usagi Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 but why Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide usagi's signature Hide all signatures On 4/17/2013 at 2:45 PM, Alcofribas said: afaik i usually place all my cum drops on scientifically sterilized glass slides which are carefully frozen and placed in trash cans throughout the city labelled "for women alco" with my social security and phone numbers. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92326-making-electronic-music-in-2017-and-beyond-why/page/5/#findComment-2522762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goiter Sanchez Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 On 2/1/2017 at 8:02 AM, usagi said: but why because we r are why Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Goiter Sanchez's signature Hide all signatures Soundcloud - http://soundcloud.com/swegunoFacebook - http://www.facebook.com/sweguno Mixcloud - https://www.mixcloud.com/Sweguno/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92326-making-electronic-music-in-2017-and-beyond-why/page/5/#findComment-2522763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
usagi Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 why, but. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide usagi's signature Hide all signatures On 4/17/2013 at 2:45 PM, Alcofribas said: afaik i usually place all my cum drops on scientifically sterilized glass slides which are carefully frozen and placed in trash cans throughout the city labelled "for women alco" with my social security and phone numbers. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92326-making-electronic-music-in-2017-and-beyond-why/page/5/#findComment-2522764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
purlieu Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 On 2/1/2017 at 8:21 AM, usagi said: wipe butt. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide purlieu's signature Hide all signatures This is a YouTube channel in which I am looking at the history of FSOL, the history of ambient house & ambient techno, and some other stuff. / This is a Bandcamp page with some of my music on it. / This is a Blogger page with news about FSOL. Do have a click. Rice cube going down the escalator. Where's it going? Nobody knows. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92326-making-electronic-music-in-2017-and-beyond-why/page/5/#findComment-2522784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Human Bean Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 To answer OP srsly I make a living from commissions, royalties from tv+radio, dj sets and live performances.I make virtually nothing from selling music directly.I wouldn't have chosen music if I'd wanted a simpler career path/life with guaranteed good pay but I really, really love music so that's how I choose to spend my time.We could really do with a movement away from tech company owned subscription services which make vast profits for them at the expense of the artist and the quality of the product. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92326-making-electronic-music-in-2017-and-beyond-why/page/5/#findComment-2522795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Mughnus Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 ^ very thankful you've chosen this path. Love the tunes I have from you. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Hugh Mughnus's signature Hide all signatures On 1/19/2020 at 5:27 PM, Richie Sombrero said: Nah, you're a wee child who can't wait for official release. Embarrassing. Shove your privilege. On 9/2/2014 at 12:37 AM, Ivan Ooze said: don't be a cockroach prolapsing nun bulkV Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92326-making-electronic-music-in-2017-and-beyond-why/page/5/#findComment-2522844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ralph Nolte Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 On 2/1/2017 at 2:17 PM, Brian Dance said: We could really do with a movement away from tech company owned subscription services which make vast profits for them at the expense of the artist and the quality of the product. Unfortunately, dominance of music sales by a monopoly of tech companies and streaming sites is exactly where this is all heading... For people starting out in music now I think it's actually both realistic and liberating to assume that you will not make a living out of this - and you can then concentrate on the creative aspects for their own sake. Of course, that assumes you have a proper source of income from something else and still have enough free time & spare cash to make your music production hobby feasible. Trying to actually "make it" just doesn't seem worthwhile: I've seen some videos of a guy in Germany called Jon Sine who's done 200+ daily YouTube vlogs of his day-to-day life as a music producer and it all looks pretty crazy to me: long solitary hours in his studio or in front of his laptop answering e-mails, editing his videos until early hours of the morning, eating junk food, getting little sleep, dealing with a crazy work schedule - all for the sake of "promoting" himself... He's now built up a subscriber base of several thousand, yet he talks a lot about songs he's working on getting cancelled or e.g. an ad production deal falling through. He never smiles and it doesn't look like he's having a lot of fun "making music" (composing his stuff according to strict formulas, I might add)... He isn't even 30 yet, but he's a candidate for a heart attack one day soon - if you ask me. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92326-making-electronic-music-in-2017-and-beyond-why/page/5/#findComment-2522855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotwang Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 On 2/1/2017 at 2:17 PM, Brian Dance said: We could really do with a movement away from tech company owned subscription services which make vast profits for them at the expense of the artist and the quality of the product. If only some high-profile musicians would get together and buy a streaming service. They could promote it with a promise of greater artistic control and better audio quality, or something. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Rotwang's signature Hide all signatures A comathematician is a device for turning cotheorems into ffee. ⬇⬇ GET A LOAD OF THIS CRAP ⬇⬇ Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92326-making-electronic-music-in-2017-and-beyond-why/page/5/#findComment-2522910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 flol Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Silent Member's signature Hide all signatures Some songs I made with my fingers and electronics. In the process of making some more. Hopefully. Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92326-making-electronic-music-in-2017-and-beyond-why/page/5/#findComment-2522935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxbip Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 Money is not the point. Art is a visceral need. If you don't make a living out of it you either: Live fucking poor and deal with it. or Find time to make music. If you cant do either of these it means you dont have the need and love of music strong enough yet. When you love it for real you find the time. You find the time or you are miserable. Even if Autechre would make 0 cash with music and work full time they would find a way to make music. Even 1 hour each day means 7 hours a week. Thats enough to make one track a week. If you double that its 14 hours a week. Enough time for 2 tracks a week. It's about priorities and how much you are passionate more than anything. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide fxbip's signature Hide all signatures On 5/20/2017 at 8:07 AM, ladalaika said: This entire thread is filthy ape pilates lust. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92326-making-electronic-music-in-2017-and-beyond-why/page/5/#findComment-2538259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lada Laika Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 On 4/8/2017 at 10:45 PM, fxbip said: Money is not the point. Art is a visceral need. If you don't make a living out of it you either: Live fucking poor and deal with it. or Find time to make music. If you cant do either of these it means you dont have the need and love of music strong enough yet. When you love it for real you find the time. You find the time or you are miserable. Even if Autechre would make 0 cash with music and work full time they would find a way to make music. Even 1 hour each day means 7 hours a week. Thats enough to make one track a week. If you double that its 14 hours a week. Enough time for 2 tracks a week. It's about priorities and how much you are passionate more than anything. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Lada Laika's signature Hide all signatures https://blacklivesmatters.carrd.co/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92326-making-electronic-music-in-2017-and-beyond-why/page/5/#findComment-2538263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheatheman Posted April 9, 2017 Report Share Posted April 9, 2017 (edited) posting in threads like this in 2017 and beyond: why? Edited April 9, 2017 by sheathe Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92326-making-electronic-music-in-2017-and-beyond-why/page/5/#findComment-2538290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronical Posted April 9, 2017 Report Share Posted April 9, 2017 The payoff is the music itself. I don't know why there's so many people bitching about the money aspect. I'm 21 years old right now and if I can start working on a weird music setup now I'll probably have some sort of Mammon Machine by the time I'm 40. That's what I'm excited for really. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide chronical's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92326-making-electronic-music-in-2017-and-beyond-why/page/5/#findComment-2538295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thawkins Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 On 4/8/2017 at 10:45 PM, fxbip said: Money is not the point. Art is a visceral need. If you don't make a living out of it you either: Live fucking poor and deal with it. or Find time to make music. If you cant do either of these it means you dont have the need and love of music strong enough yet. When you love it for real you find the time. You find the time or you are miserable. Even if Autechre would make 0 cash with music and work full time they would find a way to make music. Even 1 hour each day means 7 hours a week. Thats enough to make one track a week. If you double that its 14 hours a week. Enough time for 2 tracks a week. It's about priorities and how much you are passionate more than anything. I too think this post is pretty much my attitude. I can take breaks from making music that last weeks at a time, but that's just a temporary show to lie to myself that "I can quit any time". Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide thawkins's signature Hide all signatures We Are The Music Makers | Volume One by Various TELECHARGER: audiovisual experimental space rock livestreams with Tubular Corporation most Tuesdays 8.30PM CET Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92326-making-electronic-music-in-2017-and-beyond-why/page/5/#findComment-2538620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
peace 7 Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 On 4/8/2017 at 10:45 PM, fxbip said: Money is not the point. Art is a visceral need. If you don't make a living out of it you either: Live fucking poor and deal with it. or Find time to make music. If you cant do either of these it means you dont have the need and love of music strong enough yet. When you love it for real you find the time. You find the time or you are miserable. Even if Autechre would make 0 cash with music and work full time they would find a way to make music. Even 1 hour each day means 7 hours a week. Thats enough to make one track a week. If you double that its 14 hours a week. Enough time for 2 tracks a week. It's about priorities and how much you are passionate more than anything. WORD Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide peace 7's signature Hide all signatures ▰ SC-nu ▰ nothinggg.com ▰ SC-old ▰ YT ▰ @peepeeland On 4/22/2014 at 8:07 AM, LimpyLoo said: All your upright-bass variation of patanga shitango are belong to galangwa malango jilankwatu fatangu. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92326-making-electronic-music-in-2017-and-beyond-why/page/5/#findComment-2538628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auditor Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 (edited) On 4/11/2017 at 9:31 AM, thawkins said: On 4/8/2017 at 10:45 PM, fxbip said: Money is not the point. Art is a visceral need. If you don't make a living out of it you either: Live fucking poor and deal with it. or Find time to make music. If you cant do either of these it means you dont have the need and love of music strong enough yet. When you love it for real you find the time. You find the time or you are miserable. Even if Autechre would make 0 cash with music and work full time they would find a way to make music. Even 1 hour each day means 7 hours a week. Thats enough to make one track a week. If you double that its 14 hours a week. Enough time for 2 tracks a week. It's about priorities and how much you are passionate more than anything. I too think this post is pretty much my attitude. I can take breaks from making music that last weeks at a time, but that's just a temporary show to lie to myself that "I can quit any time". I have been making music of