2020 US Election

  On 8/3/2024 at 9:36 PM, cern said:

Yes I posted it because are those people for real? I almost thought it was all staged.. 

"I vote for Trump cus I don't know who Kamala Harris is" or "I vote for Kamala Harris because she is a good dancer" etc.. 

Im curious about how many % of the voters in USA is in that Smart Folder category. 

"trump's a business man.. we need someone to run the country like a business" is very common plus all the racism and stupidity and "strong man gets it done". 

  On 8/3/2024 at 10:30 PM, ignatius said:

"trump's a business man.. we need someone to run the country like a business" is very common 

he failed at business until the apprentice. he has only been successful as a reality show host and running for president. he was a rich kid given hundreds of millions of dollars and he couldn't make a casino profitable. he ended up money laundering with the russian mob. he enjoyed trying to engineer his public perception in stupid ways like feeding stories to tabloids and magazines of his 80s-minded conman deception character, thinking he was clever by just engineering perception rather than actually being successful. the character developed for The Apprentice was developed by show producers, based on the artificial business man character he pushed through tabloids. it was this reality show character that ran for president. then came the 3rd iteration of the character. in the new context as president, we saw a further evolution of fictional trump. compromised by a nefarious foreign power, we saw evil trump, sabatoging allies, spreading plague, fomenting civil war, and trying to topple the government, all under the guise of his preposterous fake persona. we saw the birth of a true evil clown, quite a dark and demented character.

  On 8/4/2024 at 5:12 PM, may be rude said:

he failed at business

yeah.. we know. everyone knows.. except for his idiot followers. he is terrible at running companies and all of them failed. he's also a fraudster. but his followers still say "he's a business man and can fix things by running the country like a business" and that's not been an uncommon statement whenever there's a candidate who comes from the business world. 

  On 8/4/2024 at 7:10 PM, ignatius said:

yeah.. we know. everyone knows.. except for his idiot followers. he is terrible at running companies and all of them failed. he's also a fraudster. but his followers still say "he's a business man and can fix things by running the country like a business" and that's not been an uncommon statement whenever there's a candidate who comes from the business world. 

He bankrupted a casino in Atlantic City, that’s like setting an ATM machine on fire.  

  On 8/3/2024 at 9:41 PM, xox said:

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I was listening to a podcast episode about democracy and they mentioned this quote. They also mentioned another one by him that he included in a speech: "it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time".

The same episode also indicated this other quote, by John Adams in 1814, showing his not so high opinion on power in the hands of the people: "Democracy has never been and never can be so durable as Aristocracy or Monarchy. But while it lasts it is more bloody than either."

the rest of that quote includes "Remember, democracy never lasts long"

250 years later...

adams was a cunt

definitely a valid and interesting point he had, how democracies die by suicide. we're seeing that here in the states. 

just saying, he was a guy talking shit just like some of the smartest people around today occasionally posting bad takes. and that's from a letter. seems like a bit of a rant to make a point. and he was known to be an opinionated cunt.  

the founders were just dudes. they did a good job but the country has been renewed several times by different generations. their work should be appreciated without exalting them too much. what they left was effective because of its functionality as a system of self-government that can transform itself and correct itself. 

democracy seems like the appropriate approach to the inevitability that is government, because government is by nature a system through which people maintain their societies. it's difficult for me to conceive of a practical approach separate from democracy.

oh by the way trump has started saying he will end elections https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/27/trump-speech-no-need-to-vote-future

Michaelah bodied kamala the way most of today’s feeble democrat supporters wished the virgin sniper had done Trump. 
 

(which is also why he keeps talking about hannibal lecter)

the live streamer gifted him a tesla cyber truck with a picture of his assassination attempt grafted onto it

I read some about the downturn in the market, and I have not seen anyone make the argument that it was caused by illegal immigration. Read that the main catalyst was the Japan financial system. They had 0% interest rates and this caused a lot of financiers worldwide to take out loans from Japan's market and then reinvest those funds in the US market (but they raised rates last week which caused a disruption), and also that some of those companies that make technology chips for 'AI' products (companies like Nvidia) were overvalued, in addition to people being a little on edge about the potential for a wider conflict in mideast extending from Gaza.

