Now That Trump's President... (not any more!)

  On 11/9/2016 at 6:38 PM, Squee said:

 

  On 11/9/2016 at 6:36 PM, A Reggae Lee Bowyer said:

I wonder how he's going to react to the comedy assault. snl, john oliver etc. We know what a massive fucking baby he is with stuff like that. He might force some of that shit off air.

 

Can he do that?

 

I would have thought that was the least of his power now

  On 11/9/2016 at 6:37 PM, omnii said:

I can't really wrap my mind around how anyone who is pro human could have elected this hateful television personality with no experience to be president.

It seems like a conclusion of deep pathological thinking in people to elect such a person. But then what if it wasn't a fair election? My optimism makes it easier to swallow fraud than the alternative, because both possibilities are absurd to me. The last thing I expected was trump to win popular vote.

There are sick belief systems at play here which is the most troubling thing to me.

What I'm truly concerned about is what the elites are going to respond with before January. Market crash? Assassination attempt? Nuclear war? It's all on the table. The fight is not over. It has just begun.

My predictions and assessment:

1) Trump will probably enact a lot of cookie-cutter republican policies, which as evidenced in years passed do not really serve us that well. Business is already doing well. CEO's are making record pay. Companies are making giant profits. Understanding how to turn the economy into one that serves low and middle class people is not something I think Trump understands or cares about. For example, his childcare policy was all tax subsidies, which never helps the people that need the most help. He has an understanding of large scale business, and that has never included the "little guy". In fact, he's gone out of his way on many occasions to get back at and destroy "the little guy". Do his feelings change now that he represents those people? Maybe. 

2) We have a fake economy. Trump could destroy that illusion, and it could be disastrous for all of us in the short term. In the long term it's probably for the best that it comes crashing down now, but it could get very ugly if it does. For instance, with the low interest rates we have now there's basically no available response if things get worse. Our economy has been very slowly rebounding. It takes a lot of intelligence and finesse to keep that going.

   a) big energy is probably going to get released to enjoy their last great surge of profits before we turn full green. ~5 years before this tide starts shifting majorly to renewable sources I think.

   b) big business, especially manufacturing, is going to feel huge growth. A ton of the places that support Trump did so, because their economies are dependent on manufacturing. If this is done intelligently it's not terrible for the USA, but if it's poorly executed it means we start resembling China.

3) This may be a blessing in disguise. It's at least a silver lining that the Dem Party tried to rig an election and failed. This is a good signal that you shouldn't stand in the way of the will of the people. That is very positive for all of us, because it disincentivizes corruption. Bernie is possibly the most important person in the Democratic Party now. Hopefully Hillary is cast aside completely. I'm not opposed to Trump bringing criminal charges against her. I'd like to see her, and the last two administrations punished. I'd like to see war crimes charges brought against Bush, Cheney, and Obama.  

4) Like I said before, not all of Trump's ideas are bad. If he keeps from turning into a fascist dictator, realizes the true gravity of his position, matures along the way, and rises to the occasion then we could see a lot of good. A lot of decent people voted for Trump, because they were tired of the establishment, and it had nothing to do with liking Trump. This is a similar reasoning to why decent people were also voting for Hillary.

5) The media has more or less completely discredited themselves, and more and more people realize this. This reduces their ability to stranglehold our ideas and perceptions. This is positive for all of us.

6) You don't want Trump to get assassinated. You definitely don't want Mike Pence running our country. It would an exactly copy of the Bush administration, which we all can see was terribly destructive for this country.

7) Anti-establishment sentiment is at an all time high. This is good for change. This means people are opening their minds and accepting new things.

8) If Trump focuses on infrastructure, which he has an interest in, being in construction and real estate, he could really help bring the country into being a hyper-modern super power. Could be sick as fuck having hyperloops, and bad ass transportation system everywhere.

9) Foreign policy is up in the fucking air. I can't even begin to analyze this. I'm not equipped nor knowledgeable enough to make any guesses at it.

I'm sure I'll think of more things later, but this is all I have for now.

