Now That Trump's President... (not any more!)

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Well that's why the goal is to move the overton window. Make political discourse in general more conservative. What's one way to do this? Frame left wing as extremist PC culture. 

 

I listened to a podcast by a former neo-nazi some time back, where he explains the new method is to be subtle. You know, Instead of becoming a skin-head, wear a suit and tie. Basically re-frame racism into something palpable for the masses instead of lynching or whatever.

 

I'm not pointing to one single trajectory or thing causing more conservatism, but a whole bundle of trajectories coming from different movements that are indeed pushing the window right.

 

Seeing youtube so dominated by right wing just worries me. btw sorry if there's any incoherence, I'm tired.

Where are you looking for your information? If you listen to podcasts like that, please don't be surprised you change your outlook on the world because of it. If you focus on the right, you see the right.

I haven't seen this domination on youtube, although I have seen some clips with a fair amount of right-wing activity. And I'm sure there's plenty of nonsense if you jump in that rabbit-hole. On the left, btw, you have an endless stream of white guys doing some form of TYT. Giving comments on how ridiculous FOX is. It's all equally insane, imo.

Don't jump into those social media rabbit holes if you want to keep sane. Choose your info. If you jump in, you'll only help making it bigger. You generate clicks and support it.

  On 2/10/2019 at 8:44 AM, Braintree said:

It's strange that you can get stuck in a loop of alt-right videos by clicking on the wrong video game video, but you never get caught in an extremist liberal loop.

 

This seems to be by design, not ideologically but in terms of tech: facebook, youtube, twitter, their goal is to increase 'user engagement' - which seems to mean they want to keep users inside the app for as long as possible so that data can be collected and ad views/revenue can be optimized. This incentivizes the wrong aspects of human social behavior and individual responses to stimuli (i.e. negative emotion gets rewarded): you are more likely to stay 'user engaged' if the content is inspiring resentment, fear, paranoia, outrage, etc. There were some studies which showed that if you clicked on a youtube video that featured reasonable conservative commentary, then autoplay would, about 15 videos later if untouched, be showing you the more extreme and exaggerated form of such commentary in order to keep you 'engaged.' So you select a David Brooks video and then 15 videos later you got some neo-nazi stuff, etc. https://www.tubefilter.com/2018/12/03/youtube-boost-video-engagement-home-autoplay/ looks like from this story that possible solutions are being examined by YouTube at least.

This is a serious problem, I would imagine, for young people who do not have access to proper education and do not know how to act as their own filters on the internet. 

Months after watching one video of Jordan Petersen on CH4 news, youtube was still suggesting bullshit 'Ben Shapiro OWNS the libs' type videos. If you start clicking on those in turn who knows how far down the rabbit hole you can go.

  On 2/10/2019 at 12:55 PM, danshoebridge said:

Months after watching one video of Jordan Petersen on CH4 news, youtube was still suggesting bullshit 'Ben Shapiro OWNS the libs' type videos. If you start clicking on those in turn who knows how far down the rabbit hole you can go.

Stay signed out of chrome whenever possible, helps minimize that kinda stuff

That's an interesting idea about keeping users engaged, but wouldn't videos of ultra liberalism also incite the same response from people on the right? Following your example, you should be able to watch one video on Robert Sapolsky and eventually end up at videos supporting socialism/communism. In my experience, you have to manually dig deeper in order to see those things.

  On 2/10/2019 at 12:56 PM, psn said:

welcome to algorithmic world. if you know/understand the algorithm, you could game it and influence what others get recommended. do it massively and you can change society. 

thanks putin!

  On 2/10/2019 at 12:55 PM, danshoebridge said:

Months after watching one video of Jordan Petersen on CH4 news, youtube was still suggesting bullshit 'Ben Shapiro OWNS the libs' type videos. If you start clicking on those in turn who knows how far down the rabbit hole you can go.

I've had similar issues with PragerU, CRTV, and Donald Trump ads popping up. But in the last couple of weeks I've found myself watching fewer videos in general. Political fatigue has taken its toll, but at the same time I need to stay informed on current events at the very least. At this point I care less about what people think, and more about what people know.

reddit's left/right bias depends entirely on which subreddits you are in.  other social media like 4chan is almost entirely extremist right wing.  if you go through more obscure left-leaning videos on youtube the comments also mostly lean left, but the exceptions are when a video became popular on other right-leaning websites in which case the comments are completely brigaded by racist poltards

interesting article on nyt on the vents in the manafort case

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/10/us/politics/manafort-mueller-russia-inquiry.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

reads like scenes from a movie. and def. feel like they're building up to a larger case. trump is a target...

