zkom Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 Buzz is x86/x64 architecture software and RPi is ARM architecture. Doesn't really help even if you run Windows 10 IoT Core. You would have to somehow emulate the CPU and then run Windows on top of that which would make it ridiculously slow. Or am I missing something? Is there an ARM port of Buzz? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide zkom's signature Hide all signatures electro mini-album Megacity Rainfall "cacas in igne, heus" - Emperor Nero, AD 64 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92401-anybody-know-about-raspberry-pi-specifically-daisy-chaining-them-together/page/2/#findComment-2518318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thawkins Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 On 1/16/2017 at 11:16 PM, StocKo said: On 1/16/2017 at 4:49 AM, thawkins said: I sort of read your posts diagonally here, but it seems that what you're talking about is more or less there already. The OWL is available as pedal and an eurorack module. You can program it using Pd and Max or even C it seems. 249GBP for the pedal, 319GBP for the module. Looks rad, but if I can do it by myself for roughty 20€ it'd also be nice ! Off-topic again but I also had some ideas to design buddha-machines clones with Raspeberry (that I still need to buy tho lol) Yeah but as hardwired says, the material cost might end up at 20€, but if you end up spending 100-120 hours (that's roughly 2 months of full-time work), then the time spent starts to factor in pretty heavily as well. However, if you do go through with it, you end up with a lot of useful knowledge and skill. :) I thought a lot about making something Live-like in a Raspberry Pi so I could have midi effects and looping without a full laptop (also no screen staring), but then I figured it would be way easier to just configure Live with your midi stuff so you can just place the laptop out of sight somewhere and control everything with your MIDI interfaces. Of course I have not succeeded with this clever plan, but it seems way more doable than writing and debugging code on the Pi. Now imagine I posted the image about samples, drum skins and goat farming. That said, I think a Pd patch running on the Pi hooked up to some cheapo USB midi thing will totally fit in someone's laptopless set-up. Damn, now I want one.. :) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide thawkins's signature Hide all signatures We Are The Music Makers | Volume One by Various TELECHARGER: audiovisual experimental space rock livestreams with Tubular Corporation most Tuesdays 8.30PM CET Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92401-anybody-know-about-raspberry-pi-specifically-daisy-chaining-them-together/page/2/#findComment-2518371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted January 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 On 1/16/2017 at 11:26 PM, mokz said: Buzz is x86/x64 architecture software and RPi is ARM architecture. Doesn't really help even if you run Windows 10 IoT Core. You would have to somehow emulate the CPU and then run Windows on top of that which would make it ridiculously slow. Or am I missing something? Is there an ARM port of Buzz? no I'm justdumb/lazy Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Ragnar's signature Hide all signatures http://djsaint-hubert.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92401-anybody-know-about-raspberry-pi-specifically-daisy-chaining-them-together/page/2/#findComment-2518373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thawkins Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 On 1/12/2017 at 7:30 PM, Ragnar said: also you can run windows on them I think? Jeskola Buzz allows for up to 12 cores and this might even be an arbitrary decision/amount. the newest raspberry pi is a quad-core and so if you chained 3 together you would make 12? (basic math lol) and then I already have a cheapo tablet I could use for a display (I think?) Basically I want to make modular mayhem and jeskola buzz is good at using multiple cpus (like i could devote one core to each instrument?) edit: maybe it's not so easy, you can get windows 10 IoT Core or something which is stripped down/doesn't run normal programs? shit still would be interesting. and i do make patches that crazy lel. I also usually synthesize the sounds in 'realtime' so I can have little fx going and changing textures etc slightly? I rarely sample my own sounds unless it's obviously sampled sounds like breaks You can't really daisy-chain CPUs together like that in general so that you end up with an effectively 12-core system. The reason for this is that the communication within a CPU between cores is so blazingly fast compared to the maximum network speed/latency between two Raspberry Pis. You could in theory write Buzz to "outsource" some stuff to other Pis, but that would be way way more difficult than just run three copies of Buzz on three Pis. And as someone here already mentioned, since Buzz is compiled for x86/x64 architecture and Pi has ARM architecture (this basically means Buzz is expecting a certain type of processor), it's not going to be easy getting this stuff to work efficiently. I checked and found no source code for Buzz, so if whoever maintains it can ever be arsed to port it to ARM, then it will work on the Pi. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide thawkins's signature Hide all signatures We Are The Music Makers | Volume One by Various TELECHARGER: audiovisual experimental space rock livestreams with Tubular Corporation most Tuesdays 8.30PM CET Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92401-anybody-know-about-raspberry-pi-specifically-daisy-chaining-them-together/page/2/#findComment-2518382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted January 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 On 1/17/2017 at 4:04 AM, thawkins said: On 1/12/2017 at 7:30 PM, Ragnar said: also you can run windows on them I think? Jeskola Buzz allows for up to 12 cores and this might even be an arbitrary decision/amount. the newest raspberry pi is a quad-core and so if you chained 3 together you would make 12? (basic math lol) and then I already have a cheapo tablet I could use for a display (I think?) Basically I want to make modular mayhem and jeskola buzz is good at using multiple cpus (like i could devote one core to each instrument?) edit: maybe it's not so easy, you can get windows 10 IoT Core or something which is stripped down/doesn't run normal programs? shit still would be interesting. and i do make patches that crazy lel. I also usually synthesize the sounds in 'realtime' so I can have little fx going and changing textures etc slightly? I rarely sample my own sounds unless it's obviously sampled sounds like breaks You can't really daisy-chain CPUs together like that in general so that you end up with an effectively 12-core system. The reason for this is that the communication within a CPU between cores is so blazingly fast compared to the maximum network speed/latency between two Raspberry Pis. You could in theory write Buzz to "outsource" some stuff to other Pis, but that would be way way more difficult than just run three copies of Buzz on three Pis. And as someone here already mentioned, since Buzz is compiled for x86/x64 architecture and Pi has ARM architecture (this basically means Buzz is expecting a certain type of processor), it's not going to be easy getting this stuff to work efficiently. I checked and found no source code for Buzz, so if whoever maintains it can ever be arsed to port it to ARM, then it will work on the Pi. k if it's an ARM cpu does that mean i can emulate every game boy advance game at once Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Ragnar's signature Hide all signatures http://djsaint-hubert.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92401-anybody-know-about-raspberry-pi-specifically-daisy-chaining-them-together/page/2/#findComment-2518388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thawkins Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 On 1/17/2017 at 4:32 AM, Ragnar said: On 1/17/2017 at 4:04 AM, thawkins said: On 1/12/2017 at 7:30 PM, Ragnar said: also you can run windows on them I think? Jeskola Buzz allows for up to 12 cores and this might even be an arbitrary decision/amount. the newest raspberry pi is a quad-core and so if you chained 3 together you would make 12? (basic math lol) and then I already have a cheapo tablet I could use for a display (I think?) Basically I want to make modular mayhem and jeskola buzz is good at using multiple cpus (like i could devote one core to each instrument?) edit: maybe it's not so easy, you can get windows 10 IoT Core or something which is stripped down/doesn't run normal programs? shit still would be interesting. and i do make patches that crazy lel. I also usually synthesize the sounds in 'realtime' so I can have little fx going and changing textures etc slightly? I rarely sample my own sounds unless it's obviously sampled sounds like breaks You can't really daisy-chain CPUs together like that in general so that you end up with an effectively 12-core system. The reason for this is that the communication within a CPU between cores is so blazingly fast compared to the maximum network speed/latency between two Raspberry Pis. You could in theory write Buzz to "outsource" some stuff to other Pis, but that would be way way more difficult than just run three copies of Buzz on three Pis. And as someone here already mentioned, since Buzz is compiled for x86/x64 architecture and Pi has ARM architecture (this basically means Buzz is expecting a certain type of processor), it's not going to be easy getting this stuff to work efficiently. I checked and found no source code for Buzz, so if whoever maintains it can ever be arsed to port it to ARM, then it will work on the Pi. k if it's an ARM cpu does that mean i can emulate every game boy advance game at once Fuck if I know, probably not because it still depends on the operating system too. You can't run x86 Linux stuff without recompiling in Windows and vice versa. I think it's got something to do with a program requiring both CPU architecture compatibility (ARM/x86/x64) and OS compatibility (Mac/Linux/Windows). So game boy advance games expect an ARM cpu and also some syscalls from GBA OS. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide thawkins's signature Hide all signatures We Are The Music Makers | Volume One by Various TELECHARGER: audiovisual experimental space rock livestreams with Tubular Corporation most Tuesdays 8.30PM CET Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92401-anybody-know-about-raspberry-pi-specifically-daisy-chaining-them-together/page/2/#findComment-2518394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxien Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 https://youtu.be/V2MTUpji8Uw Felt this was worth mentioning here Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide auxien's signature Hide all signatures / b c / m a s t o d o n / b l o t / Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92401-anybody-know-about-raspberry-pi-specifically-daisy-chaining-them-together/page/2/#findComment-2519714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickthefish Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 On 1/21/2017 at 8:43 AM, auxien said: Felt this was worth mentioning here Came here to share this. Looking forward to seeing their Iow-latency I²S I/O board. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92401-anybody-know-about-raspberry-pi-specifically-daisy-chaining-them-together/page/2/#findComment-2519722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zkom Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 (edited) That smallish RasPi touch display is really shit touch-wise. I have to deal with them on a weekly basis. Drives me mad every time. Edit: At least it looks like the same display. Edited January 21, 2017 by mokz Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide zkom's signature Hide all signatures electro mini-album Megacity Rainfall "cacas in igne, heus" - Emperor Nero, AD 64 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92401-anybody-know-about-raspberry-pi-specifically-daisy-chaining-them-together/page/2/#findComment-2519738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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