Now That Trump's President... (not any more!)

previous link quoted is from bloomberg shows clinton raised and spent more than double what trump raised + spent

 

before that is this link, that shows clinton and trump tied.

 

you're right, clinton isn't losing, but this isn't the position she should be in considering that she's a politician, she's got the name recognition, she's raising and spending double what trump is etc.

she's comfortably ahead in the polls. even more so if you exclude the known-to-be-biased rasmussen polls (pretty much the only ones ever to have had trump ahead, aside from a single fox poll, and a single abc poll months ago).

  On 7/22/2016 at 8:24 PM, caze said:

 

  On 7/22/2016 at 7:34 PM, Ayya Khema said:

 

  On 7/22/2016 at 5:37 AM, yek said:

watching trump on tv at this moment. the guy has been talking nonstop for over 30 minutes now, things that he will do as president. i find it even funnier the people in the audience who believe everything that comes out of the guy's mouth. i'm not an american but i'm fucking scared of him.

but your not scared of hillary with blood already on her hands, with tons of proven illegal actions and corruption?

 

 

what proven illegal actions and corruption are you referring to? if there was tons of proven bad shit around you'd think all those republican witch-hunts would have found some of them.

 

proven does not mean brought to justice. god bless america justice department.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?_r=0

http://www.namebase.net/news01.html

http://www.prorev.com/hillaryfriends.htm

http://prorev.com/hillary.htm

http://prorev.com/connex.htm

http://prorev.com/connex2.htm

 

hillary have blood on her hands.

  On 7/23/2016 at 12:19 AM, Ayya Khema said:

 

  On 7/22/2016 at 8:24 PM, caze said:

 

  On 7/22/2016 at 7:34 PM, Ayya Khema said:

 

  On 7/22/2016 at 5:37 AM, yek said:

watching trump on tv at this moment. the guy has been talking nonstop for over 30 minutes now, things that he will do as president. i find it even funnier the people in the audience who believe everything that comes out of the guy's mouth. i'm not an american but i'm fucking scared of him.

but your not scared of hillary with blood already on her hands, with tons of proven illegal actions and corruption?

 

 

what proven illegal actions and corruption are you referring to? if there was tons of proven bad shit around you'd think all those republican witch-hunts would have found some of them.

 

proven does not mean brought to justice. god bless america justice department.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?_r=0

http://www.namebase.net/news01.html

http://www.prorev.com/hillaryfriends.htm

http://prorev.com/hillary.htm

http://prorev.com/connex.htm

http://prorev.com/connex2.htm

 

hillary have blood on her hands.

 

 

I'm not trawling through that paranoid dreck, name a single illegal thing she has done?

White hot sphere of rage - onion wins.

https://youtu.be/0WTltfYfD5g

wonder how much affect this kind of insider news will have.. not that this wasn't obvious to many voters.

 

https://theintercept.com/2016/07/22/dnc-staffers-mocked-the-bernie-sanders-campaign-leaked-emails-show/

 

"A NEW TROVE of internal Democratic National Committee emails, stretching back to April 2016, released by Wikileaks show that the organization’s senior staff chafed at Bernie Sanders’s continued presence in the presidential primary. Staffers were also irritated by criticism that they were biased towards Hillary Clinton."

Edited July 23, 2016 by ignatius

  On 7/23/2016 at 12:29 AM, caze said:

 

  On 7/23/2016 at 12:19 AM, Ayya Khema said:

 

  On 7/22/2016 at 8:24 PM, caze said:

 

  On 7/22/2016 at 7:34 PM, Ayya Khema said:

 

  On 7/22/2016 at 5:37 AM, yek said:

watching trump on tv at this moment. the guy has been talking nonstop for over 30 minutes now, things that he will do as president. i find it even funnier the people in the audience who believe everything that comes out of the guy's mouth. i'm not an american but i'm fucking scared of him.

but your not scared of hillary with blood already on her hands, with tons of proven illegal actions and corruption?

 

 

what proven illegal actions and corruption are you referring to? if there was tons of proven bad shit around you'd think all those republican witch-hunts would have found some of them.