  On 2/11/2019 at 2:12 AM, Zeffolia said:

reddit's left/right bias depends entirely on which subreddits you are in.  other social media like 4chan is almost entirely extremist right wing.  if you go through more obscure left-leaning videos on youtube the comments also mostly lean left, but the exceptions are when a video became popular on other right-leaning websites in which case the comments are completely brigaded by racist poltards

this, def if u only seeing one side then u gotta check where u at.. or probs better just leave the internet for a while

It's donnie v. Beto out in west Texas tonight:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/trump-beto-o-rourke-el-paso-texas-wall-n970256

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"We have a line that is very long already, I'm mean you see what's going on," Trump told reporters in Washington before departing for Texas, referring to people waiting to get into his "Make America Great Again" campaign rally. "And I understand our competitor's got a line too, but it's a tiny little line. Of course (the media) make it sound like they have more people than we do. That's not going to happen.”

You hear that all you left wing pinkos!!!! YOU'VE GOT A TINY LITTLE LINE

ha.. spectacle. awesome. little donnie loves this shit. 

  On 2/11/2019 at 7:44 PM, goDel said:

interesting article on nyt on the vents in the manafort case

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/10/us/politics/manafort-mueller-russia-inquiry.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

 

reads like scenes from a movie. and def. feel like they're building up to a larger case. trump is a target...

that is a good article. it does feel like that. they are. he is.

Individual 1 has been fairly quiet lately, hasn't he?

  On 2/11/2019 at 11:46 PM, zero said:

It's donnie v. Beto out in west Texas tonight:

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/trump-beto-o-rourke-el-paso-texas-wall-n970256

 

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"We have a line that is very long already, I'm mean you see what's going on," Trump told reporters in Washington before departing for Texas, referring to people waiting to get into his "Make America Great Again" campaign rally. "And I understand our competitor's got a line too, but it's a tiny little line. Of course (the media) make it sound like they have more people than we do. That's not going to happen.”

 

 

You hear that all you left wing pinkos!!!! YOU'VE GOT A TINY LITTLE LINE

https://theweek.com/speedreads/823268/trump-seemed-interested-beto-orourkes-evidently-larger-crowd-during-el-paso-rally

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Trump's audience inside the coliseum was 6,500, at capacity, El Paso Fire Department public information officer Enrique Aguilar told the El Paso Times. "It might be 10,000 with the people outside," watching on monitors. The rally O'Rourke spoke at, following a mile-long march, drew at least 7,000 people, The Texas Tribunereports. Bloomberg's Jennifer Epstein says that's an undercount:

 

El Paso police estimate a crowd of 10,000 to 15,000 for the anti-Trump, anti-wall, pro-O’Rourke march and rally tonight.

— Jennifer Epstein (@jeneps) February 12, 2019

https://twitter.com/JakeJarvisWV/status/1094823914973421568

Because he must boil them before eating them. He'd eat them if they were straight too, he's just a fat fuck and it's what he does

remember that time when conservatives were so pissed about kapernick being the face of nike they started burning their sneakers? one store owner just decided not to sell any nike products. unfortunately this backfired and now he's closing his store. the end

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/429868-colorado-store-forced-to-close-after-removing-nike-merchandise 

also: how's this for a dumb analogy?

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  On 2/14/2019 at 1:32 AM, Nebraska said:

remember that time when conservatives were so pissed about kapernick being the face of nike they started burning their sneakers? one store owner just decided not to sell any nike products. unfortunately this backfired and now he's closing his store. the end

 

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/429868-colorado-store-forced-to-close-after-removing-nike-merchandise 

 

 

lol

perfect

I'm gonna go take a nap. Wake me up when this entire shit storm has passed.

Ted Cruz wants to use El Chapo's seized money to build the wall, lol

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ted-cruz-says-billions-assets-043249779.html

  On 2/13/2019 at 2:38 AM, Nebraska said:

https://twitter.com/JakeJarvisWV/status/1094823914973421568

Del. Porterfield looks like Rob Ford

trump is gonna sign the bill funding the gov't and avoiding the shutdown but is also going to declare a national emergency. 

this fucking guy needs to get rolled up in a rug and dumped in a ditch.