  On 11/9/2016 at 6:36 PM, A Reggae Lee Bowyer said:

I wonder how he's going to react to the comedy assault. snl, john oliver etc. We know what a massive fucking baby he is with stuff like that. He might force some of that shit off air.

I wouldn't worry. He has a good sense of humor, and he likes attention.

  On 11/9/2016 at 6:48 PM, clarktrent said:

What I'm truly concerned about is what the elites are going to respond with before January. Market crash? Assassination attempt? Nuclear war? It's all on the table. The fight is not over. It has just begun.

The path of least resistance is to try and influence Trump and get in bed with him. Not to kill him.

I had to run some errands this morning.  Everyone I talked to is over the moon about the election.  And it seems to be a common theme that it wasn't so much they wanted to vote Trump into office, it was about their vitriol for Hillary Clinton.  Even women reflected this same sentiment.  It was equal to the experience I had heading into town the week after the Green Bay Packers won the superbowl.

We didn't get the president we needed (on any ticket); we got the president we deserve.

Ironically, with the Republicans now in (near) complete control, perhaps something will get done...

Who knows - he defied expectations getting running and getting elected; perhaps he'll do the same as president.

Trumps acceptance speech was pretty good. Defied my expectations. Although the nod to Guiliani should have been for Comey. ;-p

Also, interesting to point out, but Hillary won the popular vote, so without the insane electoral college thing Hillary would be our president.

  On 11/9/2016 at 2:03 PM, ThatSpanishGuy said:

This is great lol

  On 11/9/2016 at 7:08 PM, AdieuErsatzEnnui said:

Also, interesting to point out, but Hillary won the popular vote, so without the insane electoral college thing Hillary would be our president.

Not all states have been called yet, we're not sure yet.

EDIT: Also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-igkna5RwuE

I'm not watching the electoral college thing. Definitely not watching info wars.

It should only be about popular vote. Electoral college is just another way for the parties to more easily control elections. Just like the primary system.

I wonder if the two party system is dead after this. 

  On 11/9/2016 at 7:12 PM, AdieuErsatzEnnui said:

I'm not watching the electoral college thing. Definitely not watching info wars.

 

It should only be about popular vote. Electoral college is just another way for the parties to more easily control elections. Just like the primary system.

It's a way to protect the rural communities from the major cities in terms of voter representation. It's the only thing saving the balance between local, state, and federal government. We are a republic, not democracy (mob rule).

  On 11/9/2016 at 6:38 PM, Squee said:

 

  On 11/9/2016 at 6:36 PM, A Reggae Lee Bowyer said:

I wonder how he's going to react to the comedy assault. snl, john oliver etc. We know what a massive fucking baby he is with stuff like that. He might force some of that shit off air.

 

Can he do that?

 

i hope so. 

This overreaction is so fucking ridiculous. EVERYONE I DON'T LIKE IS LITERALLLLY HITLER!!!!

No. As alive as ever.

Trump's just going to be another Reagan. A reality-TV poster-face doing the ceremonial stuff and support from regular politicians feeding the executive branch.

Plus, GOP has to show responsibility by actually doing stuff again. So the obstructivism of esp. the freedom-caucus - or whatever the hell its name - is a no-go. I don't believe the Dems will go into obstr. mode. Although you never know. There's still some hot button issues like climate and income inequality. And obamacare even.

edit: @candiru

Obamacare brought the uninsured rate from 18% to 8% so handling that process poorly is going to result in a lot of backlash.

  On 11/9/2016 at 7:15 PM, clarktrent said:

 

  On 11/9/2016 at 7:12 PM, AdieuErsatzEnnui said:

I'm not watching the electoral college thing. Definitely not watching info wars.

 

It should only be about popular vote. Electoral college is just another way for the parties to more easily control elections. Just like the primary system.

It's a way to protect the rural communities from the major cities in terms of voter representation. It's the only thing saving the balance between local, state, and federal government. We are a republic, not democracy (mob rule).

 

rofl nice characterization

  On 11/9/2016 at 7:20 PM, goDel said:

Trump's just going to be another Reagan. A reality-TV poster-face doing the ceremonial stuff and support from regular politicians feeding the executive branch.

