Now That Trump's President... (not any more!)

  On 2/7/2020 at 3:37 PM, Rubin Farr said:

 But the smart people know better, huh.

How many people voted for Trump again?

  On 2/7/2020 at 4:17 PM, Squee said:

How many people voted for Trump again?

3 million less than voted for Hillary.

  On 2/7/2020 at 4:50 PM, Rubin Farr said:

3 million less than voted for Hillary.

And somehow he's the president now. The US is so fucking fucked, haha.

  On 2/7/2020 at 12:15 AM, zero said:

Since I wasn't able to make it through all 80 minutes, missed this state of the union nugget that we're gonna bring the MAGA lovin shit show to Mars...wouldn't surprise me if the Mars flag has donnie's signature scribbled all over it, or maybe a MAGA pin or Trump International logo tacked on.

 

 

  On 2/7/2020 at 12:15 AM, zero said:

 

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"In reaffirming our heritage as a free nation, we must remember that America has always been a frontier nation. Now we must embrace the next frontier: America's manifest destiny in the stars," Trump said during last night's speech. "I am asking Congress to fully fund the Artemis program to ensure that the next man and first woman on the moon will be American astronauts, using this as a launching pad to ensure that America is the first nation to plant its flag on Mars."

 

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Wait, what? Did he actually use the term "manifest destiny"? FFS 

Wow lol just wow

he should have just thrown the term American space crusades in for good measure, or something equally as loaded

  On 2/7/2020 at 4:58 PM, Squee said:

And somehow he's the president now. The US is so fucking fucked, haha.

Right? It doesn't stop baffling me how obviously fucked and corrupt the political system in the US is yet there are still people thinking it's the epitome of freedom and democracy. I feel bad for all Americans that they can't enjoy the advantages of the European systems (which of course are fucked the same way but to a lesser extend).

  On 2/7/2020 at 5:17 PM, darreichungsform said:

Right? It doesn't stop baffling me how obviously fucked and corrupt the political system in the US is yet there are still people thinking it's the epitome of freedom and democracy. I feel bad for all Americans that they can't enjoy the advantages of the European systems (which of course are fucked the same way but to a lesser extend).

that's willful ignorance. a lot of people purposely ignore the corruption because they view themselves as being rich and privileged but just temporarily down on their luck.

Today's batshit developments:

Republicans float the idea of an effort to "expunge" Trump's impeachment from history, if they regain the House in 2020

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-expunge-house-republican-win-kevin-mccarthy-nancy-pelosi-a9320291.html

Trump claims Pelosi tearing up his speech was "illegal"

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/482016-trump-pelosi-ripping-speech-very-disrespectful-and-very-illegal

Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman fired and escorted from White House.  His brother also fired from his job at NSC

https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-house-weighs-ouster-aide-031328567.html

Sounds like the GOP are on the path to totalitarianism. But they don't get it. One can't just rewrite history.

I really don't think it was a good idea to impeach Trump without knowing that it would almost certainly pass in the senate. Now his approval numbers are higher than they've ever been, and the narrative surely now is that Trump has been proven innocent in some way, even though though the outcome is solely based on the fact there wasn't enough democrats in order to pass. 

  On 2/7/2020 at 5:17 PM, darreichungsform said:

Right? It doesn't stop baffling me how obviously fucked and corrupt the political system in the US is yet there are still people thinking it's the epitome of freedom and democracy. I feel bad for all Americans that they can't enjoy the advantages of the European systems (which of course are fucked the same way but to a lesser extend).

The same type of people who fall for televangelists and wear these red clown hats with slogans on them.

  On 2/7/2020 at 7:09 PM, ignatius said:

 

 

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Lie lie lie, lie lie lie, lie lie lie...

I wouldn't be surprised to see Romney go independent.  Don't Mormons kind of see themselves as independent anyway?  His allegiance is obviously to his religion over politics, I respect that even though I'm a non believer.

  On 2/8/2020 at 1:10 AM, Rubin Farr said:

I wouldn't be surprised to see Romney go independent.  Don't Mormons kind of see themselves as independent anyway?  His allegiance is obviously to his religion over politics, I respect that even though I'm a non believer.

Yeah there was Evan McMullin, who ran for president in 2016 as an independent. He's a Mormon from Utah and even got 21.5% of the vote in that state. 

  On 2/7/2020 at 11:47 PM, Brisbot said:

I really don't think it was a good idea to impeach Trump without knowing that it would almost certainly pass in the senate. Now his approval numbers are higher than they've ever been, and the narrative surely now is that Trump has been proven innocent in some way, even though though the outcome is solely based on the fact there wasn't enough democrats in order to pass. 

The same type of people who fall for televangelists and wear these red clown hats with slogans on them.

House Dems were in a "damned if we do, damned if we don't" situation with impeachment. If they didn't impeach, then they ran the risk of enabling Trump, effectively granting him completely free reign. thereby appearing totally weak to Democratic voters. But I'm sure that Pelosi and other Dems in the House were keenly aware that an impeachment attempt could get shot down under a Republican senate majority even before they pulled the trigger. They made the decision knowing that the odds were against them, but their primary focus was to uphold the Constitution.

Doesn't mean all is lost though. Trump's acquittal was a blatant obstruction of justice, even if his supporters are completely blind to it. If he does indeed get re-elected but Dems hold the House and gain Senate control, then a second round of impeachment is almost guaranteed. A lot can happen in the next nine months though.

The way they are unapolageticly reveling in their victory, while playing the victims with righteous indignation, I think will rub a lot of the electorate the wrong way.  There is a large portion of the electorate who are centrists, independent, or swing voters.  Their base will not get them re-elected alone.

  On 2/8/2020 at 2:09 AM, Rubin Farr said:

The way they are unapolageticly reveling in their victory, while playing the victims with righteous indignation, I think will rub a lot of the electorate the wrong way.  There is a large portion of the electorate who are centrists, independent, or swing voters.  Their base will not get them re-elected alone.

but it's like a big handjob to their base. really.. these people love to gloat. they're probably thinking of hillary sadface right now and spanking it on the couch walking fox news and having BBQs this weekend. 

  On 2/8/2020 at 2:16 AM, ignatius said:

but it's like a big handjob to their base. really.. these people love to gloat. they're probably thinking of hillary sadface right now and spanking it on the couch walking fox news and having BBQs this weekend. 

dry-rub treasoning 

  On 2/8/2020 at 3:11 AM, auxien said:

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Ambassador Gordon Sondland fired:

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/trump-fires-gordon-sondland-impeachment-000052727.html

  On 2/8/2020 at 3:12 AM, Hugh Mughnus said:

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  On 2/8/2020 at 3:50 AM, Candiru said:

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  On 2/8/2020 at 3:55 AM, Rubin Farr said:

 

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