Living on the streets for a night

Anyone know what happened to Cryptowen? I know he was hitchhiking around the US but haven't heard from him in a while. :\

  On 1/15/2017 at 5:19 PM, StocKo said:

 

  On 1/15/2017 at 4:53 PM, Lane Visitor said:

I've been having a growing fascination with life on the streets, and while I would not want fo be homeless, I think it would be exciting to experience homelessness for 24-48 hours.

 

You would really visit the lanes

 

irl lol

Also yeah wtf tho, go be a crustpunk homeless cool kid or something, try that life out for a while instead of just 48 hours.

I think I may have communicated this in the wrong way, and looking back at my original post I can definitely see now how what I described comes across as kind of ignorant and like a privileged white hipster etc lol

I probably shouldn't have assumed that you guys know me as a compassionate person, but I am one, and some of the responses here come off as pretty assumptive.

What I really meant to say was that I'd like to go "urban camping" for a night or two, that's all. Homelessness is a word of many meanings, and can get emotionally-driven. When you all go camping, I'm very sure you have the thought, "wow, this is nice to experience not having walls around me, and could be interesting to see what it's like to try and survive in the wilderness" line of thought. Mine's the same, but just in a different environment. Just because it's an urban environment that I want to experience shouldn't make me be written off as an asshole lol. I think by using the word homelessness, some of you guys didn't feel like giving me the benefit of the doubt. I kind of expect more from intellectual people who appreciate avante garde art and lifestyles.   

  On 1/15/2017 at 7:15 PM, span said:

haha I'd love to be a prisoner in Auschwitz for a night or two, after so many WW2 movies i'd love to see some real jew prisoners, see the nazis too you know, experience such important moments of history in the flesh, see what it was really like. Maybe roberto benigni would appear and we'd have wacky adventures. Not like a real prisoner though, maybe if I could have proper meals and maybe not get killed.

Just so you know (((Lane Visitor)))

  On 1/15/2017 at 7:20 PM, Raktorn said:

 

  On 1/15/2017 at 7:18 PM, Lane Visitor said:

 

  On 1/15/2017 at 7:07 PM, chim said:

I had an old mate that did this worldwide for hipster reasons, started by spending one summer in a tent in a Stockholm campus forest, then did the same thing in London, to eventually squat and dumpster dive in NY central park. I think he's in Paris these days doing the same thing. We don't have any contact but after these stints he'd always come home extremely fatigued, spend weeks in his own bed... then talk about how awesome it was. He studied drama class and was a typically bohemic lad, always went on and on about Kerouac. Insufferable in large doses.

 

I think it's quite vulgar to romanticize the whole deal. A UK reporter did this and froze to death in the first night.

For sure... I imagine the hipster fascination. Mine is more of a curiosity and desire for a specific scenario, if my environment could be controlled. I probably would not attempt this... The idea of falling asleep in an industrial / city / factory setting and being near a power generator/industrial fan thing i mentioned is probably what im more "romanticizing" than experiencing actual homelessness, though there's something meditative to me when thinking about what it might be like to just sit there and do nothing with no schedule, no one relying on me, no one to check in with, no walls around me, etc in a busy city by myself. People do this all the time in nature with backpacking, camping... Mine would be the same--just in an urban environment instead of a natural one i guess.

 

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm then it's not really the same, is it?

 

anyway i'm gonna sleep on a bench in a detroit slum for half an hour

 

yeah but where do you draw the line? what if you fell asleep on that bench for 7 hours instead of 30? Then does your activity change from simply wanting to relax in the city to being an ignorant privileged jerk attempting to live in the shoes of those less fortunate than you, when you have the choice and they don't? 

Yeah, it definitely came across badly. The cancer analogy was pretty apt imo.

Go urban camping if you want though, have fun. Take pictures (discreetly, don't want to get yr camera stolen by some actual bum! lol) 

  On 1/15/2017 at 7:37 PM, Lane Visitor said:

 

  On 1/15/2017 at 7:20 PM, Raktorn said:

 

  On 1/15/2017 at 7:18 PM, Lane Visitor said:

 

  On 1/15/2017 at 7:07 PM, chim said:

I had an old mate that did this worldwide for hipster reasons, started by spending one summer in a tent in a Stockholm campus forest, then did the same thing in London, to eventually squat and dumpster dive in NY central park. I think he's in Paris these days doing the same thing. We don't have any contact but after these stints he'd always come home extremely fatigued, spend weeks in his own bed... then talk about how awesome it was. He studied drama class and was a typically bohemic lad, always went on and on about Kerouac. Insufferable in large doses.

