TubularCorporation Posted December 24, 2017 Report Share Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) On 12/24/2017 at 4:09 PM, auxien said: On 12/24/2017 at 1:22 AM, RSP said: There's a Behringer Tweakalizer complete in the box for $9.99 on eBay right now with no bids... we'l see what it's looking like in the last hour but I might finally have to scratch that stupid itch. Never seen that, it's a pretty weird little fella ain't it? Could be pretty interesting though. The big dial reminds me of an idea I had earlier this year for a MIDI controller. Ideas don't count for shit if you have no mechanical aptitude like me though. lol I found out about them about a year ago, they're pretty interesting. Most people seem to agree that they actually sound really good and have some interesting performance features, with an awkwardly large form factor and especially cheap, unreliable build quality (even for old-school Behringer gear). I'm always intrigued by anything that's cheap, weird and unpopular but I wouldn't want to spend more than the price of a pizza or two. It looks like one of those things like the Kaoss Pad 2 I traded away years ago that are great for feeding back into themselves. Mono signal into left input, left output into right input, right output to a mixer channel. The thing that made the KP2 so good for that (or even for inputless self-oscllation noodling) was the mode that muted it whenever you weren't actually touching the XY pad, so you could get some completely unstable feedback stuff going on but cut it in and out easily. I'd regret trading mine except that I got two 1970s Unicord analog BBD units for it that just needed to have some loose pots resoldered, so I ended up keeping one and flipping the other for three times what I paid for the KP2 to begin with and the other guy ended up with a free KP2 (because he had just found the Unicords in the trash) and everyone was happy. Anyway, this thing seems like Behringer essentially stuck a Redsound/Peavy Grabber phrase sampler and a few Alesis ModFX units into one box with a big rotary controller on it. Edited December 24, 2017 by RSP Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide TubularCorporation's signature Hide all signatures Lagoon City (from here to eternity/when I'm sick of it) Codemus2x43 (2013-14) Golfhammer 40,000 (2014-15) Tubular Corporation (2016-17) THawkins' archive of our livestreams since 2020 Instagram (new releases, music bullshit, non-music bullshit and sometimes photos of my lunch) Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92023-the-watmm-gas-thread/page/71/#findComment-2597899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxien Posted December 24, 2017 Report Share Posted December 24, 2017 Not sure if these demos make me want a Rocket or new guitar pedals more Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide auxien's signature Hide all signatures / b c / m a s t o d o n / b l o t / Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92023-the-watmm-gas-thread/page/71/#findComment-2597953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubularCorporation Posted December 25, 2017 Report Share Posted December 25, 2017 Oooh, digital oscillators into an analog filter is a great sound in general. That thing looks way cooler than the Streichfett did, to me. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide TubularCorporation's signature Hide all signatures Lagoon City (from here to eternity/when I'm sick of it) Codemus2x43 (2013-14) Golfhammer 40,000 (2014-15) Tubular Corporation (2016-17) THawkins' archive of our livestreams since 2020 Instagram (new releases, music bullshit, non-music bullshit and sometimes photos of my lunch) Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92023-the-watmm-gas-thread/page/71/#findComment-2597959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubularCorporation Posted December 25, 2017 Report Share Posted December 25, 2017 (edited) Not something I actually want but something that I'd never heard of before. It's quite obviously an Alesis Nanoverb with a different face plate, and I have no idea what the deal is with the company, whether it's a legitimate OEM product or on of those weird pieces of bootleg gear that comes out of China sometimes. Although actually, it has a reverse reverb and "random" reverb, and IIRC the Nanoverb didn't have either of those (I have a Nanoverb that someone I know who used to be in Alesis tech support got out of the trash, but it was rehoused in a Nanobass enclosure so I don't know what any of the algorithms were actually called), so maybe it's worth some attention after all. There's one on eBay right now hovering around $3. This is the sort of thing I would almost always grab if it was under $15 because, like samplers and delays, there's really no such thing as a useless reverb and sometimes the crappiest ones are the most interesting. Edited December 25, 2017 by RSP Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide TubularCorporation's signature Hide all signatures Lagoon City (from here to eternity/when I'm sick of it) Codemus2x43 (2013-14) Golfhammer 40,000 (2014-15) Tubular Corporation (2016-17) THawkins' archive of our livestreams since 2020 Instagram (new releases, music bullshit, non-music bullshit and sometimes photos