 

proven does not mean brought to justice. god bless america justice department.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?_r=0

http://www.namebase.net/news01.html

http://www.prorev.com/hillaryfriends.htm

http://prorev.com/hillary.htm

http://prorev.com/connex.htm

http://prorev.com/connex2.htm

 

hillary have blood on her hands.

 

 

I'm not trawling through that paranoid dreck, name a single illegal thing she has done?

 

you serious?

It breaks my heart what the DNC has done to Bernie, they fucked him in the ass then forced him to endorse a she demon, now that orange cunt demon will be president and from there things become uncertain.

Bernie would have wiped the floor with trump :(:(

 

good luck to us all!

Edited July 23, 2016 by Deer

  On 7/23/2016 at 1:18 AM, Ayya Khema said:

 

  On 7/23/2016 at 12:29 AM, caze said:

 

  On 7/23/2016 at 12:19 AM, Ayya Khema said:

 

  On 7/22/2016 at 8:24 PM, caze said:

 

  On 7/22/2016 at 7:34 PM, Ayya Khema said:

 

  On 7/22/2016 at 5:37 AM, yek said:

watching trump on tv at this moment. the guy has been talking nonstop for over 30 minutes now, things that he will do as president. i find it even funnier the people in the audience who believe everything that comes out of the guy's mouth. i'm not an american but i'm fucking scared of him.

but your not scared of hillary with blood already on her hands, with tons of proven illegal actions and corruption?

 

 

what proven illegal actions and corruption are you referring to? if there was tons of proven bad shit around you'd think all those republican witch-hunts would have found some of them.

 

proven does not mean brought to justice. god bless america justice department.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?_r=0

http://www.namebase.net/news01.html

http://www.prorev.com/hillaryfriends.htm

http://prorev.com/hillary.htm

http://prorev.com/connex.htm

http://prorev.com/connex2.htm

 

hillary have blood on her hands.

 

 

I'm not trawling through that paranoid dreck, name a single illegal thing she has done?

 

you serious?

 

 

yes. I mean the email thing was against the state department rules, but wasn't actually illegal. was there something else?

  On 7/23/2016 at 1:39 AM, Deer said:

It breaks my heart what the DNC has done to Bernie, they fucked him in the ass then forced him to endorse a she demon, now that orange cunt demon will be president and from there things become uncertain.

Bernie would have wiped the floor with trump :(:(

 

good luck to us all!

 

bernie wouldn't have wiped the floor with trump any more than clinton will.

  On 7/23/2016 at 2:13 AM, osobjornmedved said:

 

  On 7/23/2016 at 1:39 AM, Deer said:

It breaks my heart what the DNC has done to Bernie, they fucked him in the ass then forced him to endorse a she demon, now that orange cunt demon will be president and from there things become uncertain.

Bernie would have wiped the floor with trump :(:(

 

good luck to us all!

 

heartbreaking and infuriating

 

 

not really, sanders supporters treated them all like shit, not surprising they weren't their biggest friends.

Edited July 23, 2016 by caze

clinton selects tim kaine as running mate

 

 

she totally screwed warren

Ouch. Warren is the only thing that could have made H. appealing to me.

  On 7/23/2016 at 2:42 AM, doublename said:

Ouch. Warren is the only thing that could have made H. appealing to me.

 

i'm kind of glad she didn't pick warren for VP as i didn't want to see her get caught up in hillary's web of bullshit and then she'd have a cloud over her that would be tough to shake off down the road. this way she stays clean and can keep fighting the good fight and align herself with the progressives for the next goaround.

  On 7/23/2016 at 2:42 AM, doublename said:

Ouch. Warren is the only thing that could have made H. appealing to me.

 

yeah, but if you remember, when the presidential race began warren wouldn't endorse anyone and it wasn't until it was obvious that trump was going to the win the republican nomination that she suddenly became so vocal.

warren was never in the running, I doubt she even wanted it.

  On 7/23/2016 at 2:59 AM, caze said:

warren was never in the running, I doubt she even wanted it.