I can see that. I don't get the whole conservative Reagan worship, he never really did all that much. In fact, a lot of his positions were quite liberal. He talked a big game and had a good face but that's mostly it.

There is one thing though, Reagan had to fight a blue house and senate whereas Trump has total unity. Now there are so many neocons in the house and senate that I'm not sure how much they'll actually let through.

  On 11/9/2016 at 7:24 PM, clarktrent said:

 

  On 11/9/2016 at 7:20 PM, goDel said:

Trump's just going to be another Reagan. A reality-TV poster-face doing the ceremonial stuff and support from regular politicians feeding the executive branch.

I can see that. I don't get the whole conservative Reagan worship, he never really did all that much. In fact, a lot of his positions were quite liberal. He talked a big game and had a good face but that's mostly it.

 

There is one thing though, Reagan had to fight a blue house and senate whereas Trump has total unity. Now there are so many neocons in the house and senate that I'm not sure how much they'll actually let through.

 

With respect to the power within the GOP, I can hardly come to any other conclusion that it's now Trumps party. And Trump may be orange, but he's not Boehmer. If there's someone who could get the gop back in line (the freedom caucus), it's Trump, imo. The old establishment, the Bushes and the Romney's and all, will fall back in line the minute new policies will need to be made. They're too responsible not to work with the new establishment. And the freedom caucus, well, they now have the uber-anti-establishment candidate at the top. I don't see them competing with trump.

Only exception might be cruz. But he's from a different planet so who knows. He might phone home like ET.

nm

so, marco rubio is senator of florida. where's sarah palin?

and drumpf gets to choose the next two supreme court judges

edit: damn, 8 hour vaporwave election footage extravaganza blocked by fox news on copyrightgrounds....TRUMP HATES VAPORWAVE!

  On 11/9/2016 at 7:29 PM, xxx said:

I am in a unique position since I live in Ground Zero of Trump support. As such, I am able to deliver fresh and authentic goods from the Trump base thanks to social media. This one is just 3 hours old

EDIT: well I don't know why the linking is being such a ball ache. Attachment instead

lol this is like 5 sentences morphed into one

This is really fucked up but so far nothing has stopped me eating a massive bag of twiglets and playing football manager in my pants.

  On 11/9/2016 at 6:19 PM, goDel said:

my silver lining is that the actual political machine is so weirded out by the prospect of Trump, that they have to start to cooperate with each other. or else they'll face someone pushing chaos down from the top. and at least he is a-political and up front about being an a-hole.

 

edit: climate is f-cked though ...or as they said in WWII: FUBAR

My hope is he is clueless to the point where he goes to his default of hiring smart people and taking the credit. GOP moderate technocrats are probably scrambling as we speak to get in his admin.

  On 11/9/2016 at 6:39 PM, A Reggae Lee Bowyer said:

 

  On 11/9/2016 at 6:38 PM, Squee said:

 

  On 11/9/2016 at 6:36 PM, A Reggae Lee Bowyer said:

I wonder how he's going to react to the comedy assault. snl, john oliver etc. We know what a massive fucking baby he is with stuff like that. He might force some of that shit off air.

 

Can he do that?

 

 

I would have thought that was the least of his power now

 

It's not. But a lot of smart tired people are going to have to explain to him like he's 5 why that's impossible and morally wrong to do as a president.

  On 11/9/2016 at 7:13 PM, Candiru said:

I wonder if the two party system is dead after this. 

He's an authoritarian. It's going through the biggest test since the civil war essentially...hopefully without anything close to that violence and mayhem

  On 11/9/2016 at 8:03 PM, Nebraska said:

so, marco rubio is senator of florida. where's sarah palin?

and drumpf gets to choose the next two supreme court judges

parah salin'

  On 11/9/2016 at 8:18 PM, azatoth said:

edit: damn, 8 hour vaporwave election footage extravaganza blocked by fox news on copyrightgrounds....TRUMP HATES VAPORWAVE!

hahahaha of course he would