caze Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 On 7/26/2017 at 5:28 PM, Sally Vingoe said: note the nature of the studies - in vitro/ model animals not saying that cannabinoids may not have some benefit, and they might even be great adjuncts to traditional treatments - but meanwhile, in the real world, with the iterative development of conventional chemotherapy treatments; http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/leukemia-childhood-survival-1.4066589 yep, having a positive result in a test tube is no big deal really, there are numerous substances that will kill a cancer cell like that, getting it to work in an actual patient is a whole other thing. and results with rodents rarely actually translate into humans, especially when it comes to cancer. there's been no large scale studies at all showing positive results from treating cancer with cannabinoids. there is lots of good research showing it works with preventing nausea, relief from chronic pain and as a multiple sclerosis treatment, but that's about it. there was a big meta study that came out this year and that's the conclusion they came to. https://www.nap.edu/read/24625/chapter/2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92920-what-if-i-told-you/page/19/#findComment-2565604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavieAddison Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 On 7/26/2017 at 5:27 PM, BoomTssPhace said: On 7/26/2017 at 5:02 PM, DavieAddison said: On 7/26/2017 at 4:03 PM, BoomTssPhace said: Smh @ people who fault weed for their own, unrelated laziness But cannabis does alter dopamine levels which directly correlates to a decrease in motivation. So do a lot of other things, but it would be stupid to deny that it doesn't have any effect on motivation in frequent users. Duh, but there are still many smokers that have no issue with motivation (i think they're called industrious stoners? Functional stoners?). If a person is so effected by cannabis, then that would be their own case. It goes without saying that different people have different reactions with different substances. It's still my personal conviction that the issue lies within the individual, regardless of drug use. They'll be lazy independent of how much or little they smoke. Weed certainly doesnt help such a disposition, but it certainly aint the root of the problem Obviously people can be functional users, but that doesn't change the fact that cannabis artificially alters dopamine levels which affects how much dopamine your body naturally produces over time. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide DavieAddison's signature Hide all signatures Spotify | Apple Music | Bandcamp | Soundcloud Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92920-what-if-i-told-you/page/19/#findComment-2565606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sally Vingoe Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 On 7/26/2017 at 5:43 PM, caze said: On 7/26/2017 at 5:28 PM, Sally Vingoe said: note the nature of the studies - in vitro/ model animals not saying that cannabinoids may not have some benefit, and they might even be great adjuncts to traditional treatments - but meanwhile, in the real world, with the iterative development of conventional chemotherapy treatments; http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/leukemia-childhood-survival-1.4066589 yep, having a positive result in a test tube is no big deal really, there are numerous substances that will kill a cancer cell like that, getting it to work in an actual patient is a whole other thing. and results with rodents rarely actually translate into humans, especially when it comes to cancer. there's been no large scale studies at all showing positive results from treating cancer with cannabinoids. there is lots of good research showing it works with preventing nausea, relief from chronic pain and as a multiple sclerosis treatment, but that's about it. there was a big meta study that came out this year and that's the conclusion they came to. https://www.nap.edu/read/24625/chapter/2 yeah in summary if you have cancer, go see a doctor don't take the advice of some guy who isn't aware that the skull has, and has always had, various foramen though which nerves and blood vessels pass which provide sensation and blood supply to your face - and instead thinks the fact that he has only just noticed this is some mystical effect rather than his shitty memory, or the fact that he never knew these facts in the first place sorry to bring darkness and hate to the thread, but bullshit is bullshit Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92920-what-if-i-told-you/page/19/#findComment-2565607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diatoms Posted July 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 On 7/26/2017 at 5:43 PM, caze said: yep, having a positive result in a test tube is no big deal really, there are numerous substances that will kill a cancer cell like that, getting it to work in an actual patient is a whole other thing. and results with rodents rarely actually translate into humans, especially when it comes to cancer. there's been no large scale studies at all showing positive results from treating cancer with cannabinoids. I've been doing the Cannabis real life study with positive results for 24 years :) I haven't gone to the doctor for cancer screenings or checkups pertaining to the long term after effects from my treatments I cure myself with Cannabis Love&Light:) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide diatoms's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92920-what-if-i-told-you/page/19/#findComment-2565609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUVITH SITH Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 just to ask do you have cancer Diatoms? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92920-what-if-i-told-you/page/19/#findComment-2565611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomTssPhace Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 On 7/26/2017 at 5:50 PM, DavieAddison said: On 7/26/2017 at 5:27 PM, BoomTssPhace said: On 7/26/2017 at 5:02 PM, DavieAddison said: On 7/26/2017 at 4:03 PM, BoomTssPhace said: Smh @ people who fault weed for their own, unrelated laziness But cannabis does alter dopamine levels which directly correlates to a decrease in motivation. So do a lot of other things, but it would be stupid to deny that it doesn't have any effect on motivation in frequent users. Duh, but there are still many smokers that have no issue with motivation (i think they're called industrious stoners? Functional stoners?). If a person is so effected by cannabis, then that would be their own case. It goes without saying that different people have different reactions with different substances. It's still my personal conviction that the issue lies within the individual, regardless of drug use. They'll be lazy independent of how much or little they smoke. Weed certainly doesnt help such a disposition, but it certainly aint the root of the problem Obviously people can be functional users, but that doesn't change the fact that cannabis artificially alters dopamine levels which affects how much dopamine your body naturally produces over time. Ok Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92920-what-if-i-told-you/page/19/#findComment-2565613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diatoms Posted July 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 On 7/26/2017 at 5:59 PM, JUVITH SITH said: just to ask do you have cancer Diatoms? Haha:) I'm in remission from cancer for 24 years Love&Light:) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide diatoms's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92920-what-if-i-told-you/page/19/#findComment-2565614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Was the cancer in your previous timeline or this one? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Silent Member's signature Hide all signatures Some songs I made with my fingers and electronics. In the process of making some more. Hopefully. Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92920-what-if-i-told-you/page/19/#findComment-2565648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomTssPhace Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Duuude.. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92920-what-if-i-told-you/page/19/#findComment-2565655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diatoms Posted July 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 On 7/26/2017 at 8:06 PM, Gocab said: Was the cancer in your previous timeline or this one? This one My Dad and grandpa as well Love&Light:) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide diatoms's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92920-what-if-i-told-you/page/19/#findComment-2565656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxien Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 I've been drinking Coca Cola and various other sodas for 35 years, never had cancer or heart problems or diabetes (yet! sadlol) so it must be a preventative. Amazing results for Coca ColaTM Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide auxien's signature Hide all signatures / b c / m a s t o d o n / b l o t / Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92920-what-if-i-told-you/page/19/#findComment-2565671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerwolf Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 (edited) edited for good vibes Edited July 26, 2017 by beerwolf Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92920-what-if-i-told-you/page/19/#findComment-2565685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerwolf Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 (edited) One thing I hate about myself is how as I've got older I've become so cynical about the world Like I remember always loving to hear ghost stories late at night. Nowadays I'd just sneer and stick my 2 fingers up at such things. That I guess is some cancer. I try to fight it, try to get back to how I used to be. Most of the time I loose, sometimes I win. I keep thing about your motto of Love & Light, try to fight the dark, sneering, negative demon back into the shadows. Edited July 26, 2017 by beerwolf Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92920-what-if-i-told-you/page/19/#findComment-2565687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricone RC Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 On 7/26/2017 at 5:39 PM, diatoms said: And here's is, as Schlitze would say, a doozie: article by Amanda Froelich http://www.trueactivist.com/there-are-now-100-scientific-studies-proving-cannabis-cures-cancer/ Following are 100 studies proving cannabis to be an all-natural cancer killer: Cannabis kills tumor cells lol Love&Light:) They show that cannabinoids and other substances derived from cannabis might perhaps work as part of cancer treatments. That doesn't mean that gettin' blazed will do bugger all. Paclitaxel is used frequently in chemo but this doesn't mean that you should eat yew leaves (note: don't try this) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92920-what-if-i-told-you/page/19/#findComment-2565960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diatoms Posted August 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 Love&Light:) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide diatoms's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92920-what-if-i-told-you/page/19/#findComment-2567319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvatorin Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 Why do stoners refuse to believe that weed makes some people feel like shit. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Salvatorin's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92920-what-if-i-told-you/page/19/#findComment-2567323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
