Zephyr_Nova Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 Often when I'm checking out music from past eras, I often come across bits that remind me a lot of specific parts from newer tracks. Sometimes the similarity is close enough that I believe the older track likely influenced the newer one, especially it's from an artist the newer one would be into. This happens often enough that I thought it would be worth making a thread to document it. Should be a fun exercise. Here's an example I just stumbled upon to start things off: The riff from Nirvana - Come as You Are I think was likely influenced by Killing Joke - Eighties. It's almost the exact same progression (tuned one half step up) and even uses a similar chorus effect on the guitar. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1U1Ue_5kq8 And the Nirvana track for anyone unfamiliar: Reveal hidden contents https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4cPaGRQdJc This sort of thing is so common, it's always surprising to me when someone sues for plagiarism and actually wins (in music)... especially when it's just riff, or a groove (like in that Marvin Gaye vs. Robin Thicke thing -ridiculous!) Every other song I hear on the radio could be put on trial really. Most music just isn't that original, and that's okay. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Zephyr_Nova's signature Hide all signatures http://zephyrnova.bandcamp.com/releases My noise: http://cthulhudetonator.bandcamp.com My band: http://theskylitup.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94597-post-songs-that-resemblelikely-influenced-other-songs/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candiru Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wACCgCCjRc Radiohead had to pay this band because it sounded too much like Creep, but I think that's bullshit. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94597-post-songs-that-resemblelikely-influenced-other-songs/#findComment-2603303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr_Nova Posted January 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) On 1/22/2018 at 6:33 AM, Zephyr_Nova said: Often when I'm checking out music from past eras, I often come across... Goddamnit that redundant second "often" is going to kill me every time i open this thread. Can a mod please edit it out? On 1/22/2018 at 6:39 AM, Candiru said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wACCgCCjRc Radiohead had to pay this band because it sounded too much like Creep, but I think that's bullshit. Hmmm, the double whammy of the chord progression along with the melody in the bridge section of Creep makes it a pretty legit case. But isn't Radiohead suing Lana Del Ray for ripping off Creep? There are some obvious borrowed ideas there too, but it's pretty ironic... and I think it should again be the Hollies taking her to court. Edited January 22, 2018 by Zephyr_Nova Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Zephyr_Nova's signature Hide all signatures http://zephyrnova.bandcamp.com/releases My noise: http://cthulhudetonator.bandcamp.com My band: http://theskylitup.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94597-post-songs-that-resemblelikely-influenced-other-songs/#findComment-2603305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcE6Qh6MvPE slowed down equals https://vimeo.com/172217952 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=590BYwVuC_E (skip to 2 minutes in) plus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxt1MdVWWZ8 equals https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijurnaMqLxg Edited January 22, 2018 by zaphod Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94597-post-songs-that-resemblelikely-influenced-other-songs/#findComment-2603311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr_Nova Posted January 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 Ooh I'm liking the song equation theories. That's taking it to another level. So according to Kerrang magazine, Killing Joke did file a lawsuit against Nirvana for copying that riff for Come as you Are, but dropped the case after Cobain's death. Grohl later played drums on one of their albums. Interesting! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Zephyr_Nova's signature Hide all signatures http://zephyrnova.bandcamp.com/releases My noise: http://cthulhudetonator.bandcamp.com My band: http://theskylitup.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94597-post-songs-that-resemblelikely-influenced-other-songs/#findComment-2603313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr lopez Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 I always felt Quincy Jones really liked Everybody Wants To Rule The World and then employed (stole) that 12/8 shuffle feel with that massive bass for The Way You Make Me Feel two or three years later. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide dr lopez's signature Hide all signatures On 11/24/2015 at 12:29 PM, Salvatorin said: I feel there is a baobab tree growing out of my head, its leaves stretch up to the heavens Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94597-post-songs-that-resemblelikely-influenced-other-songs/#findComment-2603314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmGMzyajA2U plus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T1c7GkzRQQ equals https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-fA-gBCkj0 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94597-post-songs-that-resemblelikely-influenced-other-songs/#findComment-2603316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 some more https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNq9gmY_Oz4 ripped off https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUAYeN3Rp2E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilKcXIFi-Rc ripped off https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr9Cn3yFnnQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwlPAXouY8A ripped off https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXQUu5Dti4g ripped off https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd8AVbwB_6E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmeag1rwQgo sounds a lot like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9VtfyqgiFE Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94597-post-songs-that-resemblelikely-influenced-other-songs/#findComment-2603318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr_Nova Posted January 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 On 1/22/2018 at 8:20 AM, zaphod said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmGMzyajA2U plus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T1c7GkzRQQ equals https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-fA-gBCkj0 Haha totally. But also, that bass/synthline + beat from Talking in Your Sleep shifted around slightly = the main loop from MC Hammer's You Can't Touch this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo This is fun. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Zephyr_Nova's signature Hide all signatures http://zephyrnova.bandcamp.com/releases My noise: http://cthulhudetonator.bandcamp.com My band: http://theskylitup.