 

I think it's quite vulgar to romanticize the whole deal. A UK reporter did this and froze to death in the first night.

For sure... I imagine the hipster fascination. Mine is more of a curiosity and desire for a specific scenario, if my environment could be controlled. I probably would not attempt this... The idea of falling asleep in an industrial / city / factory setting and being near a power generator/industrial fan thing i mentioned is probably what im more "romanticizing" than experiencing actual homelessness, though there's something meditative to me when thinking about what it might be like to just sit there and do nothing with no schedule, no one relying on me, no one to check in with, no walls around me, etc in a busy city by myself. People do this all the time in nature with backpacking, camping... Mine would be the same--just in an urban environment instead of a natural one i guess.

 

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm then it's not really the same, is it?

 

anyway i'm gonna sleep on a bench in a detroit slum for half an hour

 

 

yeah but where do you draw the line? what if you fell asleep on that bench for 7 hours instead of 30? Then does your activity change from simply wanting to relax in the city to being an ignorant privileged jerk attempting to live in the shoes of those less fortunate than you, when you have the choice and they don't?

 

i uh

what?

  On 1/15/2017 at 7:36 PM, roasty said:

 

  On 1/15/2017 at 7:15 PM, span said:

haha I'd love to be a prisoner in Auschwitz for a night or two, after so many WW2 movies i'd love to see some real jew prisoners, see the nazis too you know, experience such important moments of history in the flesh, see what it was really like. Maybe roberto benigni would appear and we'd have wacky adventures. Not like a real prisoner though, maybe if I could have proper meals and maybe not get killed.

 

Just so you know (((Lane Visitor)))

 

roasty, thanks for reminding me of this post which im trying to ignore. 

but now that you apparently use it to, i don't know attack me?, here's some food for thought:

In my religion of Judaism, one of the major features of a holiday called Yom Kippur, is that we take a day off work and fast for a day. In Christianity and Islam, there are similar practices, like Lent, where certain foods are given up. 

Are you going to call people that practice these traditions ignorant for experiencing a "glimpse" of what it's like to not have food? Self-denial can be for various reasons, it's not always about romanticizing. 

  On 1/15/2017 at 5:29 PM, darreichungsform said:

I did this once and it was cool. Drugs involved. Also cool: Sleep in the forest when it's summer

 

I hate cold temperatures though, so for me that works only in summer

 

Need to get some friends to join me nex time

 

- edit: I worked in a factpory building once, I had to add white paint to all the walls. That site was so fascinating whith all these weitrd noises and cables and pipes. I wish I could hang out there one night but it seems that these sites are guarded unfortunately

nice, that factory setting sounds awesome!

  On 1/15/2017 at 7:50 PM, Lane Visitor said:

 

  On 1/15/2017 at 7:36 PM, roasty said:

 

  On 1/15/2017 at 7:15 PM, span said:

haha I'd love to be a prisoner in Auschwitz for a night or two, after so many WW2 movies i'd love to see some real jew prisoners, see the nazis too you know, experience such important moments of history in the flesh, see what it was really like. Maybe roberto benigni would appear and we'd have wacky adventures. Not like a real prisoner though, maybe if I could have proper meals and maybe not get killed.

 

Just so you know (((Lane Visitor)))

 

 

roasty, thanks for reminding me of this post which im trying to ignore. 

 

but now that you apparently use it to, i don't know attack me?, here's some food for thought:

 

In MY religion of Judaism, one of the major features of a holiday called Yom Kippur, is that we take a day off work and fast for a day. In Christianity and Islam, there are similar practices, like Lent, where certain foods are given up. 

 

Are you going to call people that practice these traditions ignorant for experiencing a "glimpse" of what it's like to not have food? Self-denial can be for various reasons, it's not always about romanticizing. 

 

good idea let's all celebrate yom kippur for 24-48 hours to experience a glimpse of judaism

  On 1/15/2017 at 7:57 PM, Raktorn said:

 

  On 1/15/2017 at 7:50 PM, Lane Visitor said:

 

  On 1/15/2017 at 7:36 PM, roasty said:

 

  On 1/15/2017 at 7:15 PM, span said:

haha I'd love to be a prisoner in Auschwitz for a night or two, after so many WW2 movies i'd love to see some real jew prisoners, see the nazis too you know, experience such important moments of history in the flesh, see what it was really like. Maybe roberto benigni would appear and we'd have wacky adventures. Not like a real prisoner though, maybe if I could have proper meals and maybe not get killed.

