petina Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 On 10/6/2016 at 3:16 PM, D4M0 said: Drukqs repress, warp pls... gotta be that person here and say no ty, the original vinyl was pressed from cd quality source Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/91693-drukqs-parental-advisory-warning/page/2/#findComment-2488357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 On 10/6/2016 at 8:49 PM, petina said: On 10/6/2016 at 3:16 PM, D4M0 said: Drukqs repress, warp pls... gotta be that person here and say no ty, the original vinyl was pressed from cd quality source What? Where'd you get that? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Follow WATMM on Twitter: @WATMMOfficial Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/91693-drukqs-parental-advisory-warning/page/2/#findComment-2488360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
petina Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 (edited) On 10/6/2016 at 8:54 PM, Joyrex said: On 10/6/2016 at 8:49 PM, petina said: On 10/6/2016 at 3:16 PM, D4M0 said: Drukqs repress, warp pls... gotta be that person here and say no ty, the original vinyl was pressed from cd quality source What? Where'd you get that? *cracks knuckles, gets ready for everyone to groan at me for this even tho im just stating facts* Reveal hidden contents here's a pic of a section of a vinyl rip the frequencies cut off at ~22kHz, which is the same quality as a CD. the purple lines you see above 22.5 are artifacts from surface noise. this could imply it was pressed from a CD, or aphex only ever rendered the tracks at this quality (which would be understandable seeing as he made this album on a laptop in the late 90s, didn't he?) i'm not saying, like, don't buy the records or whatever. just know what you're getting Edited October 6, 2016 by petina Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/91693-drukqs-parental-advisory-warning/page/2/#findComment-2488363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 On 10/6/2016 at 9:01 PM, petina said: On 10/6/2016 at 8:54 PM, Joyrex said: On 10/6/2016 at 8:49 PM, petina said: On 10/6/2016 at 3:16 PM, D4M0 said: Drukqs repress, warp pls... gotta be that person here and say no ty, the original vinyl was pressed from cd quality source What? Where'd you get that? *cracks knuckles, gets ready for everyone to groan at me for this even tho im just stating facts* Reveal hidden contents here's a pic of a section of a vinyl rip the frequencies cut off at ~22kHz, which is the same quality as a CD. the purple lines you see above 22.5 are artifacts from surface noise. this could imply it was pressed from a CD, or aphex only ever rendered the tracks at this quality (which would be understandable seeing as he made this album on a laptop in the late 90s, didn't he?) i'm not saying, like, don't buy the records or whatever. just know what you're getting Interesting... I assume this is your own vinyl rip - would anything in your chain possibly contribute to it being capped at that? (also I thought CDs were 44.1 kHz?) As for "made on a laptop in the late 90's"... I am sure Richard used far more than just a laptop in the recording process. The amount of love and effort he put into DrukQs would lead me to think he wouldn't have capped the tracks at such a limit (and that he would know the difference). Or, perhaps like most people, he can't hear the difference anyway, so why bother? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Follow WATMM on Twitter: @WATMMOfficial Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/91693-drukqs-parental-advisory-warning/page/2/#findComment-2488370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psn Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 On 10/6/2016 at 9:12 PM, Joyrex said: also I thought CDs were 44.1 kHz?) Read up on the Nyquist theorem. :D Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/91693-drukqs-parental-advisory-warning/page/2/#findComment-2488410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted October 7, 2016 Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 ^ yup do any other albums go above 22.5khz on vinyl? I'm interested to know what vinyl's upper limit is.. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide modey's signature Hide all signatures youtube | bandcamp | soundcloud | twitter | facebook 0F.digital Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/91693-drukqs-parental-advisory-warning/page/2/#findComment-2488473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psn Posted October 7, 2016 Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 On 10/7/2016 at 3:07 AM, modey said: ^ yup do any other albums go above 22.5khz on vinyl? I'm interested to know what vinyl's upper limit is.. There isn't really any "upper limit" like with the Nyquist theorem, but somewhere between 50kHz and 100kHz should be practically possible at least. Check the CD4 format which reproduces freqeuencies up to 45kHz, for instance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compatible_Discrete_4 On 10/7/2016 at 3:34 AM, Mesh Gear Fox said: i'd say there's a good chance that there's a low pass filter around 22khz on most record players or amplifiers, the only way that extra resolution would come in handy would be if it were pressed at 45 and you slowed it down. There's no low pass filter on record players. The mastering and/or cutting engineer will probably apply a low pass filter and a high pass filter, as well as summing the sub ~100Hz content to mono. Check this link: http://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Myths_(Vinyl) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/91693-drukqs-parental-advisory-warning/page/2/#findComment-2488495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
qualitycontrol Posted October 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 It really depends on the hardware you are playing back on. Also: Audiophiles will tell you that analog sources or hi-res digital (96k / 24bit etc) let you hear things like "space" and "definition" I.E. -- not necessarily audio information but "spacial audio metadata". And there are studies that show this to be true. HOWEVER, in the realm of electronic music it really doesn't buy you much since your sound is generated inside of a circuit and (these days) passed directly into a mixer or similar to be placed on a medium (tape / DAT / CD / wax / whatever). The supersonic and subsonic information is generally created when recording in an acoustic space. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/91693-drukqs-parental-advisory-warning/page/2/#findComment-2488738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinePrimitiveSounds Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 On 10/6/2016 at 9:12 PM, Joyrex said: On 10/6/2016 at 9:01 PM, petina said: On 10/6/2016 at 8:54 PM, Joyrex said: On 10/6/2016 at 8:49 PM, petina said: On 10/6/2016 at 3:16 PM, D4M0 said: Drukqs repress, warp pls... gotta be that person here and say no ty, the original vinyl was pressed from cd quality source What? Where'd you get that? *cracks knuckles, gets ready for everyone to groan at me for this even tho im just stating facts* Reveal hidden contents here's a pic of a section of a vinyl rip the frequencies cut off at ~22kHz, which is the same quality as a CD. the purple lines you see above 22.5 are artifacts from surface noise. this could imply it was pressed from a CD, or aphex only ever rendered the tracks at this quality (which would be understandable seeing as he made this album on a laptop in the late 90s, didn't he?) i'm not saying, like, don't buy the records or whatever. just know what you're getting Interesting... I assume this is your own vinyl rip - would anything in your chain possibly contribute to it being capped at that? (also I thought CDs were 44.1 kHz?) As for "made on a laptop in the late 90's"... I am sure Richard used far more than just a laptop in the recording process. The amount of love and effort he put into DrukQs would lead me to think he wouldn't have capped the tracks at such a limit (and that he would know the difference). Or, perhaps like most people, he can't hear the difference anyway, so why bother? No no no he used a Mac and ProPlayer for the technical computer songs nothing more my dear Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide FinePrimitiveSounds's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/91693-drukqs-parental-advisory-warning/page/2/#findComment-2489287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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