of my lunch) Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92023-the-watmm-gas-thread/page/71/#findComment-2598040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxien Posted December 25, 2017 Report Share Posted December 25, 2017 On 12/25/2017 at 12:07 AM, RSP said: Oooh, digital oscillators into an analog filter is a great sound in general. That thing looks way cooler than the Streichfett did, to me. Agreed. Digital+analog combos are sort of my fetish, I've learned. I've heard some interesting bits from Streichfett, but it seems to almost always need post processing and even then doesn't get very unique. The Rocket doesn't often get 'unique' but i've heard bits (not in those demos really, but in others) where it did some very interesting stuff...but for the most it's always got a solid, malleable sound. I considered one before I bought my Pulse 2, and still have an interest in picking one up at some point. Maybe if I can snag a cheap-ish used one, though honestly they're not a bad price brand new either. On 12/25/2017 at 6:31 PM, RSP said: This is the sort of thing I would almost always grab if it was under $15 because, like samplers and delays, there's really no such thing as a useless reverb and sometimes the crappiest ones are the most interesting. This sort of sentiment is something I've always gone by, I've got a box full of tiny, cheap sound toys because of it too. I need to get more into stuff like you posted though, weird/shitty/knock-off/unknown gear. I'm sure some is just pure shit, but almost anything is going to have some interesting use. I like to think that, at least :) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide auxien's signature Hide all signatures / b c / m a s t o d o n / b l o t / Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92023-the-watmm-gas-thread/page/71/#findComment-2598064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubularCorporation Posted December 27, 2017 Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 Well, I took the plunge and bought a lot with that reverb plus the compressor from the same line, both NOS display models, for $25 total (plus shipping). There's almost no info on them online but someone on Gearslutz claims the compressor is a bit of hidden gem and claims to own 6 of them. For that price there's no excuse to not give them a shot, if nothing else a really crap compressor can sound great on a digital drum machine. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide TubularCorporation's signature Hide all signatures Lagoon City (from here to eternity/when I'm sick of it) Codemus2x43 (2013-14) Golfhammer 40,000 (2014-15) Tubular Corporation (2016-17) THawkins' archive of our livestreams since 2020 Instagram (new releases, music bullshit, non-music bullshit and sometimes photos of my lunch) Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92023-the-watmm-gas-thread/page/71/#findComment-2598172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
acid1 Posted December 27, 2017 Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 Ugh .. so Holiday sales + too much eggnog .... picked up some shit, then woke up the next morning hung over like wtf did I do Intellijel Rubicon, Make Noise Wogglebug, Xaoc Kamieniec, Copper Traces Seek, Intellijel uFold2, Tip top SD909, Tip Top Hats808...... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92023-the-watmm-gas-thread/page/71/#findComment-2598183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thawkins Posted December 27, 2017 Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 I built a probabilistic crossfader in Pure Data to route step triggers between two 8-step sequencers (which I also built). GASing now to test the thing out. M4L is only 119 euros though. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide thawkins's signature Hide all signatures We Are The Music Makers | Volume One by Various TELECHARGER: audiovisual experimental space rock livestreams with Tubular Corporation most Tuesdays 8.30PM CET Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92023-the-watmm-gas-thread/page/71/#findComment-2598185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubularCorporation Posted December 27, 2017 Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 On 12/27/2017 at 2:43 AM, thawkins said: I built a probabilistic crossfader in Pure Data to route step triggers between two 8-step sequencers (which I also built). GASing now to test the thing out. M4L is only 119 euros though. I don't know enough about coding to know how feasible it is, but that seems like something that would be really cool to port over to Teensy or something with libpd (except I don't know if it does MIDI processing of if it only implements the audio features in PD) and make it in to standalone hardware. