Something AE_STORE is happening

  On 5/16/2016 at 10:15 PM, triachus said:

 

  On 5/16/2016 at 10:12 PM, Joseph said:

 

  On 5/16/2016 at 8:47 PM, psn said:

 

  On 5/16/2016 at 4:47 PM, Joyrex said:

I have never heard of a single track referred to as a record

Really, never? A "record" has been the radio lingo for a "song" since the 1950s, at the very least. Ie since before the advent of the album, when "record" took on the additional meaning of a collection of songs/tracks.

 

The meaning/usage of words varies with time and place.

 

no it doesn't

 

of course it does. what do they smoke in the UK? fags.. if you smoked a fag in the USA it'd mean something very different. also, faggot is still known as a bundle of sticks/wood in some places.. as in gather a faggot for the fire.. which again.. would mean something very different in the USA.. but maybe you're just being sarcastic and i took the bait. shrug.

  On 5/16/2016 at 8:33 PM, Bechuga said:

I dunno, people also refer to music as jam. If they can refer to music as a type of fruit preserve then why not a record?

or.. wax.

  On 5/16/2016 at 10:51 PM, psn said:

 

  On 5/16/2016 at 10:12 PM, Joseph said:

 

  On 5/16/2016 at 8:47 PM, psn said:

 

  On 5/16/2016 at 4:47 PM, Joyrex said:

I have never heard of a single track referred to as a record

 

 

Really, never? A "record" has been the radio lingo for a "song" since the 1950s, at the very least. Ie since before the advent of the album, when "record" took on the additional meaning of a collection of songs/tracks.

 

The meaning/usage of words varies with time and place.

 

 

Time: mid 1900s to now.

Place: English speaking countries.

 

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/record

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/record

 

Even within 50 years, the meaning of a word can vary in a fixed place.

Example: in America, 50 years ago "cell" would never have referred to a phone, but now it can.

And even among all English-speaking countries (let alone within a given English-speaking country), the meaning of a word can vary at a fixed time.

Example: provided by ignatius above.

Lol, are you saying Joyrex is wrong in the sentence you quote, where he speaks for himself only?

Very interesting tangent, pleas carry on

  On 5/17/2016 at 12:02 AM, Joseph said:

 

 

Lol, are you saying Joyrex is wrong in the sentence you quote, where he speaks for himself only?

 

No. I'm just pointing out it's funny how you Southerners are being schooled in your mother tongue by non native speakers from fricking Europe.

  On 5/17/2016 at 12:20 AM, psn said:

 

  On 5/17/2016 at 12:02 AM, Joseph said:

 

 

Lol, are you saying Joyrex is wrong in the sentence you quote, where he speaks for himself only?

 

 

No. I'm just pointing out it's funny how you Southerners are being schooled in your mother tongue by non native speakers from fricking Europe.

 

 

I'd wager that if you talked to most "Southerners", they'd agree with me that, in their neck of the woods at least, the word "record" cannot be used in place of the words "track" or "song".

This demonstrates the fact that the meaning/usage of words varies with time and place, so which usages of a word are correct or incorrect also depends in part on the time and place. It is misleading to refer, as you do, to the English language (our "mother tongue") in such an absolute way, obscuring this fact.

the Great Autechre Linguistic Riots of 2016. New album or we revolt, come on

A circular slab if vinyl with a sound recording on it is a record, even if it's not following the traditional hour long album format. It can have a single second of fart on it, it's still a record.

Southerners, South westerners and Texans. There's levels to this shit.

  On 5/17/2016 at 12:44 AM, Joseph said:

This demonstrates the fact that the meaning/usage of words varies with time and place

 

Exactly, that's my argument. If you know that sometimes record means album, and other times it means song, then you're better equipped to communicate than someone who stubbornly insists that the word has only one of those meanings.

Anyway, the BBC DJ in question used "record" interchangeably with "file" and "track". Not with "album", "CD" or "LP".

In other words, we may, or may not, see a physical and/or digital release of an album, ep and/or single containing feed1.

  On 5/17/2016 at 12:57 AM, Zeffolia said:

A circular slab if vinyl with a sound recording on it is a record, even if it's not following the traditional hour long album format. It can have a single second of fart on it, it's still a record.

  On 5/17/2016 at 12:02 AM, Joseph said:

 

  On 5/16/2016 at 10:51 PM, psn said:

 

  On 5/16/2016 at 10:12 PM, Joseph said:

 

  On 5/16/2016 at 8:47 PM, psn said:

 

  On 5/16/2016 at 4:47 PM, Joyrex said:

I have never heard of a single track referred to as a record

 

 

Really, never? A "record" has been the radio lingo for a "song" since the 1950s, at the very least. Ie since before the advent of the album, when "record" took on the additional meaning of a collection of songs/tracks.

 

The meaning/usage of words varies with time and place.

 

 

Time: mid 1900s to now.