 

Just so you know (((Lane Visitor)))

 

 

roasty, thanks for reminding me of this post which im trying to ignore. 

 

but now that you apparently use it to, i don't know attack me?, here's some food for thought:

 

In MY religion of Judaism, one of the major features of a holiday called Yom Kippur, is that we take a day off work and fast for a day. In Christianity and Islam, there are similar practices, like Lent, where certain foods are given up. 

 

Are you going to call people that practice these traditions ignorant for experiencing a "glimpse" of what it's like to not have food? Self-denial can be for various reasons, it's not always about romanticizing. 

 

good idea let's all celebrate yom kippur for 24-48 hours to experience a glimpse of judaism

 

lol sounds like you and a few others are out today in this thread just to pick a fight or something. how bout this? you guys can all get a badge of courage for "fighting the good fight against people on watmm who you think don't understand the plight of homeless people". jesus fucking christ dude, if you really want to be helpful to people who have less than you, get off your computer and do some charity work instead of pretending to defend people in worse scenarios than you via keystroke. you're just as privileged as me lol, probably more so. (btw - talking collectively to roasty, span, you and some others, not just directed at you)

  On 1/15/2017 at 7:35 PM, Lane Visitor said:

I think I may have communicated this in the wrong way, and looking back at my original post I can definitely see now how what I described comes across as kind of ignorant and like a privileged white hipster etc lol

 

I probably shouldn't have assumed that you guys know me as a compassionate person, but I am one, and some of the responses here come off as pretty assumptive.

 

What I really meant to say was that I'd like to go "urban camping" for a night or two, that's all. Homelessness is a word of many meanings, and can get emotionally-driven. When you all go camping, I'm very sure you have the thought, "wow, this is nice to experience not having walls around me, and could be interesting to see what it's like to try and survive in the wilderness" line of thought. Mine's the same, but just in a different environment. Just because it's an urban environment that I want to experience shouldn't make me be written off as an asshole lol. I think by using the word homelessness, some of you guys didn't feel like giving me the benefit of the doubt. I kind of expect more from intellectual people who appreciate avante garde art and lifestyles.

yeah if you just said urban camping from the beginning instead of (unintentionally) comparing your situation to that of homeless people this wouldve all been fine and dandy. But this wouldnt be watmm if we lost the opportunity to give someone shit

  On 1/15/2017 at 8:06 PM, span said:

 

  On 1/15/2017 at 7:35 PM, Lane Visitor said:

I think I may have communicated this in the wrong way, and looking back at my original post I can definitely see now how what I described comes across as kind of ignorant and like a privileged white hipster etc lol

 

I probably shouldn't have assumed that you guys know me as a compassionate person, but I am one, and some of the responses here come off as pretty assumptive.

 

What I really meant to say was that I'd like to go "urban camping" for a night or two, that's all. Homelessness is a word of many meanings, and can get emotionally-driven. When you all go camping, I'm very sure you have the thought, "wow, this is nice to experience not having walls around me, and could be interesting to see what it's like to try and survive in the wilderness" line of thought. Mine's the same, but just in a different environment. Just because it's an urban environment that I want to experience shouldn't make me be written off as an asshole lol. I think by using the word homelessness, some of you guys didn't feel like giving me the benefit of the doubt. I kind of expect more from intellectual people who appreciate avante garde art and lifestyles.

yeah if you just said urban camping from the beginning instead of (unintentionally) comparing your situation to that of homeless people this wouldve all been fine and dandy. But this wouldnt be watmm if we lost the opportunity to give someone shit

 

fair enough. miscommunication for sure. i definitely wasn't meaning to hone in on or bring the actual subject of homelessness or homeless people, or even attempt to compare what i might experience in this setting to what homeless people deal with and live. It was simply the closest phrase in my mind to what i was wanting to experience, but realized that the phrase "urban camping" is more accurate. I know this concept still sounds pompous to me at least, the idea of sleeping on the streets by choice. It has been a few passing thoughts in the last week as I've been growing more and more disillusioned with 9-5 lifestyles and transitioning between jobs and lay offs myself, struggling to find my place in the work world and my creative endeavors (I'm working on several concept albums, one that attempts to explore the grittiness and plight of street life through sound design, but also through a fantastical noir element and narrative which is connected to a bigger story), so this thought had been in my mind recently, and this morning I wondered if anyone else on this forum had similar thoughts or curiosity. I sometimes post on here assuming everyone knows my intentions and motives, and I need to really reel that in sometimes lol. 