 

i have a feeling we're not watching the same election race

  On 7/23/2016 at 3:01 AM, Nebraska said:

 

  On 7/23/2016 at 2:59 AM, caze said:

warren was never in the running, I doubt she even wanted it.

 

i have a feeling we're not watching the same election race

 

 

We're watching the same race, you're just not paying attention. Did you even read the article you just linked? To summarise: that speech made that journalist think she had a chance, despite the fact that most people think she didn't, he links and quotes lots of people backing up the fact that she's not in the running, but speculates (based on nothing in particular) that they're all wrong. Turns out everyone else was right all along.

  On 7/23/2016 at 3:10 AM, caze said:

 

  On 7/23/2016 at 3:01 AM, Nebraska said:

 

  On 7/23/2016 at 2:59 AM, caze said:

warren was never in the running, I doubt she even wanted it.

i have a feeling we're not watching the same election race

We're watching the same race, you're just not paying attention. Did you even read the article you just linked? To summarise: that speech made that journalist think she had a chance, despite the fact that most people think she didn't, he links and quotes lots of people backing up the fact that she's not in the running, but speculates (based on nothing in particular) that they're all wrong. Turns out everyone else was right all along.

lol it's funny because I have been paying attention and his speculation is similar to how I, and numerous pundits thought. there was definitely nothing concrete about Warren being a VP frontrunner, I suppose it was (in some way) a best case scenario wishful thinking.

 

tbh I feel very removed from this race everyday because everything that doesn't make sense to me seems to always happen eg. I have no idea who Tim Kaine is

 

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  On 7/23/2016 at 2:06 AM, caze said:

 

  On 7/23/2016 at 1:18 AM, Ayya Khema said:

 

  On 7/23/2016 at 12:29 AM, caze said:

 

  On 7/23/2016 at 12:19 AM, Ayya Khema said:

 

  On 7/22/2016 at 8:24 PM, caze said:

 

  On 7/22/2016 at 7:34 PM, Ayya Khema said:

 

  On 7/22/2016 at 5:37 AM, yek said:

watching trump on tv at this moment. the guy has been talking nonstop for over 30 minutes now, things that he will do as president. i find it even funnier the people in the audience who believe everything that comes out of the guy's mouth. i'm not an american but i'm fucking scared of him.

but your not scared of hillary with blood already on her hands, with tons of proven illegal actions and corruption?

what proven illegal actions and corruption are you referring to? if there was tons of proven bad shit around you'd think all those republican witch-hunts would have found some of them.

proven does not mean brought to justice. god bless america justice department.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?_r=0

http://www.namebase.net/news01.html

http://www.prorev.com/hillaryfriends.htm

http://prorev.com/hillary.htm

http://prorev.com/connex.htm

http://prorev.com/connex2.htm

 

hillary have blood on her hands.

I'm not trawling through that paranoid dreck, name a single illegal thing she has done?

you serious?

yes. I mean the email thing was against the state department rules, but wasn't actually illegal. was there something else?

uh, i do believe she wiped the servers with a cloth.

  On 7/23/2016 at 3:21 AM, Nebraska said:

 

  On 7/23/2016 at 3:10 AM, caze said:

 

  On 7/23/2016 at 3:01 AM, Nebraska said:

 

  On 7/23/2016 at 2:59 AM, caze said:

warren was never in the running, I doubt she even wanted it.

i have a feeling we're not watching the same election race

We're watching the same race, you're just not paying attention. Did you even read the article you just linked? To summarise: that speech made that journalist think she had a chance, despite the fact that most people think she didn't, he links and quotes lots of people backing up the fact that she's not in the running, but speculates (based on nothing in particular) that they're all wrong. Turns out everyone else was right all along.

lol it's funny because I have been paying attention and his speculation is similar to how I, and numerous pundits thought. there was definitely nothing concrete about Warren being a VP frontrunner, I suppose it was (in some way) a best case scenario wishful thinking.

 

tbh I feel very removed from this race everyday because everything that doesn't make sense to me seems to always happen eg. I have no idea who Tim Kaine is

 

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the governor/senator of va?

