Hong Kong protests

Yeah dude does Tsingtao do a kölsch?

  On 11/1/2019 at 12:42 AM, Nebraska said:

https://i.imgur.com/Jbucfr5.mp4

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did that guy just want to cross the street? looked like he was on his way home from work or something. 

  On 11/1/2019 at 12:57 AM, ignatius said:

did that guy just want to cross the street? looked like he was on his way home from work or something. 

shit's really escalating. recent weeks full of shootings, arresting volunteer first aid people, storming the university.. 

https://globalnews.ca/news/6179751/hong-kong-protests-arrow/

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-18/hong-kong-police-move-in-on-university-barricade/11713002

https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/component/k2/1492855-20191118.htm

More and more reminds on Tiananmen

not related but don't want to make a whole new thread for it.  chilean protests

https://crimethinc.com/2019/10/24/on-the-front-lines-in-chile-accounts-from-the-uprising

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Chilean_protests

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The 2019 Chilean protests are ongoing civil protests throughout Chile in response to a raise in the Santiago Metro's subway fare, the increased cost of living, privatisation and inequality prevalent in the country.

The protests began in Chile's capital, Santiago, as a coordinated fare evasion campaign by secondary school students which led to spontaneous takeovers of the city's main train stations and open confrontations with the Chilean Police. On 18 October, the situation escalated as organized bands of protesters rose in rebellion across the city, seizing many stations of the Santiago Metro network (part of Red) and disabling them with extensive infrastructure damage, ultimately disabling the network in its entirety. In total, 81 stations have been damaged, with 17 burned down. On the same day, President of Chile Sebastián Piñera announced a state of emergency, authorizing the deployment of Chilean Army forces across the main regions to enforce order and prevent the destruction of public property, and invoked before the courts the Ley de Seguridad del Estado ("State Security Law") against dozens of detainees. A curfew was declared on 19 October in the Greater Santiago area.

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looks like police have rounded many up in HK Poly U and are holdnig it under seige

  On 11/18/2019 at 8:51 AM, Zeffolia said:

not related but don't want to make a whole new thread for it.  chilean protests

not to mention the stuff going on in bolivia... here's hoping that things don't rlly go to shit worldwide too soon

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HSBC Holdings Plc pointed to routine regulatory requirements to ensure client money is used for stated purposes after a report Monday that the firm is shutting a corporate account that helped fund protest-related activities in Hong Kong -- a politically sensitive issue.

The bank took action after finding the account was being used inconsistently with its original paperwork, the Hong Kong Economic Journal said. The firm informed the client last month that it will close the account after a 30-day notice period that ends this week, according to the report, which didn’t identify who opened it. 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-11-18/hsbc-cites-regulations-as-protest-linked-account-reportedly-shut

Godspeed HK

#chinazi

  On 11/19/2019 at 12:10 AM, darreichungsform said:

I remember that there was a demonstration against police violence in Honkong here in Germany that many Chinese people who live here took part in and there were people seemingly working for the Chinese government who filmed the protesters, ID'ed them and threatened them (most of them have family in China that can be used as a leverage). Seems the long arm of the regime extends on German soil as well and restricts democracy and freedom of speech.

Another reason to ditch E cars and invest in hydrogen fuel cell cars instead, nobody wants to be dependent on Chinese rare earths

you mean the heavy metals that are used to make the batteries?  a lot of that comes from canada and australia... 

https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2017/aug/24/nickel-mining-hidden-environmental-cost-electric-cars-batteries

Let's just mine asteroids and be legends. 

  On 11/19/2019 at 1:35 AM, ignatius said:

heavy metals

no. rare earth metals are stuff on the bottom bit of the periodic table, ytterbium, terbium and others (I don't know about electric cars but I know they are integral to phones and stuff).. iirc china has kinda of a monopoly on those can't be arsed to look for a source though

  On 11/18/2019 at 8:51 AM, Zeffolia said:

not related but don't want to make a whole new thread for it.  chilean protests

https://crimethinc.com/2019/10/24/on-the-front-lines-in-chile-accounts-from-the-uprising

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Chilean_protests

There are deadly protests going on in Ecuador, Iraq and Bolivia as well. I don't want to downplay HK but these protests are buried in terms of awareness and concern stateside in comparison. Not to mention China's oppression of Uyghurs, who are literally being monitored in Orwellian ways and are being sent to concentration camps for re-education. https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/chinas-repression-uighurs-xinjiang

8 killed in the anti-government policy protests in Ecuador - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Ecuadorian_protests

Over 100 killed in Iraq anti-corruption demonstrations - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018–19_Iraqi_protests

Bolivia's president Morales has been ousted in a coup. It is being masqueraded as a reaction to alleged electoral fraud despite his administration following court rulings, cooperating with proposed but now scrapped re-elections, and his party being a ruling party with 2/3 majority.  An opposition leader with overt ties to right-wing anti-indigenous religious zealots and wealthy elites has been appointed interim president, despite not being a candidate and coming from a party with only 4% of the Bolivian parliament. 23 have been killed by police and military forces, which have been declared legally exempt from any prosecution

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Bolivian_protests

iran is also suppressing unrest. they cut internet to 96% of the country yesterday. 

We both love democracy. We join in this brotest and keep it  

So question:

Is Hong Kong's autonomy officially over?
I read somewhere that the concept of “One Country, Two Systems” is in effect.
However obviously, it seems, Hong Kong is just fully absorbed into the PRC?
Are Hong Kong people now targetted by the PRC to control / imprison / punish / re-educate / PRC-fy?

I find it sad how the world just watches passively letting all this happen.
Just a few words here and there from world-leaders and human-rights-activists in the media, and that's it, it's over.
I guess that's all they can do. (or are willing to do)
Seems like the entire world is scared to death of PRC.
I guess doing nothing keeps the peace and prosperity between the nations at large. That must be the reasoning.

However I can't imagine that the people of Hong Kong won't suffer under this new regime.
Are they a sort of sacrifice we are all just willing to make? Just shrug and look the other way?

Or am I overreacting? Is nothing actually going to change for the worse for the people of Hong Kong? (I fear it will)
 

  On 9/18/2020 at 12:45 PM, MaartenVC said:

However obviously, it seems, Hong Kong is just fully absorbed into the PRC?

The freedom of speech seems to be now curtailed in HK, but it's nowhere near to be fully absorbed to mainland China. I mean they are like completely different realities still. The censorship in mainland China isn't just a few school books banned or an occasionally arrested activist, it's more like every-fucking-thing is under a tight control by the CCP. Every newspaper, TV channel, social media site, everything is controlled by the government and all foreign social medias are banned. Even the ban on VPNs seems to be pretty effective now. Then there are the police and military, etc.

But yes, the situation is getting worse in HK, so that's worrisome and it may eventually lead HK to be absorbed to the rest of China.