the watmm GAS thread

I friend lent me his P6 while he was away for a month. I'll be honest, I didn't really like it and I don't even know why.

It sounded amazing once you got deeper into tweaking but it annoyed me that there was effects. It seemed too easy to go straight to them and make the sound glorious. I know, who cares as long as you get the sounds out right? Well, no not for me, it's more the enjoyment in learning an instrument and fine tuning the synthesis to get usable sounds. If you can slather nice effects on straight away for quick satisfaction then you're missing the point of an in depth synth.

Also, there is something about the DSI sound I don't get on with. It's been the same with every one I have tried and sold.

And don't get me started again on presets haha

 

Regardless of my hangups the P6 IS amazing sounding it's just not for me and i'm glad that I had chance to try it before I wasted 2k

It also makes me not want the OB6 too by default but damn, that sounds ace from demo's ha

just pour a wee amount of cement over the effects knobs and pretend it was never there !!!

 

not liking a synth because it's too easy making nice noises i swear to god :^) ;^)

Edited November 23, 2016 by bitroast

lol bitroast

 

I kinda agree, to a lesser extent, about getting a synth to sound good without effects before drenching it.. it seems like such a more rewarding experience to finetune a patch until it sounds lush by itself, and *then* chuck some reverb/chorus/distortion on it to make it even more awesome.

 

Having said that though, if someone uses a synth with onboard effects, and creates something amazing with that entire setup, then that's great too. Effects are as much of a sound design tool as pure synthesis imo.

 

I guess it's a similar argument to the anti-presets argument. I gave up on getting angry at people making banal music with awesome synths, good for them if it makes them happy.

yeah, I totally see my retarded opinion but it still stands.

 

My rules are not rules for everyone and vice versa. I'm not a nazi about it, horses for courses innit.

  On 11/18/2016 at 10:10 AM, telefunken said:

I had no GAS for 1,5 years since birth of my son. I have barely 1-2 hours a day for music making. Furthermore since the end of last winter i had to put major part of my gear into the big ikea box because that configuration had enormous amount of overhanging wires here and there. Kid could overturn my table one day (nowadays he would do this immediately). Also dozens of power supplies were lying on the floor so i had to free up some space on the table for them. 

 

Nevertheless i start to experience some sparks of GAS from time to time:

Audiothingies Micromonsta

and Elektron A4

 

But then i realize that i have no money due to nowadays exchange rate + lack of time and i stop GASing (i wouldn't mind to have micromonsta though lol).

Also i made most compact, flexible and all-sufficient (to me) configuration for today. Thanks to OT and it's posibilities.

 

Behold

 

 

 

Edit:

I'd also like to get Eventide DSP4000 or H8000 and mess with it via VSig 

 

I've got something similar, got second axoloti on the way. OT + Bassstation II + axoloti/axocontrol for synth + axoloti w/ case for fx + effects unit + compressor + mixer + prophet 12(newest purchase!!!!!!!!). That's the setup I'm aiming for at the moment.

 

I also really want an old eventide DSP unit like you suggest? Are we twins? I want to build a stupid diagram like you have above.

Iv got the eventide space and its beautiful. Would love to add a harmoniser

I missed out on a Harmoniser a few months ago that was literally 1 mile away and was gutted. So I bought a space and a Pitchfactor.

The Space is amazing, much prefer it to the bigsky which people often compare. The pitchfactor is not quite as usable as you'd expect but it's really fun.

Ha, I keep looking at reverbs like the bigsky/space and thinking I need them. Meanwhile I have a quadraverb, midiverb III, behringer virtualizer pro and behringer RV600.. Maybe I should sell them all and get something L•U•S•H

Anyone heard the 0-Coast?

The filter on that thing gave me chills

  On 11/23/2016 at 11:57 PM, modey said:

Ha, I keep looking at reverbs like the bigsky/space and thinking I need them. Meanwhile I have a quadraverb, midiverb III, behringer virtualizer pro and behringer RV600.. Maybe I should sell them all and get something L•U•S•H

Those boxes have their own flavour and have a place in music for sure. I wouldn't sat The space etc is better just very different.

Lots of reverbs sound like an effect, not how you'd imagine playing the instrument or whatever in a real space. These effects hiss, fizz, sound metallic... sound like you have digitally affected the audio, which of course is great, like any effect, you get results that sound ace.

The Space is just different. It's smooth and almost real sounding, maybe a bit too smooth at times like being in a velvet cathedral. It sounds closer to what I want from a reverb and is fun too. I also use A PCM80 and a DP4 which are more harsh and bitty but just as usable in the right context.

 

Limpy: No I haven't.

Interesting. Maybe I'll see if I can try one out sometime. I like the velvet cathedral idea, and stuff like the BigSky is so damn lush it almost makes me cry.. 

I'd say that the way the "algorithms" on each pedal (Space and Bigsky) are similar that's why they get compared. They are both hugely "lush". But quite different texture wise. The bigsky is fizzier and sort of sits on or blankets the audio whereas the Space is smooth and kind of knits it's way into the sound a bit more. Depends on the wet/dry levels of course.