 

why do people who know literally nothing about politics feel the need to chime in with their analysis? lightweights itt

  On 7/23/2016 at 3:22 AM, osobjornmedved said:

Election fraud without exit polls: why "debunkings" are insufficient

 

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Here is an example of what electronic vote manipulation looks like, from the 2012 paper on Romney:

This graph has precinct size on the bottom axis and vote share on the left axis. This is actual votes; there are no exit polls involved. Note that there is a direct correlation between Romney’s share of the vote and the precinct size, and an inverse correlation between Santorum’s share and his precinct size. One would never expect this from natural results; they would be about even, like the flat horizontal lines of the bottom few candidates.

 

Here is the same graph with respect to Clinton and Sanders in Massachusetts:

Note the variability among smaller precincts, straightening out into linearity in the larger ones.

 

 

 

The election was rigged.

 

nope.

 

first of all, none of those seven points provide any evidence of any vote rigging, not even circumstantial evidence. it's little more than paranoia, things that possibly could have happened, in theory. mostly though if you really wanted to it's pretty easy in theory to rig any election, electronic voting doesn't actually make it all that easier.

 

the graphs don't provide any evidence of fraud either.

 

there were no proper exit polls done in the democratic primaries, the exit polling done was not done in a way to track the simple question of who voted for who, it was far more questionnaire based, i.e. they were trying to dig up more detailed demographic info, and as a result the margins of error were far higher than you would get with a much simpler system. it wasn't the kind of fraud check you usually want in a general election exit poll.

 

finally, and most importantly the pre election polls (done by multiple independent companies) pretty closely matched the results, bar a couple of states, and most of the discrepancies were states that Sanders actually won (Michigan in particular).

 

simple fraud checking exit polling is a good idea though, and should be carried out as a check to stop the paranoid ramblings of people if for nothing else.

His signature is piss poor -

 

Edited July 23, 2016 by doublename

  On 7/23/2016 at 3:42 AM, keanu reeves said:

 

  On 7/23/2016 at 3:21 AM, Nebraska said:

 

  On 7/23/2016 at 3:10 AM, caze said:

 

  On 7/23/2016 at 3:01 AM, Nebraska said:

 

  On 7/23/2016 at 2:59 AM, caze said:

warren was never in the running, I doubt she even wanted it.

i have a feeling we're not watching the same election race

We're watching the same race, you're just not paying attention. Did you even read the article you just linked? To summarise: that speech made that journalist think she had a chance, despite the fact that most people think she didn't, he links and quotes lots of people backing up the fact that she's not in the running, but speculates (based on nothing in particular) that they're all wrong. Turns out everyone else was right all along.

lol it's funny because I have been paying attention and his speculation is similar to how I, and numerous pundits thought. there was definitely nothing concrete about Warren being a VP frontrunner, I suppose it was (in some way) a best case scenario wishful thinking.

 

tbh I feel very removed from this race everyday because everything that doesn't make sense to me seems to always happen eg. I have no idea who Tim Kaine is

 

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the governor/senator of va?

 

why do people who know literally nothing about politics feel the need to chime in with their analysis? lightweights itt

good question.

 

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Kaine seems like a good choice, should be particularly good in shoring up the idiot middle aged male vote distrustful of Clinton for various paranoid reasons (less so of the super-idealistic young idiot male paranoid vote, but most of these guys will probably be too stoned to remember to vote in the first place). He's a bit boring, but that's probably no bad thing given the personalities of all the rest of the candidates, especially that nasty cunt Pence. He'll totally lock down the hispanic and black votes as well, not that there was much problem there, and ensure Virginia stays with the dems, which will likely ensure Clinton another democratic landslide. Brooker would have been an interesting choice, but probably too inexperienced. Vilsack gives you all the dullness of Kaine (more probably), without many of the positives (aside from helping in Iowa, which has more EC votes than Virginia, and other midwest states perhaps - Trump is still viewed incredibly negatively there though, far more so than Clinton). The other two hispanic choices would have provided some fun in the campaign, keeping Trump babbling about his dumb wall the whole time.

  On 7/23/2016 at 3:48 AM, osobjornmedved said:

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Edited July 23, 2016 by caze