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide TubularCorporation's signature Hide all signatures Lagoon City (from here to eternity/when I'm sick of it) Codemus2x43 (2013-14) Golfhammer 40,000 (2014-15) Tubular Corporation (2016-17) THawkins' archive of our livestreams since 2020 Instagram (new releases, music bullshit, non-music bullshit and sometimes photos of my lunch) Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92023-the-watmm-gas-thread/page/71/#findComment-2598265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YangYing Posted December 27, 2017 Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 (edited) On 12/15/2017 at 2:08 PM, QQQ said: i couldn't contain my GAS over Christmas and i now have a Dreadbox Erebus en routegot one this year too, loving it :) On 12/24/2017 at 4:09 PM, auxien said: On 12/24/2017 at 1:22 AM, RSP said: There's a Behringer Tweakalizer complete in the box for $9.99 on eBay right now with no bids... we'l see what it's looking like in the last hour but I might finally have to scratch that stupid itch.Never seen that, it's a pretty weird little fella ain't it? Could be pretty interesting though. The big dial reminds me of an idea I had earlier this year for a MIDI controller. Ideas don't count for shit if you have no mechanical aptitude like me though. lol Saw this new version of the Kastl on CDM, looks so much fun. Maybe a fun little purchase next year? dammit I barely use the old version which i have.. Edited December 27, 2017 by MIXL2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide YangYing's signature Hide all signatures >>MY MUSIC<< Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92023-the-watmm-gas-thread/page/71/#findComment-2598270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
QQQ Posted December 27, 2017 Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 yeah the Dreadbox sounds fantastic. i haven't had much time to use it yet so i'm looking forward to getting really stuck in. the echo is so over the top lo-fi, been using it + the patch bay to create some fucked up soundscapes. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92023-the-watmm-gas-thread/page/71/#findComment-2598272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thawkins Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 On 12/27/2017 at 7:38 PM, RSP said: On 12/27/2017 at 2:43 AM, thawkins said: I built a probabilistic crossfader in Pure Data to route step triggers between two 8-step sequencers (which I also built). GASing now to test the thing out. M4L is only 119 euros though. I don't know enough about coding to know how feasible it is, but that seems like something that would be really cool to port over to Teensy or something with libpd (except I don't know if it does MIDI processing of if it only implements the audio features in PD) and make it in to standalone hardware. I think it would be really nice to have a small knobby and input/output-ly box where you could load random Pure Data patches into. Right now the closest thing is the OWL modular, but a standalone thing would be much better as you wouldn't have to start by sticking the eurocrack needle into you. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide thawkins's signature Hide all signatures We Are The Music Makers | Volume One by Various TELECHARGER: audiovisual experimental space rock livestreams with Tubular Corporation most Tuesdays 8.30PM CET Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92023-the-watmm-gas-thread/page/71/#findComment-2598401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psn Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 The Organelle has comprehensive PD functionality. https://www.critterandguitari.com/products/organelle Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92023-the-watmm-gas-thread/page/71/#findComment-2598403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xox Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 On 12/28/2017 at 9:39 AM, psn said: The Organelle has comprehensive PD functionality. https://www.critterandguitari.com/products/organelle 500 dollars for few knobs?! behringer bcr2000 + laptop work like a charm Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92023-the-watmm-gas-thread/page/71/#findComment-2598429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweepstakes Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 On 12/28/2017 at 1:42 PM, xox said: On 12/28/2017 at 9:39 AM, psn said: The Organelle has comprehensive PD functionality. https://www.critterandguitari.com/products/organelle 500 dollars for few knobs?! behringer bcr2000 + laptop work like a charm It also has good converters, a keyboard, a patch selection system, an attractive chassis, and a nice OLED. But yeah it's probably not for you. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92023-the-watmm-gas-thread/page/71/#findComment-2598493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubularCorporation Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 On 12/28/2017 at 9:34 AM, thawkins said: On 12/27/2017 at 7:38 PM, RSP said: On 12/27/2017 at 2:43 AM, thawkins said: I built a probabilistic crossfader in Pure Data to route step triggers between two 8-step sequencers (which I also built). GASing now to test the thing out. M4L is only 119 euros though. I don't know enough about coding to know how feasible it is, but that seems like something that would be really cool to port over to Teensy or something with libpd (except I don't know if it does MIDI processing of if it only implements the audio features in PD) and make it in to standalone hardware. I think it would be really nice to have a small knobby and input/output-ly box where you could load random Pure Data patches into. Right now the closest thing is the OWL modular, but a standalone thing would be much better as you wouldn't have to start by sticking the eurocrack needle into you. I looked at a bunch of this stuff and I think the Axoloti with a DIY control surface is still probably the best bet for what I'd want to do. The one big complaint is that it only has two channels of audio i/o, but for the price you could get a few and run them in parallel or series. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide TubularCorporation's signature Hide all signatures Lagoon City (from here to eternity/when I'm sick of it) Codemus2x43 (2013-14) Golfhammer 40,000 (2014-15) Tubular Corporation (2016-17) THawkins' archive of our livestreams since 2020 Instagram (new releases, music bullshit, non-music bullshit and sometimes photos of my lunch) Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92023-the-watmm-gas-thread/page/71/#findComment-2598500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankbooth Posted December 29, 2017 Report Share Posted December 29, 2017 Moments away from pulling trigger on Volca FM despite having zero experience with fm synthesis. Just loving the sounds in some of these YouTube demos. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92023-the-watmm-gas-thread/page/71/#findComment-2598612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flacid Posted December 29, 2017 Report Share Posted December 29, 2017 They look really fun tbf, I've been tempted a few times. FM synthesis is a small % knowledge and large % experimentation. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide flacid's signature Hide all signatures M I D I E V I L /// R E C O R D S Bēāt H āvēn click Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92023-the-watmm-gas-thread/page/71/#findComment-2598620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
user Posted December 29, 2017 Report Share Posted December 29, 2017 I gotta say, I have one and although I enjoy it, for me it's basically just a dexed/dx7 patch player. I love the look though. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92023-the-watmm-gas-thread/page/71/#findComment-2598621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxien Posted December 29, 2017 Report Share Posted December 29, 2017 On 12/29/2017 at 6:30 PM, frankbooth said: Moments away from pulling trigger on Volca FM despite having zero experience with fm synthesis. Just loving the sounds in some of these YouTube demos.I would think it better to buy it BECAUSE you have zero experience with FM synthesis. Best way to learn is jump in the deep end sometimes. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide auxien's signature Hide all signatures / b c / m a s t o d o n / b l o t / Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92023-the-watmm-gas-thread/page/71/#findComment-2598636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweepstakes Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Yeah it's so cheap, just get one. Worst case you'll have a little toy to kill time with. There's so much to play with packed into the little thing and it's about as instant gratification as FM gets without being mindless preset surfing. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92023-the-watmm-gas-thread/page/71/#findComment-2598659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spptrl alt del Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Yamaha Reface DX would be cool at $300... I just don't like the feel of the Korg membrane / keypad--feels chintzy. It looks like there were some pre- Dec. 31st deals at Juno - Yamaha Reface keyboards for approx. $275 USD. The CP (sold out) sounds pretty sweet, but it's more of a want than a need. They look well-built, very playable Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92023-the-watmm-gas-thread/page/71/#findComment-2598700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spptrl alt del Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 https://www.juno.co.uk/products/yamaha-reface-dx-fm-synthesizer-includes-free/580978-01/ Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92023-the-watmm-gas-thread/page/71/#findComment-2598701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flacid Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 The CS (no external effects added in this 1st video) and DX refaces are very lush. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide flacid's signature Hide all signatures M I D I E V I L /// R E C O R D S Bēāt H āvēn click Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92023-the-watmm-gas-thread/page/71/#findComment-2598720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted December 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Yeah the reface dx is great. I don't use it for its sound often but it's always on my desk as my midi controller for softsynths and hardware, as the keybed is so great. I made this track with the dx: https://tefosav.bandcamp.com/track/dxcid Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide modey's signature Hide all signatures youtube | bandcamp | soundcloud | twitter | facebook 0F.digital Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92023-the-watmm-gas-thread/page/71/#findComment-2598721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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