Will someone please think about the markets! (pls)

  On 8/6/2024 at 2:30 AM, decibal cooper said:

I read some about the downturn in the market, and I have not seen anyone make the argument that it was caused by illegal immigration. Read that the main catalyst was the Japan financial system. They had 0% interest rates and this caused a lot of financiers worldwide to take out loans from Japan's market and then reinvest those funds in the US market (but they raised rates last week which caused a disruption), and also that some of those companies that make technology chips for 'AI' products (companies like Nvidia) were overvalued, in addition to people being a little on edge about the potential for a wider conflict in mideast extending from Gaza.

buuuuuuuuuuuut , what about the Mexicans?

  On 8/6/2024 at 6:22 AM, J3FF3R00 said:

buuuuuuuuuuuut , what about the Mexicans?

they've invaded wallstreet, obviously. only, they're mexicans that practice sharia law. they're making fentanyl in their spare time and will be building tent cities in every backyard in america. 

  On 8/6/2024 at 2:30 AM, decibal cooper said:

the live streamer gifted him a tesla cyber truck with a picture of his assassination attempt grafted onto it

Ok, so let's say Kamala Harris is elected president. How many minutes after the announcement will people be shooting up the streets?
I hope she gets elected (again not that I should even care since I don't live in the US), but I'm worried about the repercussions 

  On 8/6/2024 at 7:05 AM, Squee said:

Ok, so let's say Kamala Harris is elected president. How many minutes after the announcement will people be shooting up the streets?
I hope she gets elected (again not that I should even care since I don't live in the US), but I'm worried about the repercussions 

My guess is that it would be similar to 2020.  They'd all ride the slow-motion "big steal" rollercoaster saying it was stolen, fabricating "fraud" incidents and filing a bunch of court cases that go nowhere.  They'd be threatening judges, elected officials, etc., but I don't see outright violence straight away.  Let's be honest, most of his die-hards are the crazy, lazy, troglodyte type.

  On 8/6/2024 at 12:48 PM, EdamAnchorman said:

My guess is that it would be similar to 2020.  They'd all ride the slow-motion "big steal" rollercoaster saying it was stolen, fabricating "fraud" incidents and filing a bunch of court cases that go nowhere.  They'd be threatening judges, elected officials, etc., but I don't see outright violence straight away.  Let's be honest, most of his die-hards are the crazy, lazy, troglodyte type.

You're probably right, but I was thinking more like people are out celebrating and a couple of people decide to point their totally legal assault rifles at this group of happy people.

Anyway, there's no reason to expect the worst, right? RIGHT!?

  On 8/6/2024 at 7:05 AM, Squee said:

Ok, so let's say Kamala Harris is elected president. How many minutes after the announcement will people be shooting up the streets?
I hope she gets elected (again not that I should even care since I don't live in the US), but I'm worried about the repercussions 

(basically what Edam said....)

there'd possibly be small bits of shit here or there but unlikely anything too serious. any violence is serious course, but actual Trumpers attacking people on the left (physically) has been rare despite much of their bluster, at least directly (think 'person in MAGA hat beats up supporter at a Harris rally'). it would raise tensions for some racists/misogynists/assholes possibly tho (i imagine in 2026 seeing headlines about 'violence against women of color statistically on the rise in 2025' headlines, that sort of thing).

the good thing would be that Trump's political career would almost certainly be over if he loses decidedly. the Rs will drum up some new jerk/s of course, but Trump's stranglehold on the Rs over the last ~10 years has been pretty wild.

Lol not a single republican/trump supporter on watmm?!  

Kamala chooses Walz as VP

  On 8/6/2024 at 3:14 PM, decibal cooper said:

Kamala chooses Walz as VP

Dang, I was hoping for an astronaut VP.

huh, well... ok

  On 8/6/2024 at 3:14 PM, decibal cooper said:

Kamala chooses Walz as VP

She chose a token white man with gray hair!

O lordy. I feel racist for typing this. ;D

The only issue I am concerned about is abolishing all zoos and freeing the animals. Not gonna lie, I am incredibly frustrated that no candidate has even mentioned this issue let alone proposed the necessary policy changes for making it happen. Democracy my ass! I will not vote in this election!!

  On 8/6/2024 at 3:14 PM, decibal cooper said:

Kamala chooses Walz as VP

i'm almost willing to say it's game over. sharpiro would've been the "colorful" choice, but a progressive pick with (no current baggage) is the nightmare scenario for the republicans.