Filipino Drug Addicts Being Killed in State Drug Crackdown

TBH, the US isn't going to do shit except for posture. But China isn't going to do anything ridiculous either. Both those countries depend on the trade flowing through there way too much for anything real to happen.

Duterte is still a fucknut though.

" He has revealed that he was one of the many students who was sexually abused by a priest from his previous school, Ateneo de Davao University (AdDU) during circa late 1950s.^[126] After he was challenged by the Catholic Bishops' Conference of the Philippines (CBCP) and AdDU officials to name the priest and file a case against him, Duterte then revealed the priest's name as Fr. Mark Falvey, SJ (d. 1975)"

That'd explain a lot.

Oh snap. A little Catholic schoolboy lovin goes a long way!

100%

Oh snap - Duterte just made shit real over there.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/09/14/asia-pacific/duterte-seeks-arms-china-may-end-maritime-patrols-u-s/#.V90l8rXFwUw

Oh shit China, waddup?

Fucking hell, that country is getting really scary. I know the meth problem is bad but simply killing and asking questions doesn't work. If anything it will give the drug dealers/gangs more power in the long-run. That's what happened in Mexico: cartels rule through power and fear, local and state governments folded to corruption, and the Feds are inconsistent in their effectiveness and trust.

  On 9/17/2016 at 1:16 PM, chenGOD said:

Oh snap - Duterte just made shit real over there.

 

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/09/14/asia-pacific/duterte-seeks-arms-china-may-end-maritime-patrols-u-s/#.V90l8rXFwUw

Yeah I heard earlier this week he was ending joint Philippines - US military training / asking advisers to leave. An expert I heard on BBC or PRI (I forget which, it was on public radio) wasn't thinking much of it at the time but I had no idea he was marking a public shift to aligning with China. IIRC it was more about de-escalating the tensions between Muslim extremists in the South.

I thought the Spartly Islands was one of the few things the US and Philipines were lockstep over - Filipino coast guard has tried arresting illegal fishing boats from China and assert their claim over certain islands for political and enviromental reasons...I guess Duerte doesn't really give a shit? 

  On 9/17/2016 at 6:41 AM, chenGOD said:

 

  On 9/17/2016 at 2:57 AM, LimpyLoo said:

Canada just fucking legalized heroin.

 

This is not true.

What is true is doctors are able to prescribe heroin to severe opioids addicts who have failed to recover from traditional treatment.

Yeah street use is not legal, big whoop. The whole point is that heroin addicts can now obtain and use heroin legally.

  On 9/17/2016 at 5:43 PM, LimpyLoo said:

 

  On 9/17/2016 at 6:41 AM, chenGOD said:

 

  On 9/17/2016 at 2:57 AM, LimpyLoo said:

Canada just fucking legalized heroin.

This is not true.

What is true is doctors are able to prescribe heroin to severe opioids addicts who have failed to recover from traditional treatment.

Yeah street use is not legal, big whoop. The whole point is that heroin addicts can now obtain and use heroin legally.

 

I think the prescribed opioid addicition problem is far worse than the heroin problem here(Northwestern Ontario)...

Tomato tomato

Prescription opioids thrive where heroin availability doesn't meet demand. If you go to buy shit and dude has O's for $1/mg or its equivalent in Heroin for 1/2 that price, then guess which one wins. Heroin always wins when it's available.

Opiate addicts are opiate addicts. We don't talk about beer addicts vs. vodka addicts vs. bourbon addicts

Did Canada go ahead and legalize pot for personal use?

  On 9/17/2016 at 6:41 PM, Rubin Farr said:

Did Canada go ahead and legalize pot for personal use?

apparently next year we will be hearing from our government(JT's neoliberal's) about the new law's set into place for personal use. 

  On 9/17/2016 at 6:11 PM, LimpyLoo said:

Tomato tomato

 

Prescription opioids thrive where heroin availability doesn't meet demand. If you go to buy shit and dude has O's for $1/mg or its equivalent in Heroin for 1/2 that price, then guess which one wins. Heroin always wins when it's available.

 

Opiate addicts are opiate addicts. We don't talk about beer addicts vs. vodka addicts vs. bourbon addicts

I see where you're coming from. but at the end of the day, any attack on ppl using or becoming addicts and not attempting to ACTUALLY solve the reason why ppl becom addicts(living circumstances and adolescent abuse) is ridiculous     

I agree, totally

Beyond the social libertarianist arguments for legalization (or de-criminalization)

we know how to stop OD's and HIV-transmission and all the inter- and intra-personal costs of addiction

Our drug laws are based on the Exposure Hypothesis of addiction (i.e. people get addicted to a drug because they were merely exposed to it)...and if someone believes this then of course they won't see legalization (i.e. increased "exposure") as a solution

But we now know that's not how it works

Addiction seems to be a psycho-social phenomenon, where people become dis-connected and "fall out of orbit" with the world, and medicate the resulting wound (so to speak)...this is why legalization works, because it puts them back in the flow of the world

Yep.  They're forced into the shadows when the substances they're addicted to are illegal, and by being in the shadows they become more disconnected from the world.  They have to hang around shady individuals who are legitimate criminals, drug dealers.  They have drug dealer friends, their other friends are also addicted.  