  On 11/24/2016 at 2:07 AM, LimpyLoo said:

Anyone heard the 0-Coast?

The filter on that thing gave me chills

 

aww man, i want one of them so bad....

 

  On 11/23/2016 at 9:43 PM, Bubba69 said:

 

 

I've got something similar, got second axoloti on the way. OT + Bassstation II + axoloti/axocontrol for synth + axoloti w/ case for fx + effects unit + compressor + mixer + prophet 12(newest purchase!!!!!!!!). That's the setup I'm aiming for at the moment.

 

I also really want an old eventide DSP unit like you suggest? Are we twins? I want to build a stupid diagram like you have above.

 

 

Hey man. How do you find your Axoloti? I made plenty of FX to send to from OT via CUE output. I can tweak 'em via MIDI from OT midi pages:

 

Example of Grainverb with feedback path through Bode freq shifer:

https://clyp.it/qrp1nsyy

 

You can find my FDN implementation in style of Tom Erbe made of existing objects here:

http://community.axoloti.com/t/reverbs-creation/1071/27

There are some sound snippets also

 

Yeah totally forgot to mention 0-coast here

Edited November 24, 2016 by telefunken

  On 11/24/2016 at 2:07 AM, LimpyLoo said:

Anyone heard the 0-Coast?

The filter on that thing gave me chills

Fucking great sounds out of that thing all around, yes. And not a bad price for what it is. Thinking I may grab one in a year or two used for half the price :)

Might as well ask this here.  I'd like to buy some FX units, and preferably pedals for a variety of reasons.  I'm really interested in the Red Panda Particle, but I'm wondering what else might be out there from the world of 'real' instruments that might transfer well into the world of synths/drum machines, or even just fucking cool units that would be good.  For example I still have the Boss RPS-10 on my list after seeing someone mention it here.

 

https://youtu.be/OXUfj6y4NO0

I got the Red Panda bitcrusher back when they were doing Line6 Tonecore modules and it's really good (even with just a mono Tonecore pedal), I bet their new stuff is fantastic.

  On 11/24/2016 at 1:43 PM, TRiP said:

 

  On 11/24/2016 at 2:07 AM, LimpyLoo said:

Anyone heard the 0-Coast?

The filter on that thing gave me chills

aww man, i want one of them so bad....

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FW8QYt6bio

 

Fuck yeah

This thing single-handedly restored my obsession with synthesizers

  On 11/24/2016 at 5:56 PM, b born droid said:

For example I still have the Boss RPS-10 on my list after seeing someone mention it here.

 

lol that may have been me. I just sold mine this week, after not using it for months. It's a good unit but just doesn't fit in to my sound..

  On 11/24/2016 at 8:54 PM, LimpyLoo said:

 

  On 11/24/2016 at 1:43 PM, TRiP said:

 

  On 11/24/2016 at 2:07 AM, LimpyLoo said:

Anyone heard the 0-Coast?

The filter on that thing gave me chills

aww man, i want one of them so bad....

 

 

Fuck yeah

This thing single-handedly restored my obsession with synthesizers

 

Yeah, they look really great.  It's been a great few years for affordable analog and it seems to keep getting better.

I think the plan is after I complete the Elektron dark trinity, I'll start a modular and the 0 coast will be the first thing I get for it besides the rack.

  On 11/24/2016 at 2:07 AM, LimpyLoo said:

Anyone heard the 0-Coast?

The filter on that thing gave me chills

Does it even have a filter?

  On 11/26/2016 at 5:56 PM, psn said:

 

  On 11/24/2016 at 2:07 AM, LimpyLoo said:

Anyone heard the 0-Coast?

The filter on that thing gave me chills

Does it even have a filter?

It's got a few, I think

But yeah, the reason I like it so much is because it gives you a bunch of different ways to manipulate overtones:

Both the 'east coast' and 'west coast' styles of dealing with overtones

(Hence "no coast")

Its probably more for the "crappy gear" thread than this thread, but for the last year or two I'd been kind of wanting to replace the old DR660 that was my first non-Casio electronic instrument back in the day, but didn't want to spend money on it, and it looks like after a month of silence a trade for the not quite as playable but vastly more ridiculous sounding DR-5 Dr. Rhythm Section is about to go down this week, so I'll have mostly scratched my 90s Boss drum machine cheese itch soon, and gotten a crappy guitar DI and pitch to midi converter too.

  On 11/22/2016 at 2:10 PM, acid1 said:

 

  On 11/18/2016 at 11:10 AM, sweepstakes said:

(minus some really nerdy shit I was obsessed with that any designer/engineer/architect in her right mind would nuke from project scope ASAP, with great prejudice)

 

 

I'd actually love for you to elaborate on this, potentially in a spoiler tag :) I used to be a heavy user of Buzz and Renoise.

 

As you wish...