various genres since I was 12. When I was younger I really believed that I would "make it", or at least make a living doing it, and throughout the years this caused me countless bouts of depression. I talked myself into quitting makign music and sold most or all of my gear at least half a dozen times, yet I always ended up feeling like a part of my soul, or something, had been killed in the process. Making music is in my dna and, for better or worse, I can't stop. I've been broke and on the verge of homeless numerous times - at one point I was literally stealing Publix subs every single day in order to eat, and only had a bed to sleep on because I had a girlfriend that ended up dumping me two days before I finally found a job. Tl;dr - Music is a damn disease, at least for me. But it's a relatively safe one unless you have a severe case of GAS and no job. Edited April 11, 2017 by Auditor Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92326-making-electronic-music-in-2017-and-beyond-why/page/5/#findComment-2538644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubularCorporation Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 I moved to a new city a few years ago and never managed to find a drummer I liked playing with here, and eventually I go sick of commuting to the next state (without a car, no less) every weekend to practice and play shows and decided fuck it, back to home-recording solo electronic music for me. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide TubularCorporation's signature Hide all signatures Lagoon City (from here to eternity/when I'm sick of it) Codemus2x43 (2013-14) Golfhammer 40,000 (2014-15) Tubular Corporation (2016-17) THawkins' archive of our livestreams since 2020 Instagram (new releases, music bullshit, non-music bullshit and sometimes photos of my lunch) Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92326-making-electronic-music-in-2017-and-beyond-why/page/5/#findComment-2538680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auditor Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 I will also say that it is one of the most pleasurable activities I know of. On par with drugs and sex. There is nothing else that can make 5 hours pass in what seems like 30 minutes. Sittin in the studio alone is my calling. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92326-making-electronic-music-in-2017-and-beyond-why/page/5/#findComment-2538775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YO303 Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) what a ridiculous op, you make music because you love it, lol if your motivations are to make money go open an arby's Edited April 12, 2017 by Deer Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92326-making-electronic-music-in-2017-and-beyond-why/page/5/#findComment-2538781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auditor Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 On 4/12/2017 at 12:43 AM, Deer said: what a ridiculous op, you make music because you love it, lol if your motivations are to make money go open an arby's Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92326-making-electronic-music-in-2017-and-beyond-why/page/5/#findComment-2538785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entorwellian Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 The guy who made the Devil Fish mods was talking about the psychoacoustics of analog signals, particularly with regards to how capacitors do not discharge their energy completely when receiving different response curves (like repeating high frequencies and resonance), mimic that of a distressed animal cry and that there is a primal attraction to that sound. You could probably write a whole set of books on the topic. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Entorwellian's signature Hide all signatures When A Heron Turns BlackNorthern Flicker Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92326-making-electronic-music-in-2017-and-beyond-why/page/5/#findComment-2544428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xox Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 (edited) On 5/6/2017 at 3:57 AM, Entorwellian said: The guy who made the Devil Fish mods was talking about the psychoacoustics of analog signals, particularly with regards to how capacitors do not discharge their energy completely when receiving different response curves (like repeating high frequencies and resonance), mimic that of a distressed animal cry and that there is a primal attraction to that sound. You could probably write a whole set of books on the topic.So if my music sucks atleast i can be sure that ppl would like to feed it?...or to give me money to feed it myself? Edited May 6, 2017 by xox Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92326-making-electronic-music-in-2017-and-beyond-why/page/5/#findComment-2544523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entorwellian Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 Either of those or you're just attracting predators to your location. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Entorwellian's signature Hide all signatures When A Heron Turns BlackNorthern Flicker Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92326-making-electronic-music-in-2017-and-beyond-why/page/5/#findComment-2544558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 I was thinking about quitting but it is hard to give up the wall to wall pussy. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Silent Member's signature Hide all signatures Some songs I made with my fingers and electronics. In the process of making some more. Hopefully. Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92326-making-electronic-music-in-2017-and-beyond-why/page/5/#findComment-2544559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 On 5/6/2017 at 3:57 AM, Entorwellian said: The guy who made the Devil Fish mods was talking about the psychoacoustics of analog signals, particularly with regards to how capacitors do not discharge their energy completely when receiving different response curves (like repeating high frequencies and resonance), mimic that of a distressed animal cry and that there is a primal attraction to that sound. You could probably write a whole set of books on the topic. A couple days ago, I actually had the idea of changing my ringtone to a very small sample of a baby crying to see how affective it would be at getting my attention. [edit] Instead of a pleasing 'plunk' sine wave sound. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Braintree's signature Hide all signatures colindyer.bandcamp.com williamsbraintree.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92326-making-electronic-music-in-2017-and-beyond-why/page/5/#findComment-2544584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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