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94597-post-songs-that-resemblelikely-influenced-other-songs/#findComment-2603319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr_Nova Posted January 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) I made that same Chicago/Green Day connection just last week. My friend's brass band's covering that Chicago song, and when he showed it to me I was like "are you guys covering that Green Day song?" Which was exactly how his GF responded when he showed her. There are a lot of Beck songs we could do this with. i can't remember them all at the moment, but there's a ton. He's king of refurbishing old classics. Edited January 22, 2018 by Zephyr_Nova Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Zephyr_Nova's signature Hide all signatures http://zephyrnova.bandcamp.com/releases My noise: http://cthulhudetonator.bandcamp.com My band: http://theskylitup.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94597-post-songs-that-resemblelikely-influenced-other-songs/#findComment-2603320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManjuShri Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) On 1/22/2018 at 8:32 AM, Zephyr_Nova said: But also, that bass/synthline + beat from Talking in Your Sleep shifted around slightly = the main loop from MC Hammer's You Can't Touch this. This is fun. Talking in Your Sleep track was two years later than Superfreak. Edited January 22, 2018 by ManjuShri Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ManjuShri's signature Hide all signatures འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔ ཨོཾ་ཧ་ནུ་པྷ་ཤ་བྷ་ར་ཧེ་ཡེ་སྭཱ་ཧཱ།། ཨཱོཾ་མ་ཏྲི་མུ་ཡེ་སལེ་འདུ།། Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94597-post-songs-that-resemblelikely-influenced-other-songs/#findComment-2603321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr_Nova Posted January 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 On 1/22/2018 at 8:39 AM, ManjuShri said: On 1/22/2018 at 8:32 AM, Zephyr_Nova said: But also, that bass/synthline + beat from Talking in Your Sleep shifted around slightly = the main loop from MC Hammer's You Can't Touch this. This is fun. Talking in Your Sleep track was two years later than Superfreak. Oh yeah, of course! I was at a restaurant two nights ago and it played too. Totally forgot about that. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Zephyr_Nova's signature Hide all signatures http://zephyrnova.bandcamp.com/releases My noise: http://cthulhudetonator.bandcamp.com My band: http://theskylitup.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94597-post-songs-that-resemblelikely-influenced-other-songs/#findComment-2603347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KovalainenFanBoy Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide KovalainenFanBoy's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94597-post-songs-that-resemblelikely-influenced-other-songs/#findComment-2603349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr lopez Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 did we do this one yet Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide dr lopez's signature Hide all signatures On 11/24/2015 at 12:29 PM, Salvatorin said: I feel there is a baobab tree growing out of my head, its leaves stretch up to the heavens Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94597-post-songs-that-resemblelikely-influenced-other-songs/#findComment-2603351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr lopez Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) fragments of time is just a completely incompetent steely dan rip Edited January 22, 2018 by dr lopez Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide dr lopez's signature Hide all signatures On 11/24/2015 at 12:29 PM, Salvatorin said: I feel there is a baobab tree growing out of my head, its leaves stretch up to the heavens Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94597-post-songs-that-resemblelikely-influenced-other-songs/#findComment-2603353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetSquirrely Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) this one's bugged me forever Edited January 22, 2018 by GetSquirrely Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94597-post-songs-that-resemblelikely-influenced-other-songs/#findComment-2603427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghsotword Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 1992: 1984: Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94597-post-songs-that-resemblelikely-influenced-other-songs/#findComment-2603443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 On 1/22/2018 at 12:57 PM, span said: I have been laughing for 5 mins straight at this. Thank you. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide oscillik's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94597-post-songs-that-resemblelikely-influenced-other-songs/#findComment-2603446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr_Nova Posted January 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 On 1/22/2018 at 8:54 PM, ghsotword said: 1992: 1984: Damn. Damn at that Fahbulb one too. And lol at Merzmarbles. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Zephyr_Nova's signature Hide all signatures http://zephyrnova.bandcamp.com/releases My noise: http://cthulhudetonator.bandcamp.com My band: http://theskylitup.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94597-post-songs-that-resemblelikely-influenced-other-songs/#findComment-2603451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 Check this out. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide joshuatxuk's signature Hide all signatures Tape Escape! Aural Canyon Wood Between Worlds Tapes [joshuatxuk-is-dead] Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94597-post-songs-that-resemblelikely-influenced-other-songs/#findComment-2603457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
manmower Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94597-post-songs-that-resemblelikely-influenced-other-songs/#findComment-2603465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 On 1/22/2018 at 8:05 AM, Zephyr_Nova said: Ooh I'm liking the song equation theories. That's taking it to another level. So according to Kerrang magazine, Killing Joke did file a lawsuit against Nirvana for copying that riff for Come as you Are, but dropped the case after Cobain's death. Grohl later played drums on one of their albums. Interesting! I don't think Killing Joke ever filed a lawsuit. I believe they discussed the idea but decided against it. They've done a bunch of collab stuff since. Also there's a whole subreddit dedicated to nirvana being influenced by songs. Some are legit, some not so much. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94597-post-songs-that-resemblelikely-influenced-other-songs/#findComment-2603506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi6gC-xe0K8 https://vimeo.com/2817941 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94597-post-songs-that-resemblelikely-influenced-other-songs/#findComment-2603519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eryngi Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 couple videogame ones.. Paranoid Android and this track from King's Field 4: Blade Runner end theme and this music from Judge Dredd for C64! .. well maybe.. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94597-post-songs-that-resemblelikely-influenced-other-songs/#findComment-2603526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goiter Sanchez Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 = Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Goiter Sanchez's signature Hide all signatures Soundcloud - http://soundcloud.com/swegunoFacebook - http://www.facebook.com/sweguno Mixcloud - https://www.mixcloud.com/Sweguno/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94597-post-songs-that-resemblelikely-influenced-other-songs/#findComment-2603540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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