Place: English speaking countries.

 

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/record

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/record

 

Even within 50 years, the meaning of a word can vary in a fixed place.

 

Example: in America, 50 years ago "cell" would never have referred to a phone, but now it can.

 

And even among all English-speaking countries (let alone within a given English-speaking country), the meaning of a word can vary at a fixed time.

 

Example: provided by ignatius above.

 

Lol, are you saying Joyrex is wrong in the sentence you quote, where he speaks for himself only?

 

  On 5/17/2016 at 12:17 AM, Blank said:

i got an A for my GCSE english if that helps

  On 5/17/2016 at 12:20 AM, psn said:

 

  On 5/17/2016 at 12:02 AM, Joseph said:

 

 

Lol, are you saying Joyrex is wrong in the sentence you quote, where he speaks for himself only?

 

 

No. I'm just pointing out it's funny how you Southerners are being schooled in your mother tongue by non native speakers from fricking Europe.

 

 

  On 5/17/2016 at 12:44 AM, Joseph said:

 

  On 5/17/2016 at 12:20 AM, psn said:

 

  On 5/17/2016 at 12:02 AM, Joseph said:

 

 

Lol, are you saying Joyrex is wrong in the sentence you quote, where he speaks for himself only?

 

 

No. I'm just pointing out it's funny how you Southerners are being schooled in your mother tongue by non native speakers from fricking Europe.

 

 

I'd wager that if you talked to most "Southerners", they'd agree with me that, in their neck of the woods at least, the word "record" cannot be used in place of the words "track" or "song".

 

This demonstrates the fact that the meaning/usage of words varies with time and place, so which usages of a word are correct or incorrect also depends in part on the time and place. It is misleading to refer, as you do, to the English language (our "mother tongue") in such an absolute way, obscuring this fact.

 

  On 5/17/2016 at 12:57 AM, Zeffolia said:

A circular slab if vinyl with a sound recording on it is a record, even if it's not following the traditional hour long album format. It can have a single second of fart on it, it's still a record.

Well, I say!

I'm sure Ricky and Chris Autechre have a great time reading all this nonsense when they tease a new record.

  On 5/17/2016 at 12:48 AM, ThatSpanishGuy said:

the Great Autechre Linguistic Riots of 2016. New album or we revolt, come on

we'll revolt anyways.

ae is your new album an record or an digital vinyl

is weird there is still no announcement on what the "Record" is... The above was interesting though for lolz

Just to chip in do we all agree the below are Autechre records? ;) if so why the fuck would record necessarily mean an album??

I'm pretty sure he's just talking about the track, please calm down. I'm fully expecting a new album by fall though, the hype machine is firing on all cylinders.

  On 5/16/2016 at 8:47 PM, psn said:

 

  On 5/16/2016 at 4:47 PM, Joyrex said:

I have never heard of a single track referred to as a record

 

 

Really, never? A "record" has been the radio lingo for a "song" since the 1950s, at the very least. Ie since before the advent of the album, when "record" took on the additional meaning of a collection of songs/tracks.

 

No, sorry - I have never heard a radio DJ refer to a single song as a "record". I've always heard it referred to as "the new [single/song/track/jam] by [insert artist name here]" or "Here's [trackname] from [artist] off [his/her] new [album/record/release/single/EP/LP]."

While the term record is shorthand for "recording", record (to me) has always referred to a physical object (e.g.: "hand me that vinyl record"), or as a collective term for an album (e.g.: "Autechre's new record, 'whythefuckarewedebatingthis' is out August 12th, 2016").

lol

sent using magic space waves

lol

  On 5/17/2016 at 2:06 PM, Gocab said:

I'm fully expecting a new album by fall

I think you'll find you mean autumn.

Oh shit. Yes.

  On 5/17/2016 at 5:10 PM, Joyrex said:

 

  On 5/16/2016 at 8:47 PM, psn said:

 

  On 5/16/2016 at 4:47 PM, Joyrex said:

I have never heard of a single track referred to as a record

 

Really, never? A "record" has been the radio lingo for a "song" since the 1950s, at the very least. Ie since before the advent of the album, when "record" took on the additional meaning of a collection of songs/tracks.

No, sorry - I have never heard a radio DJ refer to a single song as a "record". I've always heard it referred to as "the new [single/song/track/jam] by [insert artist name here]" or "Here's [trackname] from [artist] off [his/her] new [album/record/release/single/EP/LP]."

 

While the term record is shorthand for "recording", record (to me) has always referred to a physical object (e.g.: "hand me that vinyl record"), or as a collective term for an album (e.g.: "Autechre's new record, 'whythefuckarewedebatingthis' is out August 12th, 2016").

But by your logic there single could be one song yes? So a record could in theory be a release with just one song on!

Anyhow we are all well over thinking this but is passing the time until something gets announced! :)

E.g hand me that record (that happens to have one track on! )