peace 7 Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 On 8/2/2017 at 12:11 PM, Salvatorin said: Why do stoners refuse to believe that weed makes some people feel like shit. Nah- I think any at least semi-intelligent stoner realizes that ze ganj is not for everyone. Actually, where are the stoners who refuse to believe that it makes some people feel like shit? Non-weed person: "I don't feel good on weed..." Stoner: "YES YOU DO!!! YOU LIAR!!!!! STOP LYING!" Non-weed person: "I feel like shit when I smoke it..." Stoner: "I refuse to believe you. I will never believe you. Even though I've had mad green outs and wished for sobriety whilst rolling around on the floor from being too high at least 20 times, I refuse to believe that you have felt similar. You love it." What? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide peace 7's signature Hide all signatures ▰ SC-nu ▰ nothinggg.com ▰ SC-old ▰ YT ▰ @peepeeland On 4/22/2014 at 8:07 AM, LimpyLoo said: All your upright-bass variation of patanga shitango are belong to galangwa malango jilankwatu fatangu. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92920-what-if-i-told-you/page/19/#findComment-2567327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diatoms Posted August 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 Only Use Cannabis as a Medicine if you Feel that you should If Cannabis makes you feel worse? Your cannabinoid system is running perfectly, you don't need it DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH The articles above, from 100's of scientists, state apoptosis in cancer cells Take the time to read through them That's how I stay Alive :) Other things I do to stay in remission from cancer: Drink water from a spring Eat Organic food No Artificial anything Lots of Coconut Oil Shelled Hemp Seeds 1 teaspoon of food grade Diatomaceous Earth every couple of days Love&Light:) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide diatoms's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92920-what-if-i-told-you/page/19/#findComment-2567333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvatorin Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 On 8/2/2017 at 12:24 PM, peace 7 said: On 8/2/2017 at 12:11 PM, Salvatorin said: Why do stoners refuse to believe that weed makes some people feel like shit. Nah- I think any at least semi-intelligent stoner realizes that ze ganj is not for everyone. The key word here is semi-intelligent. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Salvatorin's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92920-what-if-i-told-you/page/19/#findComment-2567337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diatoms Posted August 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 LOVE to you Salvatorin!!! :) Love&Light:) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide diatoms's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92920-what-if-i-told-you/page/19/#findComment-2567339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caze Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 On 8/2/2017 at 12:46 PM, diatoms said: Only Use Cannabis as a Medicine if you Feel that you should If Cannabis makes you feel worse? Your cannabinoid system is running perfectly, you don't need it DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH The articles above, from 100's of scientists, state apoptosis in cancer cells Take the time to read through them That's how I stay Alive :) Other things I do to stay in remission from cancer: Drink water from a spring Eat Organic food No Artificial anything Lots of Coconut Oil Shelled Hemp Seeds 1 teaspoon of food grade Diatomaceous Earth every couple of days Love&Light:) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92920-what-if-i-told-you/page/19/#findComment-2567346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diatoms Posted August 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 The Wizard of Oz Why does Scarecrow have a gun now? Love&Light:) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide diatoms's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92920-what-if-i-told-you/page/19/#findComment-2567347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KovalainenFanBoy Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 to fuckin kill the witch duh Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide KovalainenFanBoy's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92920-what-if-i-told-you/page/19/#findComment-2567349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sally Vingoe Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 Diatoms, I think you should bottle an elixir of life giving, cancer curing potency, with this picture on the label SCARECROW.JPG and ride around the countryside with a wagon, selling it to yokels Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92920-what-if-i-told-you/page/19/#findComment-2567357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diatoms Posted August 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 On 8/2/2017 at 2:04 PM, caze said: On 8/2/2017 at 12:46 PM, diatoms said: Only Use Cannabis as a Medicine if you Feel that you should If Cannabis makes you feel worse? Your cannabinoid system is running perfectly, you don't need it DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH The articles above, from 100's of scientists, state apoptosis in cancer cells Take the time to read through them That's how I stay Alive :) Other things I do to stay in remission from cancer: Drink water from a spring Eat Organic food No Artificial anything Lots of Coconut Oil Shelled Hemp Seeds 1 teaspoon of food grade Diatomaceous Earth every couple of days Love&Light:) Jean-Luc, I forgot to add that I only listen and Dance to the over 800 songs by RDJ to keep me in remission from cancer. Positive Energy for the Soul :) Pitcard, facepalm away :) Thanks RDJ!!! Love&Light:) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide diatoms's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92920-what-if-i-told-you/page/19/#findComment-2567630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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