cool though. Maybe it was a reference to the Texan who was posting here 8 hours ago as if he was master of ceremonies. He had an opinion on everything. His keyboard was on fire.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_secession_movements

The secession movenent is just drunk redneck uncle talk and right-wing fantasy jerkoff material that Rick Perry brought up again in 2009. Texas was its own country because the US rejected its annexation request in 1836. Texas had way too much debt, so much so the vast majority of its assets used to pay it off were in land holdings.

 

It was never intended to be independent, in fact the Texan independent movement was born out of Mexico refusing to let white american and european immigrants become Mexican citizens, even after they promised a path to do so if they worked the land, learned Spanish, and observed Catholicism. I shit you not, you can't make up something that ironic.

 

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Sorry if i grandstanded too much' i post in bursts and I follow this because despite being american i lived in the UK and have a close English friend here in Texas as well who is following it closely.

 

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I almost feel out of bed reading that.

  On 6/25/2016 at 3:20 AM, ignatius said:

is this graphic in this thread already?

 

people love to vote against their own interests. happens here in USA all the damn time.

 

Interesting, but I do wonder how that graph looks when the y-axis starts at 0. Starting at 25 makes the 'relationship' appear more relevant than it might actually be.

Kind of amused by this article about the EU trying to speed up the Brexit process: http://uk.businessinsider.com/eu-officials-uk-must-start-process-to-leave-the-bloc-as-soon-as-possible-2016-6

 

Thing which amuses me the most is you can kinda read into it how ignorant the average media-outlets are reporting what is currently happening in the EU. Most of the articles I've read are about various populist parties from around the EU saying they want a referendum for leaving the EU as well. Rather sooner than later. Hastily concluding the EU is on the brinck of collapsing.

 

But if you think about it, the opposite might be possible. And even more likely. As the EU members can now finally witness what it means to leave the EU. If it will be the economic disaster (especially for the leaving eu member) many think it will be, than the union might become stronger, instead of weaker.

 

And the EU-leadership (read: the sitting leaders of the eu members) seem to agree. It's like they're saying: Lets speed up the exit process and show to the remaining eu-members why it's not a good idea to follow britains example.

 

The irony seems to be that the pro-brexit parties in the former UK don't have any haste in the exit process. I wouldn't be surprised if they are going to propose something like a period -5 years or more- where they still want influence in EU decisionmaking. ( because eu decisions have impact on the former uk)

Guys, I'd like to apologize for my totally assholish and ignorant posts about the Brexit. I was wrong about the whole thing. I really hope that you guys will be alright because of everything that's going on.

Not to dig at you, but I think the Brits here would be more interested in an apology from all the people who voted for a leave.

 

In the best case, the outcome is just Cameron leaving and a wide open door (with an extra long red carpet) for more populist nonsense in UK politics. Essentially, you might see the referendum as an anti-establishment/pro-populist thing. And the populists have won.

 

And that would be the very best outcome (ie. no economic impact, no lost opportunities for younger generations).

 

I'm all for democracy, but this referendum-thing doesn't seem to be helpful, if you ask me. Single-issue 'democracy' seems like a naive dream at this point.

  On 6/25/2016 at 9:51 AM, clarktrent said:

Guys, I'd like to apologize for my totally assholish and ignorant posts about the Brexit. I was wrong about the whole thing. I really hope that you guys will be alright because of everything that's going on.

 

 

 

Some interesting pieces on fact-checking the two camps in the Brexit thing:

https://medium.com/im-trying-to-fact-check-brexit/fact-checking-brexit-the-conclusion-c1f56ba4cb70#.uo2g33258

 

Leave-supporters wont like this one

 

And the question about the extent the EU is more undemocratic than the UK:

https://medium.com/im-trying-to-fact-check-brexit/fact-check-is-the-eu-undemocratic-70bed70af7da#.3u6zggvxh

 

Leave-supporters won't like this one either, but to a lesser extent than the first ;-)

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