It's hard to be a normal person while simultaneously addicted to Heroin solely because of their illegality.  It isn't made easy, but it becomes a bit easier, when things like this are made legal for the purposes weening off them or getting the addiction under control.  Such a scam how drug addiction is treated as a criminal issue instead of a public health issue.

I hate meeting evil midgets in dark alleys for drugs...fuels the paranoia.

why people when given the opportunity turn into fucking savages wtf we are fucked up in the head looool only psychedelics and meditation can kill the savage inside you but then you become too weak, you can't be too weak in this world 

  On 9/18/2016 at 12:04 AM, Zeffolia said:

Yep.  They're forced into the shadows when the substances they're addicted to are illegal, and by being in the shadows they become more disconnected from the world.  They have to hang around shady individuals who are legitimate criminals, drug dealers.  They have drug dealer friends, their other friends are also addicted.  

 

It's hard to be a normal person while simultaneously addicted to Heroin solely because of their illegality.  It isn't made easy, but it becomes a bit easier, when things like this are made legal for the purposes weening off them or getting the addiction under control.  Such a scam how drug addiction is treated as a criminal issue instead of a public health issue.

Any other world problems needing sorting out? come to watmm

At least they're not killing people for illegally streaming game of thrones just yet.

i know a lot of air force guys married to filipino women. they never talk about this side of things

I get the impression that Duterte is opting for a more reclusive approach to foreign policy, not necessarily aligning with China against the US. That revelation about his childhood though, I'm sure he'd want to keep a lid on. Prime blackmail fodder for any political opponents he might have.

 Looking up the history of the Spratleys is quite interesting. It appears that both vietnam and china hold legitimate claims to the islands which predate western meddling. China was later apportioned the islands when both were occupied or controlled by western powers. More recently other nations have claimed parts of the chain of reefs and small islands. It's all very complicated. I'm glad that the Philippines is making moves to gently extricate themselves from US occupation. I haven't looked up what's going on politically in that country so can't really comment beyond that. It does bare the conjecture though that the chinese stationary carrier that they have built on Subi reef will be unnecessary, given the developments in the philippines with respect to the US military. They won't need that shield or forward projection of power ya know. We'll see though, they could yet be another one of those hegemonic players that the rest of have to cower around whilst we try to get on with getting on. They've already been colonially expanding into the antipodes with a vengeance.

  On 9/17/2016 at 5:43 PM, LimpyLoo said:

 

  On 9/17/2016 at 6:41 AM, chenGOD said:

 

  On 9/17/2016 at 2:57 AM, LimpyLoo said:

Canada just fucking legalized heroin.

 

This is not true.

What is true is doctors are able to prescribe heroin to severe opioids addicts who have failed to recover from traditional treatment.

Yeah street use is not legal, big whoop. The whole point is that heroin addicts can now obtain and use heroin legally.

It's not like they can just walk in to a clinic and be like, yo doc, hook me up. They'll still have to go through substantial treatment programs before this last resort.

Health Canada says this is suitable for a small group of users only.

Similar programs are in place in Germany and a couple of other countries whose names escape me at the moment.

all drug use is decriminalized in Portugal, including Heroin. before they did so they had one of the highest rates of Heroin use in Europe, it's halved now, and most of them are in replacement treatment programs. you still can't legally purchase it there though.

Yeah I think decriminalizing drug use is pretty much the way to go.

Also delet, if you think American global hegemony has been bad, just wait until you see what Chinese hegemony looks like.

  On 9/19/2016 at 1:55 AM, chenGOD said:

Yeah I think decriminalizing drug use is pretty much the way to go.

 

Also delet, if you think American global hegemony has been bad, just wait until you see what Chinese hegemony looks like.

 Yes, that was kind of my point.

 As for drugs, you should be able to do whatever you want with your own body (Well except strap bombs to it and walk into a shopping centre), but if that leaves you starving in the gutter, you take responsibility for your actions and i'm not paying for your body modification fetish. Also i take exception to that principle where reproduction is concerned. But i don't want to open that can of worms here, and no i'm not anti-abortion.