  On 1/15/2017 at 6:07 PM, Entorwellian said:

 

  On 1/15/2017 at 4:53 PM, Lane Visitor said:

I want to feel

You are a pretty disgusting person for trying to romanticize living on the streets. At any point during that you can get up and leave when things go bad, whereas they can't.

 

Yeah, this is an uncomfortable thread. More badly judged hipster garbage. The last people to have these deep feelings of self reflection was Redruth and drillkicker and they were destroyed for their appalling indulgence.

  On 1/15/2017 at 8:28 PM, Schlitze said:

 

  On 1/15/2017 at 6:07 PM, Entorwellian said:

 

  On 1/15/2017 at 4:53 PM, Lane Visitor said:

I want to feel

You are a pretty disgusting person for trying to romanticize living on the streets. At any point during that you can get up and leave when things go bad, whereas they can't.

 

 

Yeah, this is an uncomfortable thread. More badly judged hipster garbage. The last people to have these deep feelings of self reflection was Redruth and drillkicker and they were destroyed for their appalling indulgence.

 

Please read my last post... miscommunication on my behalf. Not meaning to make anyone uncomfortable. 

ok, i'll go back and read it and see if you can justify. I only read the first half of page 1 and couldn't read any more. It immediately brought back the memories of Redruth and drillkicker, ghastly, troubled men wrapped in cotton wool by their parents with some notion that there was something to be gained by ditching home comforts, but not having the courage to do it, just talk about it. They were annihilated and are shadows of their former self after the hostile reaction. I'll go and read page 2 now, Visitor.

Okay, maybe lock thread, mods? My headline and first post were just not worded or communicated the way i meant, and it looks like it's causing some people to be offended, understandably.     sorry to anyone that felt offended in any way, not my intention.   

Had a homeless gap year after Highschool to find myself, really like opened my eyes caus like these guys know how to parrtttyyy haha

  On 1/15/2017 at 9:04 PM, Lewps said:

Had a homeless gap year after Highschool to find myself, really like opened my eyes caus like these guys know how to parrtttyyy haha

 

Lol well played, that you on the left?

  On 1/15/2017 at 7:35 PM, Lane Visitor said:

I kind of expect more from intellectual people who appreciate avante garde art and lifestyles.

lol

  On 1/15/2017 at 7:35 PM, Lane Visitor said:

I think I may have communicated this in the wrong way, and looking back at my original post I can definitely see now how what I described comes across as kind of ignorant and like a privileged white hipster etc lol

 

I probably shouldn't have assumed that you guys know me as a compassionate person, but I am one, and some of the responses here come off as pretty assumptive.

 

What I really meant to say was that I'd like to go "urban camping" for a night or two, that's all. Homelessness is a word of many meanings, and can get emotionally-driven. When you all go camping, I'm very sure you have the thought, "wow, this is nice to experience not having walls around me, and could be interesting to see what it's like to try and survive in the wilderness" line of thought. Mine's the same, but just in a different environment. Just because it's an urban environment that I want to experience shouldn't make me be written off as an asshole lol. I think by using the word homelessness, some of you guys didn't feel like giving me the benefit of the doubt. I kind of expect more from intellectual people who appreciate avante garde art and lifestyles.   

If this is what you meant then yes, your first post really gives the wrong impression. 'Awesome' and 'homeless' rarely go in the same sentence, unless you're talking about Donald Trump losing his millions and having to slum it.

Wanting to sleep outside isn't the same as being homeless. You're just sleeping somewhere else. Also I know you're not the kind of person to truly believe in this kind of thing i.e. insensitive hipster empathy, you just simply phrased what you wanted to do really badly.

And it is because we are intellectual people that your first post rang alarm bells of an insensitive nature and we responded as offended people. Word choice is everything!

To be honest: It didn't ring alarm bells for me but that's probably because I'm an even worse empathy lacking hipster moron or something. But yeah, compassion for the less privileged is important.

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Going out to Sainsbury's in a bit, really excited that I'll be living on the streets for the 5 minute walk it'll take me to get there (I plan to get an Uber back) but feeling anxious about it too - I'm already beginning to understand what it feels like to be homeless.

Anyways, warm shower first to build up the courage. 

  On 1/15/2017 at 7:00 PM, Lane Visitor said:

 

goes for a trek in the desert, runs away from home as a teenager, goes solo backpacking

 

All three of these things are more or less the same, just things people do for fun, there is definitely no one that is unlike the others in some way.