Autechre production methods speculation

I reckon I did read in some interview once how they used way more sampling than most people believe (as they think it's all generated with complex algorithms and whatnot)

^I think a lot of their odd musical phrases and rhythms come from sampled and processed speech.

http://thequietus.com/articles/13899-autechre-interview-exai-l-event

 

Rob states in the interview above that M39 Diffain contains field recordings of rain.

Apologies if I already said so in here but I'd like to throw my name in as another person who finds a lot of the ideas in this thread truly insightful and what this forum's all about

i hear they use max sometimes

I heard something about farting. Is it true?

they just use cats

  On 7/17/2018 at 9:35 AM, hello spiral said:

^I think a lot of their odd musical phrases and rhythms come from sampled and processed speech.

Makes me think about pitch preservation algorithms in certain DAW's, and how you can get really grainy or percussive sounds from recorded audio depending on the choice

i'm not privy to any inside info, but based on their interviews i would bet autechre’s current rig is something very similar to this:

https://ppooll.klingt.org/index.php?title=Main_Page



it is a modular system built in Max. super powerful & flexible. tons of modules exist for it:

https://ppooll.klingt.org/index.php?title=manual



every module you load is instantly aware of all other loaded modules and can send/receive audio & control data to/from them. you don't need to physically connect anything in Max with patch cords. it's all 'wireless' so to speak.
 and of course since this is Max you can go in and alter the modules if you want or create your own from scratch. but it is also totally possible to use this system even if you are a complete Max noob as everything is already programmed.


best part is you can save everything as a preset. once you get a collection of modules loaded up & interconnected how you like, store a preset in the main host module & it will be able to recall everything, even where you placed each module on your screen. the individual modules can store their own presets as well.


i used to use this a lot back in the day and found it very powerful & quick to work with once you understood the basics and how the interface is organized. not as slick as something like Reaktor but more tweakable, extensible, and it’s also free.




 

Edited October 18, 2018 by digit

I remember lloopp/ppooll - Never managed to do anything with it mind. IIRC this was Fennesz's setup:

 

  On 10/18/2018 at 5:43 PM, digit said:

i'm not privy to any inside info, but based on their interviews i would bet autechre’s current rig is something very similar to this:


https://ppooll.klingt.org/index.php?title=Main_Page





it is a modular system built in Max. super powerful & flexible. tons of modules exist for it:


https://ppooll.klingt.org/index.php?title=manual





every module you load is instantly aware of all other loaded modules and can send/receive audio & control data to/from them. you don't need to physically connect anything in Max with patch cords. it's all 'wireless' so to speak.
 and of course since this is Max you can go in and alter the modules if you want or create your own from scratch. but it is also totally possible to use this system even if you are a complete Max noob as everything is already programmed.


best part is you can save everything as a preset. once you get a collection of modules loaded up & interconnected how you like, store a preset in the main host module & it will be able to recall everything, even where you placed each module on your screen. the individual modules can store their own presets as well.


i used to use this a lot back in the day and found it very powerful & quick to work with once you understood the basics and how the interface is organized. not as slick as something like Reaktor but more tweakable, extensible, and it’s also free.







 

 

 wow this is gold. phenx!

ae-relevent bit starts @ 01:09:24

 

https://youtu.be/_rimBxaK8jk?t=1h9m24s

  On 10/19/2018 at 4:47 PM, AnwarAutokino said:

ae-relevent bit starts @ 01:09:24

 

https://youtu.be/_rimBxaK8jk?t=1h9m24s

 

 isnt that futureimage?

  On 10/18/2018 at 5:43 PM, digit said:

i'm not privy to any inside info, but based on their interviews i would bet autechre’s current rig is something very similar to this:


https://ppooll.klingt.org/index.php?title=Main_Page





it is a modular system built in Max. super powerful & flexible. tons of modules exist for it:


https://ppooll.klingt.org/index.php?title=manual





every module you load is instantly aware of all other loaded modules and can send/receive audio & control data to/from them. you don't need to physically connect anything in Max with patch cords. it's all 'wireless' so to speak.
 and of course since this is Max you can go in and alter the modules if you want or create your own from scratch. but it is also totally possible to use this system even if you are a complete Max noob as everything is already programmed.


best part is you can save everything as a preset. once you get a collection of modules loaded up & interconnected how you like, store a preset in the main host module & it will be able to recall everything, even where you placed each module on your screen. the individual modules can store their own presets as well.


i used to use this a lot back in the day and found it very powerful & quick to work with once you understood the basics and how the interface is organized. not as slick as something like Reaktor but more tweakable, extensible, and it’s also free.







 

Ppooll is ace, easy to set up rigs for live stuff too. Initially steep learning curve (at least for non-programmers or coming only from DAW based work) but once you get a grip on the basics it's easy to experiment with.

 

Not great for beat based stuff but can be turned to it, just not a natural fit.

  On 10/19/2018 at 4:55 PM, xox said:

 

  On 10/19/2018 at 4:47 PM, AnwarAutokino said:

ae-relevent bit starts @ 01:09:24

 

https://youtu.be/_rimBxaK8jk?t=1h9m24s

 

 isnt that futureimage?

 

Aye, though that bit he's talking about Rem and Slan's techniques - You probably wanna move back a minute or so to 01:08:10 for a run up to the discussion

i've never felt as lonely as i did after watching 10 minutes of that video

  On 10/19/2018 at 11:16 PM, mcbpete said:

 

  On 10/19/2018 at 4:55 PM, xox said:

 

  On 10/19/2018 at 4:47 PM, AnwarAutokino said:

ae-relevent bit starts @ 01:09:24

 

https://youtu.be/_rimBxaK8jk?t=1h9m24s

 

 isnt that futureimage?

 

Aye, though that bit he's talking about Rem and Slan's techniques - You probably wanna move back a minute or so to 01:08:10 for a run up to the discussion

 

 

i totally disagree with him on ae and melodies... their biggest strength is in melodies and feelings. if you even take untilted as an opposite example you can hear melodies all over the place, every hit of a drum is tuned to everything else while creating tens of hidden small phrases and melodies per track

Edited October 20, 2018 by xox

There’s always melodies somewhere in ae tunes.

 

 

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  On 10/21/2018 at 12:22 AM, ignatius said:

There’s always melodies somewhere in ae tunes.

 

 

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and there's lots of melodies in their latest releases

I'd like to listen to more people try and break down Autechre. 

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/07494467.2016.1221630

Edited November 1, 2018 by Freak of the week

someone who has access pls dl that article and prime minister me

likewise... 

what manmower said

Edited November 1, 2018 by Freak of the week